Microsoft will unveil the next version of Windows on June 24th - What's next after Windows 10?

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Was looking in to migrating my setup to QubesOS, guess its something I'll have to pull the trigger sooner then later on since there is no fucking way I'm having hardware signing on my host OS.
 
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ToroidalBoat said:
Reminds me of the "live in the pod, eat the bugs, own nothing, and be happy" bullshit.

Anyway, I hope alternatives to "software as a service" and "cloud computing" can stay.
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You're always at least going to be able to buy hobbiest stuff that you fully own like Raspberry Pi and whatnot for the foreseeable future. I can see it getting harder and harder to build a full-on desktop PC, while at the same time new premade stuff like laptops and tablets will get locked down harder and harder. The writing is on the wall for that one.

Get ready to spend your free time playing 0AD and Super Tux in Raspbian.
 
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Screw MS. I've never bought a MS license, even when I was younger. I'm certainly not paying $100+ for a TPM 2.0 module just to run the latest version of their adware.

The only machine I have running windows is my TV PC that is based on haswell. It's too old to be officially supported according to those MS clowns, and I sure as hell aint paying to upgrade it anytime soon.
Dr. Geronimo said:
Call me dumb, but does Linux (Ubuntu specifically) still make you go through the cmd all the time? I tried it back in the day but couldn't stand that aspect. Also couldn't stand how every time I went to the community for help their answer was basically "don't whine it's free"

If Windows 11 is as bad as people say, and if 10 was any indication it won't be, I might give Mint a try.
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some things still require the use of the terminal. That will never fully go away.
Gay_Frog said:
Today, no. Maybe you need google somethings to make it work and copy-paste to "cmd"(it's called terminal if you search it) or use it to enter some program. But learning two things how to quit a program that is running in terminal(control + c) and install/unistall using a packet will get far in ubuntu like in windows.
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there are still things that require it. Like MESA drivers, if you want the latest version on the likes of mint you have to add the PPA manually. It's not hard, but its something that you dont have to do on windows.
Sithis said:
So, Windows 7 is still the best Windows in a post-XP world, right?
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Windows 8.1 for me. Many of the kernel updates for 10 were present in 8.1, including things like native usb 3 support, yet 8.1 didnt have the advertising BS of 10 and was as stable as 7.
Pee Cola said:
Even self-hosted cloud stuff isn't entirely safe. Just ask a WD My Book Live owner.
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Its not even clear if the user had to do anything to accomplish this. The WD books may have simply connected as soon as they had internet access.
 
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Pinochet Was Right said:
We know you guys are all talk and will NEVER switch to linux. Just man up now or get a mac like a sissy.

Anyways, it seems fine to me. They seem to be realizing they won't ever be an ecosystem, people have been treating windows like a hub between different ecosystems. Especially since they have to get with the times compared with the workflow synchronization of mac+iphone, achieving something similar with android should be obvious, since chromebooks aren't for everyone. Apparently the widget feed in W11 is gonna be a true successor to the live tiles of 10 or at least it seemed so in the presentation which means it should show information from the equivalent apps instead of throwing you shit from msn.com. The right-side panel seems better organized now and more visually intuitive like Android/Mac/iOS.

In short, my verdict is "about freaking time we got so and so." I'm not as irrationally autistic to seethe at anything that MS does to the point I'd be breaking the OS' to disable Defender in favor of fuckin' Mcafee just because they dared to promote it in a notification.

The fun thing is that the the only compatible PC I own is the one that runs Linux and I'm not switching that one to W11. The more powerful one is not compatible because it has a legacy BIOS, and it ain't THAT old! MS is really shitting the bed with this planned obsolescence crap, seems like way too drastic from the previous minimum requirements that amounted to "as long as it isn't a potato it doesn't matter how old it is". It feels like a short sighted measure that reeks of "we removed the headphone jack because Apple is doing it" thinking. Just dropping 32bit CPU support would be more sane.
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Microsoft is a ten-billion dollar multinational that doesn't care if you live or die. Why would you use it as a surrogate ego?
 
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Microsoft is also requiring a front-facing camera for all Windows 11 devices except desktop PCs from January 2023 onwards.
https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/...dows-11-cpu-support-tpm-hardware-requirements [https://archive.is/jPJFu]
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This is the first significant shift in Windows hardware requirements since the release of Windows 8 back in 2012, and the CPU changes are understandably catching people by surprise. Microsoft is also requiring a front-facing camera for all Windows 11 devices except desktop PCs from January 2023 onwards. It’s another change that will shape the hardware that Windows 11 will run on in the coming years.
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You can't make this shit up.
 
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DNA_JACKED said:
there are still things that require it. Like MESA drivers, if you want the latest version on the likes of mint you have to add the PPA manually. It's not hard, but its something that you dont have to do on windows.
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Whatever the GUI upgrade manager is in mint supports adding new repos to the sources.list, so even if one wanted to run bleeding edge MESA the terminal isn't necessary (just convenient).
 
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