Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Crunchy Leaf]

In the US, you can file complaints and stuff. There's a legal infrastructure that US citizens have access to.

However if a US citizen goes to thailand or whatever, they're totally at the mercy of the doctor.

But here’s the issue.
If you get a knee replacement, there’s a pretty clear definition of what a correct knee replacement looks like and feels like. You can easily say ‘okay, the doctor did this wrong’. Same with most surgeries.
But was SRS...what is it supposed to look like? What is it supposed to feel like? Outside of something like the doctor not using sterile equipment and you getting infected, I’m not sure what you could sue for SRS medical malpractice on.

 

[Peaches Demure]

"I'm not healing great" <--- We can tell that much, bud.

He's also worried about "losing depth" and when he tries to use an actual vibrator it started "gushing blood".

Spoiler: 22 days post-op

How long until this one 41's himself?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/o6sgg5/so_im_not_really_healing_too_well_at_all_does/

EDIT: I realize there was already a post about him here. He went to Djorjevic in Serbia for his surgery and seems to have been ghosted by him now. Definitely a 41% candidate.

 

[Gar For Archer]

"I'm not healing great" <--- We can tell that much, bud.

He's also worried about "losing depth" and when he tries to use an actual vibrator it started "gushing blood".

Spoiler: 22 days post-op

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How long until this one 41's himself?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/o6sgg5/so_im_not_really_healing_too_well_at_all_does/

lol, maybe don’t try using a vibrator on your barely-month-old frankenpussy? You’ll vibrate your stitches out!

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

lol, maybe don’t try using a vibrator on your barely-month-old frankenpussy? You’ll vibrate your stitches out!

"B-B-B-But they all said it's a real vagina!"

 

[Precocious Halfwit]

So this dude is considering "colon SRS", which is basically having part of your large intestine rerouted to form a part of the neo-vagina. The "advantages" of this form of vaginoplasty are (supposedly) that it self-lubricates. The drawbacks are... that it's constantly leaking bowel mucus and it smells like feces.

But that's not all! The dude'sf fellow troon buddy had this done a while back, apparently his stomach has now become "puffy and hard". Hmm. Could this be related to the Frankensteining of his intestines?

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r/Transgender_Surgeries - colon srs

15 votes and 6 comments so far on Reddit

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"... after a while and healing is complete, there is no bad smell."

Suddenly I'm reminded of those Febreze fabric spray adverts: 'Barbara's pussy smells like it's been stuffed with used medical gauze and dogshit, but she can't smell it: she's gone nose-blind!'

 

[Syntaxion]

"I'm not healing great" <--- We can tell that much, bud.

He's also worried about "losing depth" and when he tries to use an actual vibrator it started "gushing blood".

Spoiler: 22 days post-op

View attachment 2291462

How long until this one 41's himself?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/o6sgg5/so_im_not_really_healing_too_well_at_all_does/

EDIT: I realize there was already a post about him here. He went to Djorjevic in Serbia for his surgery and seems to have been ghosted by him now. Definitely a 41% candidate.

And to think that he posted this 2 years ago:



You should've listened to Mario

 

[Peaches Demure]

lol, maybe don’t try using a vibrator on your barely-month-old frankenpussy? You’ll vibrate your stitches out!

It's really quite appalling that The Serbian Butcher hasn't even given this poor unfortunate troon any guidelines when it's "safe" (relatively speaking) to penetrate the amhole with anything other than dilators. Even Kevin Gibes' doctor told him to wait 3 months, which he autistically complied with.

 

[Dustlord]

But here’s the issue.
If you get a knee replacement, there’s a pretty clear definition of what a correct knee replacement looks like and feels like. You can easily say ‘okay, the doctor did this wrong’. Same with most surgeries.
But was SRS...what is it supposed to look like? What is it supposed to feel like? Outside of something like the doctor not using sterile equipment and you getting infected, I’m not sure what you could sue for SRS medical malpractice on.

I'm not even sure you could prove the doctor wasn't using sterile equipment. Infections seem to be common across the board, at least in the days following the procedure, which makes sense as its essentially an open wound with skin pulled over it during that time period.
However I'm sure there is some kind of rule against not following up with a patient at all after a major surgery.

One issue with SRS surgeries that I've read about is that other doctors usually won't touch a neovag they didn't create.

Honestly the whole thing is a paradox. Anyone that would still agree to the surgery after seeing how awful they are, and how shady the industry as a whole is, probably isn't mentally sound enough to consent to this kind of surgery in the first place.

 

[behindyourightnow]

Article in which a nurse admits that bottom surgery aftercare is as sketchy and half-assed as you would imagine:

We Need to Talk about Wound Care in Transgender Women Healing From a Vaginoplasty - Johns Hopkins Nursing Magazine

Up to 30 percent of transgender women who have undergone a vaginoplasty suffered from some form of infection, yet current research does not offer recommendations for wound-care improvement.

magazine.nursing.jhu.edu

Of course his solution is 'hire transgender nurses.' I am sure throngs of MtFs are just lining up to enrol in nursing school and enter the caring professions. Any minute now.

 

[Syntaxion]

"I'm not healing great" <--- We can tell that much, bud.

He's also worried about "losing depth" and when he tries to use an actual vibrator it started "gushing blood".

Spoiler: 22 days post-op

View attachment 2291462

How long until this one 41's himself?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/comments/o6sgg5/so_im_not_really_healing_too_well_at_all_does/

EDIT: I realize there was already a post about him here. He went to Djorjevic in Serbia for his surgery and seems to have been ghosted by him now. Definitely a 41% candidate.

Pfff so I saved his account in my bookmarks to see if he updates anything because he posts so much about his transition. Then lo and behold I'm greeted with:



So he already 41%ed his reddit account, which he used for years. Chances are he's 41%ing before the year's over.

 

[mama Lazarou]

Article in which a nurse admits that bottom surgery aftercare is as sketchy and half-assed as you would imagine:

We Need to Talk about Wound Care in Transgender Women Healing From a Vaginoplasty - Johns Hopkins Nursing Magazine

Up to 30 percent of transgender women who have undergone a vaginoplasty suffered from some form of infection, yet current research does not offer recommendations for wound-care improvement.

magazine.nursing.jhu.edu

139 pages and countless other threads and this is the first I heard about them having to shit in their bandages.
I understand its preferable for medical professionals sanity to be low on empathy but this is bonkers. Theres no way there cant be a better way of keeping the stitches covered and the packing in place.

 

[behindyourightnow]

139 pages and countless other threads and this is the first I heard about them having to shit in their bandages.
I understand its preferable for medical professionals sanity to be low on empathy but this is bonkers. Theres no way there cant be a better way of keeping the stitches covered and the packing in place.

I have bitched about this before, I think, but I will do it again: remember, it is the people in threads like this one who are the true transgender haters, despite no one here doing much except typing mean words on the internet.

While in the meantime, a devoted section of the medical establishment is pushing trans people into shitty, rushed, conveyer-belt surgeries, like pigs in a fucking abattoir, lying to them about results and failure rates, not bothering to develop any post-surgical care that consists of more than wrapping them in a diaper to shit in their own wounds, sending them home and ghosting them when they get infections or when pieces of their genitals slough off. All in the name of collecting easy insurance or medicaid money, or just for the sake of coasting while performing 'easy' surgeries that you're never going to be sued for because there are no standards. While the rest of the medical establishment is happy to turn a blind eye.

But we are the ones who are literally harming and killing trans people.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Article in which a nurse admits that bottom surgery aftercare is as sketchy and half-assed as you would imagine:

We Need to Talk about Wound Care in Transgender Women Healing From a Vaginoplasty - Johns Hopkins Nursing Magazine

Up to 30 percent of transgender women who have undergone a vaginoplasty suffered from some form of infection, yet current research does not offer recommendations for wound-care improvement.

magazine.nursing.jhu.edu

Of course his solution is 'hire transgender nurses.' I am sure throngs of MtFs are just lining up to enrol in nursing school and enter the caring professions. Any minute now.

Archived: We Need to Talk about Wound Care in Transgender Women Healing from a Vaginoplasty.

I'm surprised that he works at a facility that routinely sees vaginoplasties, and yet there isn't a better post-op dressing plan than "lol reinforce it, whatever." Where's the facility's wound/ostomy/continence nurse? For that matter, wouldn't bedside nurses have asked the surgeons at various points about what to do if the dressing is stooled on?

I wonder if there have been dozens of unrecorded verbal orders about redoing the rolled gauze but leaving the vag packing. Something that unglamorous and hands-on wouldn't make it to the committee that updates the surgical order sets, but a nurse on a surgical unit gets to know the preferences of the usual surgeons.

(Dr. Smith is fine with you changing out the lumbar dressing if it's saturated immediately post-op; Dr. Jones only ever wants it reinforced; Dr. Nguyen is OK if you psychically receive orders for bowel care and don't actually call after nine.)

Back to the article: it's so unpractical. Using the "we need to talk about" construction is tumblr-tier, and then his three "solutions" are to hire trans nurses, expand the m/f marker in the EMR, and "share stories." There's only one hard statistic in the piece, and it's the "up to 30%" post-op infection rate, which is the same as "30% or less."

How does that compare to other urogenital surgeries' infection rate? Who knows, and who bothers to check? Not this bedside-noob-direct-entry-into-MSN, heading to his DNP per the bio.

That seventh paragraph is really the load-bearing paragraph: along with the only statistic, it mentions that there are no vaginoplasty wound care recommendations in the literature so far. Wouldn't that mean that the thing to do is to start looking at post-op results, collating similar wound care protocols and recording their outcomes as useful data for quality assessment? Reaching out to a CWON for input?

No, no. This dude's focus is awareness. It'll make all the difference if a MtF RN is the one reinforcing the rolled gauze over stool, and that's it.

 

[ash9990]

Holy crap, the average set of moobs look significantly better than this.

This wouldn’t be an acceptable result on a woman, let alone a man. Surely it’s possible to make a better set of fake boobs than this?

Men don't have Cooper's ligaments, which are "tough, fibrous, flexible connective tissue that shape and support the female breasts".

That's why their moobs grow in a weird cone shape and when they get implants they look like bolt ons with a huge gap between them. Women also have smaller upper bodies so the implants do not look the same on a male frame. The surgeon could've transfered fat or something but he looks very athletic and probably doesn't hold fat well, like most men.

 

[Crunchy Leaf]

Article in which a nurse admits that bottom surgery aftercare is as sketchy and half-assed as you would imagine:

We Need to Talk about Wound Care in Transgender Women Healing From a Vaginoplasty - Johns Hopkins Nursing Magazine

Up to 30 percent of transgender women who have undergone a vaginoplasty suffered from some form of infection, yet current research does not offer recommendations for wound-care improvement.

magazine.nursing.jhu.edu

Of course his solution is 'hire transgender nurses.' I am sure throngs of MtFs are just lining up to enrol in nursing school and enter the caring professions. Any minute now.

Sure, if they’re HSTS. Actually, I’d love to see a sassy black HSTS yell at a white troongrammer about aftercare noncompliance.

 

[Schatzi Katze]

Archived: We Need to Talk about Wound Care in Transgender Women Healing from a Vaginoplasty.

I'm surprised that he works at a facility that routinely sees vaginoplasties, and yet there isn't a better post-op dressing plan than "lol reinforce it, whatever." Where's the facility's wound/ostomy/continence nurse? For that matter, wouldn't bedside nurses have asked the surgeons at various points about what to do if the dressing is stooled on?

I wonder if there have been dozens of unrecorded verbal orders about redoing the rolled gauze but leaving the vag packing. Something that unglamorous and hands-on wouldn't make it to the committee that updates the surgical order sets, but a nurse on a surgical unit gets to know the preferences of the usual surgeons.

(Dr. Smith is fine with you changing out the lumbar dressing if it's saturated immediately post-op; Dr. Jones only ever wants it reinforced; Dr. Nguyen is OK if you psychically receive orders for bowel care and don't actually call after nine.)

Back to the article: it's so unpractical. Using the "we need to talk about" construction is tumblr-tier, and then his three "solutions" are to hire trans nurses, expand the m/f marker in the EMR, and "share stories." There's only one hard statistic in the piece, and it's the "up to 30%" post-op infection rate, which is the same as "30% or less."

How does that compare to other urogenital surgeries' infection rate? Who knows, and who bothers to check? Not this bedside-noob-direct-entry-into-MSN, heading to his DNP per the bio.

That seventh paragraph is really the load-bearing paragraph: along with the only statistic, it mentions that there are no vaginoplasty wound care recommendations in the literature so far. Wouldn't that mean that the thing to do is to start looking at post-op results, collating similar wound care protocols and recording their outcomes as useful data for quality assessment? Reaching out to a CWON for input?

No, no. This dude's focus is awareness. It'll make all the difference if a MtF RN is the one reinforcing the rolled gauze over stool, and that's it.

Ahhh it's always a great day when Aunt Carol contributes to a medical thread. <3

The author seems to have been more or less inactive since that article posted but here's all his social media anyway. Funny thing though, for writing such a handmaideny op-ed he sure doesnt seem to have any pictures with trans people.

Spoiler: generic white gay man ahoy

https://twitter.com/nursematthopper?lang=en

https://www.instagram.com/mattissippi/?hl=en

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmatthopper/

https://www.facebook.com/jmhopper

 

[Neko GF]

Another example of the wonders of SRS's impacts on troon lives:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgende...o7qryj/mtf_postop_vaginoplasty_advice_needed/ (Archive)

 

[Aunt Carol]

Ahhh it's always a great day when Aunt Carol contributes to a medical thread. <3

Don't take my word for anything; I went to junior college.

The author seems to have been more or less inactive since that article posted but here's all his social media anyway. Funny thing though, for writing such a handmaideny op-ed he sure doesnt seem to have any pictures with trans people.

Spoiler: generic white gay man ahoy

https://twitter.com/nursematthopper?lang=en

https://www.instagram.com/mattissippi/?hl=en

https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmatthopper/

https://www.facebook.com/jmhopper

"recent MSN graduate and prospective RN:" welp, there you go.

I wonder if some sanity, or at least pragmatism, kicked in and made him ditch that "professional" Twitter so quickly. It's a comprehensive autodox, and a "they/them" isn't going to protect a gay white man when it's time for the circular firing squad.

His Linkedin looks normal, barring the old LGBT++ certification deep down. Butts, BBQ and occasional PPE on Instagram, that's WNL for your generic white gay man.

Maybe a couple of years of honest labor cured him, no sarcasm. If he'd taken that MSN right into a clipboard nursing job, he'd be keeping up the buzzwords and writing internal emails that everyone dreads. A couple years of sweat and respiratory precautions and actually spending time with the disadvantaged, and he's just a nurse who happens to be gay as hell.

It brings a tear to my eye.

 

[Mepsi Pax]

The IP2 thread is the cringiest on this site, but this thread is (easily) the most repulsive, vile, horrific collection of images and even 1st hand (!) anecdotes just about anywhere.

Man's inhumanity to man... well sure, but it's our animal nature. Kill, rape, mutilate. It's not pretty but we have laws against it, we have moral codes against it, communities of BDSM murderers don't post their snuff pics on major social media sites. An arm torn by gunfire is still an arm. It will either be patched together or it will be amputated entirely.

This shit though really descends into hell, "I will pay a literal who to cut my penis and balls off, and I will not relent... I will have them gouge out my innards, sew the deteriorating flesh back together, stuff it back in... I will watch my body fester, my tissue will decay... I will torture the wound with a sex toy... I will never truly function again". Leering in the mirror, the mutilated unhealthy freak has lost all humanity. It's blindingly obvious that conventional human pronouns don't apply here anymore.

The female version's not much better, but you can come up with your own FTM self-annihilation prayer.

 

[Red Lobster]

Fresh dysphoria-inducing gore is presented to you today by Specialist_Dust_7381, who has posted how her dong looked like at day two, eight and fourteen post-op (made by butcher Dr. Freet):

Spoiler: 🌶

Abdominal phalloplasty post opt day 2

8 day post opt abdominal phalloplasty - GRAPHIC

2 weeks post opt abdominal phalloplasty *graphic*

And joining her is Own_Sentence_2596 who was brave enough only to post her forearm (made by butcher Dr. Berli) – so you can let your mind wander how the thing down her panties pants looks like. This is one of the cases where the body she had was fairly decent (in the realm of what is possible to do for a FTM) before:

Spoiler: 🥓

Arm Scar 8 weeks post op (Ask me anything) Berli OHSU

Button up euphoria is real

Top Surgery, Berli 2017

Girl, I am as faggy as they get but I'd rather look at you with a pussy on that body you managed to get than have to look at that horrifying forearm even a minute.