Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
Watching the most recent Technoblade stream where he is literally just sitting in a room with Dream for an hour. It really highlights how awkward Clay is around other people in a non-scripted environment. Techno is just so much better at improvisation than he is in every way. The guy can just spool off dialogue without hesitation, and turn every random tangent into a serious analytical diatribe. Meanwhile Dream just stands there and mumbles occasionally, completely out of his depth. It's like watching Jeremy Irons desperately trying to get Ed Speleers to act in the awful Eragon movie adaptation. You have a guy who can take nothing and turn it into anything sitting next to a guy who needs three weeks and a succession of careful rehearsals to muster up the nerve to speak up for himself, and it's painful to endure.
 
Watching the most recent Technoblade stream where he is literally just sitting in a room with Dream for an hour. It really highlights how awkward Clay is around other people in a non-scripted environment. Techno is just so much better at improvisation than he is in every way. The guy can just spool off dialogue without hesitation, and turn every random tangent into a serious analytical diatribe. Meanwhile Dream just stands there and mumbles occasionally, completely out of his depth. It's like watching Jeremy Irons desperately trying to get Ed Speleers to act in the awful Eragon movie adaptation. You have a guy who can take nothing and turn it into anything sitting next to a guy who needs three weeks and a succession of careful rehearsals to muster up the nerve to speak up for himself, and it's painful to endure.
Fun fact: The stream was supposedly Dream's idea in the first place
Also if any of you don't know what we're talking about-
 
Watching the most recent Technoblade stream where he is literally just sitting in a room with Dream for an hour. It really highlights how awkward Clay is around other people in a non-scripted environment. Techno is just so much better at improvisation than he is in every way. The guy can just spool off dialogue without hesitation, and turn every random tangent into a serious analytical diatribe. Meanwhile Dream just stands there and mumbles occasionally, completely out of his depth. It's like watching Jeremy Irons desperately trying to get Ed Speleers to act in the awful Eragon movie adaptation. You have a guy who can take nothing and turn it into anything sitting next to a guy who needs three weeks and a succession of careful rehearsals to muster up the nerve to speak up for himself, and it's painful to endure.
To be fair, this might have been purposeful.

In the Lore — yes I keep up with it I know I’m retarded — Dream had been isolated for months and tortured for weeks. So his awkwardness with Techno during the stream may have been as result of this, or character Dream’s natural manipulation to play docile and weak.

But I’m probably looking too far into this. Dream needs to get better at social interaction.
 
To be fair, this might have been purposeful.

In the Lore — yes I keep up with it I know I’m retarded — Dream had been isolated for months and tortured for weeks. So his awkwardness with Techno during the stream may have been as result of this, or character Dream’s natural manipulation to play docile and weak.

But I’m probably looking too far into this. Dream needs to get better at social interaction.

Honestly, from most of his non-minecraft livestreams he seems to be pretty comfortable talking with others, even relative strangers. Hell, even in his pre-lore SMP streams, the dude was fairly chatty with the original 10 members.

Not to mention the moment where they broke character near the end and laughed at how Techno was dragging the stream on, it sounded like how Clay was talking for most of the stream was intention. Especially since Techno tells Clay to get back in character after that.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
Hopefully people will actually abide by this, Ranboo has stated his boundaries multiple times and his fanbase just doesn’t care. Same with Wilbur to a certain extent.
 
Hopefully people will actually abide by this, Ranboo has stated his boundaries multiple times and his fanbase just doesn’t care. Same with Wilbur to a certain extent.
I do believe that Dream actually blocking people may harden these boundaries further. And alienate all the weirdos.

But I’m being optimistic. Last time Dream blocked someone via a blockchain, he got shat on by Twitter. Clay, if you’re reading this, make sure to collect and archive all evidence before blocking.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
Probably a wise move to put some things like this in an easy to share format. Previously when he disavows harassment or toxicity he'll do it in some easy to miss stream or another clumsy way.

Can't wait to see people get upset about there being a big box on racism and not LGBT (during pride month!) or ableism or god knows whatever else. Like I say, he's being slowwalked into dividing his fanbase.

He ought to create another graphic like this on how his fans should treat each other, or other fanbases, that'd be a step towards fixing the toxicity in his fandom culture, and not just how much of it is directed towards him.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
Maybe my eyes are retarded but this font was a struggle to read. He'll be golden if he reads this off and elaborates some points with examples in a video, even on his second channel, instead of just his discord.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
Now just post this publically on an account with further reach. A step further, though- clever to let his stans do all the confrontation when he's a wuss.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
I'm surprised by how reasonable some of these are, but it's too little, too late. Clayton has already allowed his fanbase to become a cesspool of tween toxicity and there's no undoing it.

The stans will just find ways to justify their actions (racism, ableism, homophobia ect, since they're the most heinous and unforgivable crimes!) and continue acting as they always have.

As we've already seen, it's going to take a lot more than a "haha guys don't send death threats it makes me look bad!" to stop the toxicity.
 
Why would he not post this on Twitter where all this toxic stuff actually happens? Hardly anyone on Twitter is talking about it.

Funny how most of the things on his boundary list is stuff the farms have criticized him for.
That would make so much sense but then again Twitter is how Dream gets all this attention so of course he isn’t gonna say shit about this on twitter.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
Oh man, the thing about him dating George during pride month? Stans are either going to accuse him of queerbaiting or just massively cope that their uwu babies are actshully gonna get together anyway.
 
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This was dropped by Clay himself in his discord. I grabbed it through Twitter. Hope he actually goes through with blocking people as he said.
I can't imagine feeling the need to make a wall of text establishing boundaries while not realizing just how retarded and hated your fans are. This is, as usual, too soft to be effective. It leaves the "oops I didn't know teehee" excuse open and it makes sense stans wouldn't know since he didn't blast it to the problem areas so it may even be the truth.

Just say "Don't harass people and do NOT ship people who haven't explicitly said they're okay with it or you will be blocked!" If they can't understand what constitutes harassment then that's on them.
I find it disturbing he doesn't just say "No NSFW fanart!" but instead leaves an opening for all of the degenerate art about him and his friends. Imagine reading this out loud to a crowd of fans, "I do not tolerate gore art in any form... unless it is of a fictional character (aka dsmp)" That is effectively a green light on gore art. What the fuck is wrong with Clay? I'm wondering if he gets off to it or something because no sane person condones that insane corner of fetish art.
 
I can't imagine feeling the need to make a wall of text establishing boundaries while not realizing just how retarded and hated your fans are. This is, as usual, too soft to be effective. It leaves the "oops I didn't know teehee" excuse open and it makes sense stans wouldn't know since he didn't blast it to the problem areas so it may even be the truth.

Just say "Don't harass people and do NOT ship people who haven't explicitly said they're okay with it or you will be blocked!" If they can't understand what constitutes harassment then that's on them.
I find it disturbing he doesn't just say "No NSFW fanart!" but instead leaves an opening for all of the degenerate art about him and his friends. Imagine reading this out loud to a crowd of fans, "I do not tolerate gore art in any form... unless it is of a fictional character (aka dsmp)" That is effectively a green light on gore art. What the fuck is wrong with Clay? I'm wondering if he gets off to it or something because no sane person condones that insane corner of fetish art.
I believe by Gore art he means things like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamsmp/c...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

If he were to condemn all Gore art, artists that create pieces like the linked one would be harassed, since most people can’t understand nuance in the dsmp community.
 
I believe by Gore art he means things like this: https://www.reddit.com/r/dreamsmp/c...urce=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

If he were to condemn all Gore art, artists that create pieces like the linked one would be harassed, since most people can’t understand nuance in the dsmp community.
Dream would think that pic is awesome as hell. He's like that.

He's talking about this thread, 100%. Or at the very least, people talking about things they saw on this thread.
 
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