What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

YoungHustle said:
What am I missing about population control being bad? Is it that we’re carrying it to its logical conclusion (Children of Man style no birth, killing already-born people, forced sterilization, that kind of thing)
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Yeah, pretty much. Not to mention that the ultimate goal is a tiny elite living lives of luxury and a serf population to serve them. The no-birth, sterilization, and killing will never be levelled against them, only the massive population of useless eaters. And to the elite, we are all worthless eaters.
 
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YoungHustle said:
I’ll be the first to admit, I’m a bear of very little brain, so I ask questions. What am I missing about population control being bad? Is it that we’re carrying it to its logical conclusion (Children of Man style no birth, killing already-born people, forced sterilization, that kind of thing)? I get that, I just never see the segue spelled out and want to make sure I’m on the same page.
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There's definitely too many people on the planet, with regards to how our lifestyles are, to be sustainable.

There's two main types of population control:
1. People having fewer children, either by encouraging them or forcing them to.
2. Killing already born people.

For #1, as long as it's not forced, I don't think anyone has a problem with it. Forcing it is obviously very bad.

For #2, most people (myself included) would have a huge problem with this one and I think this is generally what is referred to by "population control" by conspiracy theorists.
 
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These are a few that popped into my head, may post/elaborate on them further if need be.

  • FDR was aware of a Japanese attack on US Soil. Not to say he let Pearl Harbor happen or that having the carriers out was planned or anything, just that FDR knew based on intel he was given by the British and the military, Japan was preparing for some sort of offensive against the US. He decided to let it happen, presuming it would be somewhere closer to Japan like Guam or the Philippines, as it would justify the US getting into the war he very clearly wanted to join anyways.
  • The government/FBI/CIA knew someone wanted JFK killed. Kennedy clearly had bitten the hands that fed him far too many times for them to tolerate him anymore. The guy had shot down false flags to justify invading Cuba, military action against Castro, and was allegedly going after the Fed Reserve. Either Oswald was paid off to kill Kennedy, was acting for a foreign government, or the Feds simply picked him up to be their fall guy. Jack Ruby was there to off Oswald so he couldn't blab if he wanted to.
  • The CIA infiltrated the media during Vietnam. Simply put the CIA had numerous assets spin the war into a good thing as best they could in the 60s in hopes to combat the anti-war movement growing. They stopped just short of propaganda films, which would have been more blatant propaganda, preferring a subtler approach. This infiltration has lasted far beyond the war into today where the media very obviously acts as a propaganda wing for one or more political groups.
  • There are independent small groups of wealthy and influential men and women influencing the world. Elitist society has always existed but seems to have rapidly expanded either right after WW2 or in the Interwar years, though these groups probably have their roots in the preceding century. They actively demonize any and all nations and people who don't play by their rules and work against them for their own benefit. It is why corporations are basically untouchable anymore and these individuals are as equally unreachable to face consequences barring serious fuck ups. They aren't an exclusive club per say, new money can mingle with old money, but certainly have a hierarchy. In essence they are basically a new nobility plotting their own schemes separate from each other, which is why you see a lot of them marrying into each other's family (One of Bush Jr's girls is married to a Koch for example). They aren't allied to each other but as they all like fucking over the average joe they basically are. For now
  • From roughly the 2000 Election onward all elections have been fraudulent. This probably goes back further, hell Nixon was almost certainly cheated out of his 1960 run thanks to the Kennedy's ties to the political class, but post-2000 (Which Bush Jr. probably won in the end thanks to his daddy's name) this is far more glaring.. It is likely the cheating was basically minor shit like a few thousand votes here or there, stuff that flies under the radar, but some telling shit is 2016. I ca get to the media incidentally making Trump POTUS later but basically Trump said in 2016 how the election might be cheated in Hilary's favor. The media instantly came out and said how elections can't be cheated. So did Obama. So did Hilary. Then, in a shock twist Trump actually won, recounts in Michigan and a few other areas came up with even more Trump votes, and suddenly the media narrative, Hilary included, is that Russians hacked the election, etc. Whether or not 2020 was actually cheated is another debate.
  • Someone in the government was aware of 9-11. A lot like the FDR one, someone or a group of people were aware that a terror attack may happen and let it happen. Why? To justify shit like the Patriot Actor intervention in the Middle East. Who exactly knew of it, why ,and other questions are what goes unanswered, but it's likely the same reason the FBI ignores random schizos who go on shooting sprees, to justify mass surveillance and their budgets.
I can elaborate further on ones related to Israel, the CIA, and big Tech/corporate oligarchies. Oh and in light of recent news,

McAfee didn't kill himself.
 
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Since people are talking about environment and overpopulation, here's some interesting thoughts.

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There will come a time, soon, where the elites will be able to live without money existing. When technology gets to a point (we aren't far off) where it can sustain life (grow food, raise animals etc) then a select number of worker humans will be kept alive to maintain/run the technology. These workers will live in relative luxury and the elite will live with all the wealth and prosperity in the world, while enjoy an Earth almost emptied of humans.

A garden of Eden.
 
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HymanHive said:
There will come a time, soon, where the elites will be able to live without money existing. When technology gets to a point (we aren't far off) where it can sustain life (grow food, raise animals etc) then a select number of worker humans will be kept alive to maintain/run the technology. These workers will live in relative luxury and the elite will live with all the wealth and prosperity in the world, while enjoy an Earth almost emptied of humans.

A garden of Eden.
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But then who will they hunt, sacrafice, rape and eat?
 
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This one is less of a theory and more of a hypothetical, because for me the jury is still out on aliens knowing about or examining the human race. However, that said,

I've seen the idea advanced fairly recently that if there is alien life currently examining us and our actions, that one of, if not the only reason they have not contacted us is that they are no longer an organic form of life, and the alien "race" is machine in nature. Either some kind of AI, or their species did achieve the goal of uploading a person/people into a computer and then had no problems destroying the originals.

This honestly makes the most sense to me regarding the nature of an alien race. It would explain why their actions seemingly make no sense at all to our priorities, why they have no interest in communicating with us directly (they may regard us as lesser lifeforms, or, more realistically, we simply cannot communicate with them because our ways of thinking are fundamentally incompatible), and it would explain how they can explore the universe if FTL is really impossible. What's a few hundred years accelarating close to the speed of light to cross an interstellar gap to a computer? What's a few thousand? Few hundred thousand? Even a million, if their technology can last that long?

Not coincidentally, I've become incredibly skeptical that filthy organic races, with all of their endless, endless flaws, including a constant drive to dominate our lesser members (hint: if you don't like dominating, you're probably the one being dominated, and you've already lost) can ever achieve a starfaring civilization at all. Infact, for me, the only thing standing in the way of the idea that machine life is the next stage of evolution is the doubt that any organic race can even accomplish something like that before killing itself off.

But all that said, I still rather doubt we've actually experienced alien contact at all.

YoungHustle said:
I was just about to ask, did he mean anti-intellectualISM as in “return to Monke,” or as in “the industrial revolution and its consequences etc etc”
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Its kind of neither. More a "Smart people will eventually cause trouble, so you should keep an eye on them and not ever let them have too much respect or power".
 
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9/11 obviously, Sandy Hook and anything exposing the Rothschilds and co.

I draw the line at the reptillian shape-shifting lizard theories and other similar disinfo campaigns.

Flat earth is an interesting one, but I ended up leaning towards it being more bs disinfo...
 
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heathercho said:
Fair, I guess after 9/11, America is perfectly happy to show death on live TV. That is the "only way" the public will believe it happened after all.

As for USSR, I think if they did, they would have culturally lost out more. I don't know a whole lot about the cultural dynamics of the USSR, but from what I do know, I believe it would have hurt their psyche more as a unit to make themselves the object of ridicule. Think about it on a human to human perspective - Joe goes to the Moon, Sergei says Fuck off Joe, no you didn't. Joe says prove it. Sergei says well ___ and ___. Joe says TV says I went to the moon.
It makes the doubting party look like a clown. The USSR's whole construct was built on ego, much as North Korea's Juche is. Pure ego.
Look at what the Nork's believe - they believe that NK can cure cancer and aids, the Kim's don't need to shit or pee, disabilities don't exist, that KJU could drive a car at 3, that nature itself mourns the death of the previous leaders, that the NK's win every Olympics (they've spliced together videos to show people of their "wins") and my genuine personal favorite - that North Korea discovered real, true and honest Unicorns.

These aren't myths, the people truly believe those things.
Ego is vital for the survival. At the time, I don't believe USSR, if they thought that the moon landings were fake, would have said a single thing.

I don't really know what I think about the moon landings, but I do find what current astronauts (often the ISS ones) say about further space travel interesting. Maybe they just misspeak, but I do find it a bit strange that they've said things like "when we work out the Van Allen Belts and can go further than we are now" and things about going further out than the ISS orbit. Not solid proof, but its strange and I just can't logically chalk every time up to an astronaut misspeaking.
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Late, but phantom time conspiracy site Stolen History actually has an article about this Van Allen Belt situation. https://www.stolenhistory.org/artic...-get-through-the-van-allen-belts-in-1969.301/ It doesn't mention anything new, but it's food for thought.
 
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The reason why space travel is dangerous isn't just the Van Allen belt, but that people in space would be subject to constant radiation exposure. For example, on a 15 month Mars mission, the astronauts would be subject to radiation for pretty much that entire trip. That's a long time.
 
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If it's true, I'm sick of tyrants - now drunk on power from the coof - breaking down what's left of society with Clown World for the "superior future" of serfs "living in the pod, owning nothing, eating the bugs, and still being happy or on drugs". There's no way to stop them in sight, and their endless assault on humanity seems to be in all from demoralizing ugly modern architecture to ceaseless identity politics.

Whatever the cause, I hope this dystopia will stop someday.
 
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fashion and makeup companies have more sinister purposes than you think. among other things in my opinion they are part of a plan of "education in ugliness"
 
The moon landing looks fake as fuck, that's basically the only one I "believe" in. There's lots that are logical and probable, things I think happened or are happening, but as far as actually BELIEVING it to be true, that's pretty much it.

Well, unless you consider the 2020 election rigging to be a conspiracy theory, that's more like an open secret such as Epstein's "suicide".
 
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