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nigger im not reading that fucking thesis
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OMG all those words. This is way too much thinking about this. This is just a fucking dude who isn't a troon, isn't trans, doesn't have gender dysphoria, he's literally just fucking with people with this absolute bullshit.On a top level, to SJWs gender is how you feel you are inside.
OMG all those words. This is way too much thinking about this. This is just a fucking dude who isn't a troon, isn't trans, doesn't have gender dysphoria, he's literally just fucking with people with this absolute bullshit.
Goddamn this was painful to read. You created something more meandering and insufferable than Dave’s delusional rants. Go to the Deep Thoughts section and post your essay there instead of clogging this thread up.I will honestly try to break this down because their definitions are purposely confusing and convoluted to try to bullshit their way into what they want. I'm also writing this with little sleep so please excuse some spelling errors and feel free to ask questions. So strap in, and I'll spoil interesting but not really relevant parts.
On a top level, to SJWs gender is how you feel you are inside. It's about feeling masculine, feminine, neither, or both. To them, gender has nothing to do with sex. You can imagine gender to be a type of personality or "soul", and the different types of gender to be different colors that souls can have. For this analogy let's say the masculine personality type is blue and feminine personality type is pink. Troons equate feeling masculine to men and feminine to women, so therefore EVERYONE who is a man or women must have a blue or pink soul respectively, and if you happened to be a man with a pink soul or a woman with a blue soul, you are trans. This is where the "born in the wrong body" idea comes from, but as of late they have been trying to push that to wrongthink.
To SJWs, you have a pink soul, a feminine gender, if and only if you're a woman. "But wait!" you say, "Not all women have feminine personality. Doesn't this assume that all women act feminine and have tongue-in-cheek pink souls, and those women who dont are actually men?" Yes, which is why feminism directly contradicts transgender ideology. Feminism tries to break gender roles and says that women are more multifaceted than the gender stereotypes that are put on us, while transgender ideology says that anyone who acts along female gender stereotypes is a woman. Sometimes, in the case of Danny here, you don't even have to act like a woman, you can just say you are. This is allowed because of feminism's push to say that a woman (human female) shouldn't have to act like a woman (gendered stereotype) to be considered as a woman (human female). Well troons took this and flipped it on its head to say "I can say I'm a woman without putting in the work to look and act like one so thus I don't have to pass, but don't you dare call me a man". The only way to refute this statement is to call the troon a man, but as it is a faux pas to do so, troons get away with it.
This line of thinking has resulted in the recent explosion of teen girls calling themselves nonbinary or transmen: they're told a woman is dumb, ditsy, attractive, likes to be sexualized, is treated as lesser compared to her peers, etc and they don't like that (naturally, as it's rather demeaning), so they hit the eject button out of womanhood and call themselves not a woman. Problem is that everyone else who isn't in the cult (most of the world) don't see that and still treat them as women. It's an attempt to escape the patriarchy, and I don't blame them at all. Some of them also troon out because their friends did it, for attention/popularity, or plain old autism (seriously).
One of the largest fallacies of this ideology is that it assumes that everyone has a gender. If gender exists where all humans have it and it's impactful to ones personality, then it must be measurable. So far there's no way to use a machine to determine someone's gender, or in other words, what color someone's soul is. You'd think that troons would want to be a way, but they don't, because you can clearly find out who is trans and who isn't and people can no longer grift from calling themselves trans. But there never will be a way, because gender is a fancy name for a personality. So you basically just have a lot of people saying "Huh I think I'm a woman so therefore I am one" and they have no point of reference of what a woman is besides society's stereotypes of a woman and them viewing womanhood from an outsiders perspective. They have no idea what it feels like to be a woman, so how do they think and know they are one?
For functional purposes, we can say there are an infinite number of different personalities to have ever existed on Earth, so therefore there are an infinite number of ways we can arrange those personalities into unique groupings (or gender types). One can try to say "Ah there's two types, masculine and feminine" but someone will get their panties in a bunch and not feel special enough and then make their own label, like transfem asexual lesbian, and then suddenly you have shit like ADHDgender and condigender. There are literally an infinite number of genders, and that's assuming that everyone believes that they have a gender.
I mentioned that they think that gender has nothing to do with sex. This is another one if their fallacies, as they think that gender is completely independent of sex. At face value this statement seems fine, as saying that your sex predetermines your gender/personality is sexist. But when the scope is widened and it's applied to a global sphere it makes no sense because the entire construct of gender has its foundations on the sexual dimorphism of humans. The feminine gender is feminine because that's what women (human female women) were expected to preform. This is the same for the masculine gender, but there's a lot of flexibility with what masculine is. In most cases, it's literally "anything except the few things that's considered feminine in this culture".
In almost all human societies the feminine gender is demure and subservient to men because it was imposed and enforced by men as men are stronger that women and back then in less lawful times you got your way by beating the shit out of and scaring people. Also women have to deal with the vulnerable times of pregnancy, so shes more likely to listen to the ones that can easily kill her and her children for safety. Anyways, women didnt really have a lot of flexibility in the past and still don't have much now, and that's what feminism is pushing for: the freedom of all women to be able to live without restrictions enforced on them because they're a woman. I remember saying to a friend that a man trooning out is just toxic masculinity folded in on itself, because a man has some feminine traits or desires something that is feminine, can't do it as a man because his peers teases him for being a girl, so he just calls himself a girl to be able to express himself instead of challenging what it means to be a man by still doing what he wanted to do and saying he's no less of a man by doing so. By trooning out he reinforces patriarchal definitions of what men and women should be.
I will keep passing this link around because it's just too goddamn good.
Yes, but it also (and very relevantly to MTF troons) says the inverse: you can identify your way out of oppressing people (while simultaneously saying that you don't have to pass or present as your declared gender).Trans theory says that you can identify out of your oppression.
nigger im not reading that fucking thesis
OMG all those words. This is way too much thinking about this. This is just a fucking dude who isn't a troon, isn't trans, doesn't have gender dysphoria, he's literally just fucking with people with this absolute bullshit.
Welcome to Late Nite 1440p, the 1440p you get when you stay up late staring at a screen.Goddamn this was painful to read. You created something more meandering and insufferable than Dave’s delusional rants. Go to the Deep Thoughts section and post your essay there instead of clogging this thread up.
A great number of troons appear to get very 'validated' (read: bar up, as you put it) by being catcalled, sexual harassment, etc. Most of it is, of course, delusional - the number of troons who have stories about men in stores checking them out and how they felt totally demeaned and insulted (while really jerking it) is about ... well, all of them. Unsurprising that these True and Honest Women can't tell that the men looking at them aren't doing so out of barely-concealed lust; perhaps it's the combination of projection of how they treat the people they want to fuck and their autistic face blindness, or perhaps it's just their delusional state. Either way, yes, being 'demeaned' in such a fashion is part of what turns the AGP troons on, so they protest that it happens to them all the time and that men are such pigs while rubbing their girldicks raw at the thought of it.He’d probably bar up if you did that. Much validation.
It's like asking for logic and reason from a religious cult. Well, it IS that.In other words: just enough to establish a paper trail that he's medically transitioning for internet clout, but without having to actually take it long term and medically transition.
On a related note, what even is 'gender' to these goofs? I have never had it adequately explained to me.
These types say it's not your sex organs or chromosomes; they'll also say it's different than biological sex, but also that biological sex is also made up. So, what, then? It can't be conforming to a specific set of gender roles, because Dave is still a loud, aggressive man, behaviorally, and hasn't changed any personality characteristics pre- and post- "transition". It can't be presenting as the desired gender, because he doesn't want to take the hormones or get the surgery; he can't even be arsed to shave his face or wear a wig. All he's doing is crossdressing at this point, and as these types often point out, the very concept of gendered clothing is problematic. They'll say it's just a subjective experience wherein the person 'feels' like a woman internally, but we've already established that "woman" != sex organs, chromosomes, hormones, gender roles, presentation or clothing, so what are they supposedly "feeling" and how are they defining the thing they're "feeling"?
Like, I'm a woman because my XX sex chromosomes encode for various body morphological, hormonal, cognitive and behavioral characteristics, and society groups people who mostly share these characteristics together and labels them "women" and I'm cool with that, just like I'm cool with a small quadruped that wags its tail and barks being called a "dog" or a large metal thing with wheels and an internal combustion engine powered by gasoline a "car". Like, yes, I guess it's a social construct insomuch as we've collectively decided the name of the group and the criteria for inclusion into the group, but "social construct" doesn't mean arbitrary and meaningless; like, by that token, money is also a social construct but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist or has no meaning; you can't go into a store with a handful of pebbles and pay for your groceries with them because, social construct that money may well be, we've all collectively agreed that pebbles aren't money.
TERFs have their own set of issues, but they are absolutely right when they say that troons are trying to define women out of existence. If everything can be a woman, then nothing is.
Can someone who speaks more fluent SJW than me fill me in? What is gender and what is a woman to these people?
Transracialism is inevitable as the flight from white continues. It just requires the right person to come out as black. When it does, Dave will instantly convert. Just give it time.If one can be "born in the wrong body" then why is trans-racialism something that people point and laugh at? We're told that race is a social construct too, so why can't a white person claim to be black and be taken as seriously as a man who claims to be a woman? If they "feel like they are black" then that surely must be enough to validate them.
While there is no shortage of performative friends , the kind who say he looks beautiful in that new dress or likes his tweets, I genuinely don't know who his "real friend" demographic is.RE: Din— If anybody didn’t know, there is an “ignore” button you can press to hide a user’s posts. As a fellow terve I’m embarrassed any of us would waste time arguing with his Reddit bullshit lol. Anybody using a female pronoun for “Danielle” is either taking the piss or so mentally disabled their handler should really be keeping them away from using the internet.
As for Dave’s charges: Can you really get slapped with that many just for having a pot brownie party? What friends does Dave even have that he would “cook” for?
That is nightmare fuel right there.While there is no shortage of performative friends , the kind who say he looks beautiful in that new dress or likes his tweets, I genuinely don't know who his "real friend" demographic is.
He still communicates with past atheist associates, but again, that seems mostly performative. He gets speaking gigs with atheist/skeptic groups (the latter makes me sad. I've seen so called skeptics treating all trans issues as sacred beliefs above debate). In these talks, no matter the topic like trans or BLM, the entire talk is about him and what he deals with. I watched one live a few months back. I would hope the other watchers would notice he never touched on the topic he was supposed to "educate" us on. I was happy to see several people in the Zoom chat at least challenged his claims about supporting marxism (claiming if you support progressive ideals, you MUST be marxist)
Here is a pic with some friends. One a former pod cast buddy, Esther, the other, a blogger name Stepanie Zvan who left Free Thought Blogs to help found The Orbit because FTB wasn't woke/SJW/troon-centric enough.
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Here is from after a podcast.
Soooooo hard to know which one's are women....
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If my post looked screechy or policing, you must have a very stressful life, little missy.I'm not going to roll over and start using pronouns I'm uncomfortable with just because a bunch of screeching autistics on the internet keep trying to pressure me into it, so cope, seethe and dilate, then stop derailing the thread to police other people's speech.
While there is no shortage of performative friends , the kind who say he looks beautiful in that new dress or likes his tweets, I genuinely don't know who his "real friend" demographic is.
He still communicates with past atheist associates, but again, that seems mostly performative. He gets speaking gigs with atheist/skeptic groups (the latter makes me sad. I've seen so called skeptics treating all trans issues as sacred beliefs above debate). In these talks, no matter the topic like trans or BLM, the entire talk is about him and what he deals with. I watched one live a few months back. I would hope the other watchers would notice he never touched on the topic he was supposed to "educate" us on. I was happy to see several people in the Zoom chat at least challenged his claims about supporting marxism (claiming if you support progressive ideals, you MUST be marxist)
Here is a pic with some friends. One a former pod cast buddy, Esther, the other, a blogger name Stepanie Zvan who left Free Thought Blogs to help found The Orbit because FTB wasn't woke/SJW/troon-centric enough.
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Here is from after a podcast.
Soooooo hard to know which one's are women....
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He's a Yaniv in the making. Sooner or later the drugs will fry the wrong neurons and he'll start craving any attention, whether positive or negative.Gibes, Zinnia, and Eden, sure, but Dave here doesn't seem as horny as they are. I think he's more attention whore than fetishist.
Inshallah he too gets a stink ditch installed. The more of these men removed from the DNA pool the betterHe's a Yaniv in the making. Sooner or later the drugs will fry the wrong neurons and he'll start craving any attention, whether positive or negative.
I'm starting to think that anyone who'll publicly profess that these badly covered settees are women is actually mentally ill or subnormal. Dave looks like he's an extra from one flew over the cuckoos nest and what the fuck is that on the right?While there is no shortage of performative friends , the kind who say he looks beautiful in that new dress or likes his tweets, I genuinely don't know who his "real friend" demographic is.
He still communicates with past atheist associates, but again, that seems mostly performative. He gets speaking gigs with atheist/skeptic groups (the latter makes me sad. I've seen so called skeptics treating all trans issues as sacred beliefs above debate). In these talks, no matter the topic like trans or BLM, the entire talk is about him and what he deals with. I watched one live a few months back. I would hope the other watchers would notice he never touched on the topic he was supposed to "educate" us on. I was happy to see several people in the Zoom chat at least challenged his claims about supporting marxism (claiming if you support progressive ideals, you MUST be marxist)
Here is a pic with some friends. One a former pod cast buddy, Esther, the other, a blogger name Stepanie Zvan who left Free Thought Blogs to help found The Orbit because FTB wasn't woke/SJW/troon-centric enough.
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Here is from after a podcast.
Soooooo hard to know which one's are women....
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Holy shit lil nigga, how the fuck have you been around since 2018 and you're still going on about this.If my post looked screechy or policing, you must have a very stressful life, little missy.
This guy is one of the troons least likely to get any surgery. He's not even on estrogen or spiro.Inshallah he too gets a stink ditch installed. The more of these men removed from the DNA pool the better