Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

Take that, and give it saggy tits and lipstick. I can see the modern SJWs seeing them as the new good guys, while a Trumpian-style New Republic would be the bad guys.

They did that in Star Trek Picard, and they might do that to Star Wars one day.

It was a male bothan who was the chief of state at the time of the Yuuzhan vong war and the New republic got its ass kicked. It was Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order that stopped the Vong in the end. (though they will try to retcon this shit as "mar-REY sue's jeduh order" at some point.)

Meanwhile the Vong/Niggers/sandniggers they looove so much don't create anything. They only loot, pillage. and destroy anything they get and are literal animals who only understand violence and dont care about anything else.

Apparently Palpatine at one point had other motivations behind consolidating control of the entire galaxy beyond the petty "sith vs jedi" Jihad and was actually preparing the galaxy for the Vong.

Hence the need for shit like the Death star, Eclipse SSD, SSD's in general, World devastators, Torpedo spheres, and various other superweapons. Using the cover of "fear" and "traitorous jedi" as a ruse so he did not come off as an insane person.
 
It was a male bothan who was the chief of state at the time of the Yuuzhan vong war and the New republic got its ass kicked. It was Luke Skywalker's New Jedi Order that stopped the Vong in the end. (though they will try to retcon this shit as "mar-REY sue's jeduh order" at some point.)
Watch them change that to a human with a blonde mop for a hairdo throwing Vong into camps because he doesn't want to let the Vong into the New Republic. And instead of fighting the Vong, MaRey Sue's Jedi Order will be fighting the feds.

Meanwhile the Vong/Niggers/sandniggers they looove so much don't create anything. They only loot, pillage. and destroy anything they get and are literal animals who only understand violence and dont care about anything else.
To be fair, they do create-they terraform. Which means they utterly change things so that only they are comfy with the surroundings.

Apparently Palpatine at one point had other motivations behind consolidating control of the entire galaxy beyond the petty "sith vs jedi" Jihad and was actually preparing the galaxy for the Vong.
That's one of the many reasons why I was an Imperial fan. The Imps at their full power would have made Vong Soup out of that invading armada.

Hence the need for shit like the Death star, Eclipse SSD, SSD's in general, World devastators, Torpedo spheres, and various other superweapons. Using the cover of "fear" and "traitorous jedi" as a ruse so he did not come off as an insane person.
Exactly. Slap a World Devastator on a Vong Worldship, and not only would it devour the problem quite literally, but it would pop out robot fighters too. Meanwhile, an Executor-class SSD can go on a slogging match with larger Vong ships, while the Eclipse SSD and the Death Star can snipe Vong Worldships with their superlasers.
 
Watch them change that to a human with a blonde mop for a hairdo throwing Vong into camps because he doesn't want to let the Vong into the New Republic. And instead of fighting the Vong, MaRey Sue's Jedi Order will be fighting the feds.


To be fair, they do create-they terraform. Which means they utterly change things so that only they are comfy with the surroundings.


That's one of the many reasons why I was an Imperial fan. The Imps at their full power would have made Vong Soup out of that invading armada.


Exactly. Slap a World Devastator on a Vong Worldship, and not only would it devour the problem quite literally, but it would pop out robot fighters too. Meanwhile, an Executor-class SSD can go on a slogging match with larger Vong ships, while the Eclipse SSD and the Death Star can snipe Vong Worldships with their superlasers.
The Vong do actually worldshape and destroy once functional planets and ecosystems and turn them into a Vong hellscapes to their liking, Their culture is also a survival of the fittest caste system and often comment that even their pets and other species they brought with them from their home galaxy know that.
 
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Pacifism can only exist when stupider better people are there actively protecting them. What have been intentionally memory holed is pacifism is a form of societial parasitism as the current iterations not only refuse to defend themselves or others but also actively interfere with the ability of others to defend themselves and others.

Not going to lump old time Quakers and Mennonites into this as they didn't interfere with others doing what needs to be done and helped wherever they can.
So pacifism works in star wars and to the extent in real life like the Sheep, wolves and Sheepdogs analogy in american sniper.
 
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The Vong do actually worldshape and destroy once functional planets and ecosystems and turn them into a Vong hellscapes to their liking, Their culture is also a survival of the fittest caste system and often comment that even their pets and other species they brought with them from their home galaxy know that.
Basically-they Vongform worlds so that only they can be comfortable there.

Which again, is why you needed a powerful Empire to deal with them. The New Republic failed horribly and the Alliance only won in the end by uniting everyone against the Vong. Imagine if they didn't overthrow the Empire-the Vong War could have been just another war that would have taken a few years like the Clone Wars, instead of them losing the capital to alien vermin and losing 365 trillion people in the war against them.

So pacifism works in star wars and to the extent in real life like the Sheep, wolves and Sheepdogs analogy in american sniper.
To be fair, the Lurmen were straw pacifists whose pacifism was portrayed as idiotic. And for all their goodwill, the New Mandalorians were about as useful as a screen door on a submarine. So even in Star Wars, pacifism doesn't work. Even when the pacifists are good guys, their pacifism inevitably gets them in trouble.
 
Apparently Palpatine at one point had other motivations behind consolidating control of the entire galaxy beyond the petty "sith vs jedi" Jihad and was actually preparing the galaxy for the Vong.

Hence the need for shit like the Death star, Eclipse SSD, SSD's in general, World devastators, Torpedo spheres, and various other superweapons. Using the cover of "fear" and "traitorous jedi" as a ruse so he did not come off as an insane person.
I do wonder if anyone at LusasFilm had been reading Johji Manabe' Caravan Kidd manga during the early to mid 90ies. Cause Caravan Kidd's Empress had been doing exactly that with no ambiguity to it. Only the build up was to whom she was preparing the Empire's defenses against.
 
I do wonder if anyone at LusasFilm had been reading Johji Manabe' Caravan Kidd manga during the early to mid 90ies. Cause Caravan Kidd's Empress had been doing exactly that with no ambiguity to it. Only the build up was to whom she was preparing the Empire's defenses against.
Maybe. Its not too uncommon for Fictional stories to be inspired by and take things from other stories.
 
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Basically, yes. As I've said before, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. Filoni's childish attempts to explain away Order 66 with a brain chip aside, his writing is mostly kid-friendly stuff punctuated with the odd flash of violence, but compared to the Sequel writers and Karen Traviss, he's fresh air.

Still nowhere near James Luceno or Tom Veitch's level, let alone Drew Karpyshyn, but I'll take what I can get.


People forget the fact that he used to get captured more than once in the past like the average Scooby-Doo villain. Both the Jedi Holocron/Children arc and the Undercover Kenobi arc ended with him being hauled away like some bad guy from some typical 90s cartoon show.

But, if he's up against Not!Boss, he might as well be damn near unbeatable. Especially since the Bad Batch got nerfed horribly after Crosshair walked away.


That's the point. He only knows about the parts of the EU that he likes. The rest, he couldn't give less of a shit about. What we do know is that he likes KOTOR and Republic Commando, but the rest, he couldn't care less about.


You're going to be very disappointed by this, but not every fan of something from the EU reads everything about the EU and likes the whole thing. Some people like some parts of it, others like only a few things while dismissing the rest as drivel. Some even barely know a thing about other parts of the EU that they're not fans of.

The Mando-fans for instance will love everything Karen Traviss writes, as well as any piece of EU fiction that centers around non-Jedi defeating the Jedi, or stuff that's critical about the Jedi. But show them a part of the Expanded Universe that portrays the Jedi as being good at their jobs, or worse, a piece of the EU where Force powers are way too much for muggles to handle, and they complain that it's a "Jedi Power Fantasy" that doesn't line up with what the movies do. If you give them the reins to a Star Wars show, they will retcon the more parts of Star Wars where you have OP Jedi and Sith, and they will rewrite the Jedi to be selfish assholes easily taken down by Mandalorians and Bounty Hunters, even though the default characterization of the Jedi are self-sacrificing lemmings, and a Mando or Bounty Hunter who can fight, let alone kill Jedi, is very rare.

I know a good number of KOTOR/SWTOR fans who only like THAT particular part of the Expanded Universe and think the rest is not worth their time, or that the rest of it is a mess. When I talk to SWTOR/KOTOR fans on occasion, and try to talk to them about other parts of the EU, some of them don't even know what I'm talking about, or barely even care.

And even I'm guilty of it. My own version of SW Legends canon has a big, black void in between the end of the Vong Wars and Star Wars Legends. I refuse to see Legacy of the Force as anything but Luke Skywalker having a bad dream before he wakes up and has another session of Force Mind Meld Sex with Mara Jade. As bad as TCW is, it still got the gist of Lucas' moral tint for Star Wars right, as opposed to turning things into a 40K-esque "both sides are assholes" bullshit that was better done in Lucas' Prequels. And I'm not alone in this-most EU fans who have followed the adventures of characters like Jacen Solo and Mara Jade despise LOTF and swore off reading SW novels after that series came out.


Yoda was thrown in Force Unleashed II for the sake of fanservice cameo, and Shaak Ti barely played a role outside of being another Jedi boss for Starkiller to kill. Boba Fett was also thrown in Force Unleashed II for the sake of a cameo, and the comic actually had to expand his role in it. Both the Filoniverse and Force Unleashed followed the formula of "once it's successful, let's cram as much cameos as we can." Mandalorian Season 1 and the Force Unleashed mostly worked with its original characters, then the second season of the Mandalorian as well as the second Force Unleashed game began bringing in more OT character cameos for fanservice. The only difference is, the Filoniverse is succeeding where TFU failed, so they're going to do more cameos left and right to get the normies wet.

And of course, Filoni's doing cameos because that's what the fans want. Sad to say this, but yes, a lot of fans do like it when Ahsoka or Thrawn or some other cameo character is shoved in. Just look at what happened when Cad Bane sauntered on the Bad Batch show. He was supposed to be DEAD, and yet almost none of the fans condemn the choice to retcon those unfinished Boba Fett episodes and bring him back, instead, they're getting wet. They also get wet whenever Rex, Ahsoka, or Thrawn waltzes in on the scene in Rebels or get mentioned in the Mandalorian, so again, outside of Filoni's desire to make his characters into the equals of Han, Luke, and Leia, (or maybe even to make his characters surpass those old heroes) it's pure fanservice to bring those characters in.

Filoni sticking his OCs everywhere is the Star Wars equivalent of anime shows sticking in sexy girls with big anime tits and butts to drawn in more fans. The authors like it, and the fans like it. If you think Filoni putting his OCs in on everything is excessive now, wait until Disney makes a dozen more shows based on such cameos. The Sequels were a bust for them, but based on how normies react to cameos on Dave Filoni shows, they've found their Star Wars gold mine, and they're going to milk it dry.


Lucas is a contrarian. One moment, he gives personal thanks to the guy who wrote Dark Empire and gives it his thumbs-up, the next, he says that ROTJ was the be-all, end-all for the Sith and that Palpatine didn't come back. He originally wrote in favor of the EU, saying that it was a wonderful legacy of the franchise and that his movies were just a tiny glimpse into the SW universe, then he turns around and says that the movies are the final word on everything Star Wars, damn everything else.

But what matters is that he and his crew, Haden Blackman included, MADE that change. And to be fair, I agree with you, it was a change with a good narrative behind it, and I actually prefer it as an origin story to the Rebel Alliance over Tarkin just landing a ship over some random yahoos.

But that was barely the only change. As I said, they retconned a lot of things from the old EU, from Boba Fett's backstory to which side the clones were in the Clone Wars.


As I said, he's a fan of some things from the EU, he doesn't like the whole thing. Which is actually, rather average for many EU fans. KOTOR fans, Mando fans, and old school fans are typically just fans of one part of the SWEU, until the internet culture became mainstream and people began reading up on large swathes of the EU online. And even then, I run across fans of EU works that don't know the rest of the EU outside of their forte. My position as a Sith/Empire fan made me more eager to consume EU material outside of one area or niche, since the Sith and the Empire are damn near everywhere, from the Old Republic era to the Legacy Era, but I've met many people who fanboy over some books or games........and completely ignore the rest of the EU or sometimes even say that Disney was right to kibosh the whole thing.


Er, no. Filoni is just indulging himself by putting his OCs everywhere, sure, but that's what many fans of TCW and the more recent SW media would like. They've been wanting this for a long while-more episodes with characters they grew up liking. It's a gold mine for Disney, and every time one of Filoni's OCs show up, be it Bo-Katan, Cad Bane, or Ahsoka Tano, people flip and lose their shit. Which means more money for Disney.

And yes, I enjoy TCW. Granted, I don't see everything in it as canon, especially the chip stuff, but it's a good way to kill an afternoon. And I'm not saying that Filoni shouldn't be criticized-I just don't see him as the heir of Satan the way you people talk about him. He's a guy who works on kids' cartoons, and he has a very childish way of looking at things, but given the current audience of Star Wars now, that's probably more profitable for Disney to put someone with a kid's mind in charge. Especially since they do profit whenever his OCs show up. That, and he's hardly the only one retconning EU materials, since even Lucas and other authors partook of such a sport. It's just that, with the success of Filoniverse works, Filoni is going to have a free hand to retcon whatever he wants, because it does bring the normies in and it does make the profit margins flow.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Hell my knowledge of the old EU is mostly the Clone Wars and the dark times. And some of the Vong War.

That's the thing with Filoni he may be guilty of retconing shit. But he's not the only one to do that shit in the star wars franchise.

One thing about Filoni is that his works are the only thing keeping star wars currently aflot wait now.
 
Couldn't have said it better myself. Hell my knowledge of the old EU is mostly the Clon Wars and the dark times. And some of the Vong War.

That's the thing with Filoni he may be guilty of retconing shit. But he's not the only one to do that shit in the star wars franchise.
Exactly-Filoni wasn't the first to retcon important events in the SW franchise. In fact, prior to the EU reset, his retcons were at most, minor. It wasn't as big as retconning Boba Fett's backstory or how the Rebel Alliance was founded, let alone changing which side the clones were in the Clone Wars. The only major retcon I know is the Mandalorian stuff, and while that retcon was hated at first, people began to love it once Darth Maul got involved.

One thing about Filoni is that his works are the only thing keeping star wars currently aflot wait now.
Basically, yes. The only good parts of Disney Star Wars, outside of the odd comic or game, is the Filoniverse SW. And yes, people lose their shit and millions love it every time one of Filoni's characters come onboard. It's the exact opposite effect as some EU stories like say, Legacy of the Force, which pissed off the EU fanbase to the point where many of them stopped buying books afterwards. Or how SWTOR treated Revan, which caused many KOTOR fans to swear off SWTOR, which is sad, since SWTOR had a lot of good stories in the vanilla game.
 
I didn’t know that Saoirse Ronan auditioned for Rey.


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Maybe. Its not too uncommon for Fictional stories to be inspired by and take things from other stories.
True but the similarity was oddly specific and the timing too. But Caravan Kidd was much more focus on who is really the villain and the hero. As the supposed villain was the one who saved everyone on the planet from extinction once already. And the supposed hero was sent to the same planet along with others to kill everyone on it.
 
Exactly-Filoni wasn't the first to retcon important events in the SW franchise. In fact, prior to the EU reset, his retcons were at most, minor. It wasn't as big as retconning Boba Fett's backstory or how the Rebel Alliance was founded, let alone changing which side the clones were in the Clone Wars. The only major retcon I know is the Mandalorian stuff, and while that retcon was hated at first, people began to love it once Darth Maul got involved.


Basically, yes. The only good parts of Disney Star Wars, outside of the odd comic or game, is the Filoniverse SW. And yes, people lose their shit and millions love it every time one of Filoni's characters come onboard. It's the exact opposite effect as some EU stories like say, Legacy of the Force, which pissed off the EU fanbase to the point where many of them stopped buying books afterwards.
Exactly a lot of people here may not like it. But many normies love seeing Ashoka, Rex and Cad Bane showing up on screen on one of Filoni's shows and the internet reactions are huge as well.
 
Exactly a lot of people here may not like it. But many normies love seeing Ashoka, Rex and Cad Bane showing up on screen on one of Filoni's shows and the internet reactions are huge as well.
Which means Disney now has their Star Wars goldmine. People love seeing Filoni's characters waltz into the screen, which means that Disney will go with that to make money off Star Wars.
 
Which means Disney now has their Star Wars goldmine. People love seeing Filoni's characters waltz into the screen, which means that Disney will go with that to make money off Star Wars.
Have you notice the sequel trilogy characters haven't gotten any attention or major new stories lately. Because disney has realized that Filoni's characters can keep this franchise going for now.
 
Have you notice the sequel trilogy characters haven't gotten any attention or major new stories lately. Because disney has realized that Filoni's characters can keep this franchise going for now.
Sequel Trilogy character toys are rotting in some landfill. Filoniverse character toys are selling like hotcakes. It's simple math. Disney and Hasbro want a return on their investment, so they're bringing up the one man who can make the Disney SW universe profitable.
 
Sequel Trilogy character toys are rotting in some landfill. Filoniverse character toys are selling like hotcakes. It's simple math. Disney and Hasbro want a return on their investment, so they're bringing up the one man who can make the Disney SW universe profitable.
Winner chicken dinner my friend. You got it. Filoni's currently is the only person making them money wait now with Star wars. High Republic is doing shit in sales and the only people who talk about it is twitter SJWs.
 
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