Cyberpunk 2077 Grieving Thread

[Leaf Wage Slave]

Supposedly the canceled multiplayer was a near carbon copy of GTA online. My theory is some CDPR exec saw the absurd amount of money GTA online was making, got greedy and demanded the game be scrapped and remade to fit that model.

The thing I don't think any of these Execs get is that shit like GTAO or Fortnite - hell, any of these games that get that big seemingly out of nowhere - is that they're not only in the right place at the right time, but they manage to not be complete dogshit at launch and maintain a steady stream of new content. The biggest problem I can think either of those launches had was server space, and CDPR would cheerfully kill several people if it meant that was their only problem with Cyberpunk. Hell, they haven't even put up any Free "these totally weren't cut content" DLCs a la Witcher 3, though I'm guessing thats more a case of them trying to use duct tape to salvage the Titanic at this point...

 

[TVStactic]

In what sense? Did he push for an increased action focus?

the retarded nigger that was one of the "gaem designers" started to simp for keanu, they changed the type of the game to a FPS and shafted the story to keanu, even killed the old jhonny model to make it more keanu like.
in the end of the story you get cucked by keanu either way.

 

[RA-5C Vigilante]

CDPR had no idea what they were doing with the Cyberpunk license. There is so much to talk about or cover in universe, and the best they could do is make Neuromancer with Keanu.
It's like they were given a full set of art supplies that cost thousands of dollars, and the best they could do is make a pretty generic landscape with stick figures that gets uglier the more you look at it.

 

[X Pac Heat]

is that they're not only in the right place at the right time, but they manage to not be complete dogshit at launch and maintain a steady stream of new content.

GTA Online was literally complete dogshit at launch though.

the retarded nigger that was one of the "gaem designers" started to simp for keanu, they changed the type of the game to a FPS and shafted the story to keanu, even killed the old jhonny model to make it more keanu like.
in the end of the story you get cucked by keanu either way.

I read somewhere that a former dev claimed that Johnny was more of a side character in the game originally, and the original actor they had playing him was waaaaaay better than Keanu.

 

[Absolutego]

CDPR had no idea what they were doing with the Cyberpunk license. There is so much to talk about or cover in universe, and the best they could do is make Neuromancer with Keanu.
It's like they were given a full set of art supplies that cost thousands of dollars, and the best they could do is make a pretty generic landscape with stick figures that gets uglier the more you look at it.

I wonder how much of the narrow narrative focus was CDPR's fault, instead of Mike Pondsmith's. Turning the game into the Johnny Silverhands Variety Hour (featuring guest star V), and inventing hackneyed reasons for all the major characters from the 2020 setting to still be kicking around, 57 years later, sounds more like something an original creator too attached to his OCs would do, instead of someone licensing the setting.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave]

GTA Online was literally complete dogshit at launch though.



I read somewhere that a former dev claimed that Johnny was more of a side character in the game originally, and the original actor they had playing him was waaaaaay better than Keanu.

In fairness, it’s been almost a decade since GTAO launched - Christ I feel old, and have they really been milking it for that long? - so forgetting the launch state is on me. I mostly just remember never being able to connect, and then 6 months later it was passable enough.

And as much as I like Keanu, it isn’t had to be more emotive than Keanu Reeves. Would Silverhand still feel welded on if any other Actor played him, oh god yeah (though I’d pay good money to hear Nic Cage as Silverhand - frankly it wouldn’t be the worst thing he’s ever done, and at least Cage always gives 200% no matter how shit the material). That said, here’s hoping someday those early builds leak onto the Internet, complete with Pre Keanu Silverhand

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

Out of all the stupid shit CDPR did or may have done, the idea that they wanted CP2077 to be the next GTA Online is the dumbest.

I'll never get how these devs and publishers can be so clueless as to why GTA Online makes the money that it does. GTA Online is successful for two reasons. A. Being a "rich person/influencer" simulator and B. Being a griefers paradise.

You can maybe get the second in some other setting, but the first? You can only get that in a (somewhat) modern LA setting. GTA Online is barely about crime anymore, it's all about buying the newest super car or helicopter so kids can feel like they're the people they watch on Youtube and TikTok.

The mass amount of kids are not clamoring to buy completely made up future but not that futuristic car in shitty, dingy Night City.

 

[Captain Syrup]

Out of all the stupid shit CDPR did or may have done, the idea that they wanted CP2077 to be the next GTA Online is the dumbest.

In a gold rush, the real money is in selling shovels.

 

[TVStactic]

I read somewhere that a former dev claimed that Johnny was more of a side character in the game originally, and the original actor they had playing him was waaaaaay better than Keanu.

if you can show emotions you are better than keanu already.

 

[Captain Syrup]

if you can show emotions you are better than keanu already.

Deadass. The less dialog he's given, the better.

He's a terrific action star. But action stars have no business being in a recording booth. Unless NetherRealm announces a John Wick DLC.

 

[DMX DA GOAT]

Keanu horribly miscast for the role.

Silver hand has some decent monologs in the game that Keanu butchers by just being aloof and bored. Silverhand s constantly said to be a man brimming with pure hatred for Alaska, corporations and night city in general and you NEVER get that impression in the game. Silverhand is supposed to be a Rockstar and instead he comes off as some hipster music fag.

 

[SiccDicc]

I'll play devil's advocate: Keanu can emote, like when he's himself or during that "you're breathtaking" moment, but the problem I think is that CDPR wanted John Wick. So they made him be John Wick. He's typecasted, not so much miscasted.

 

[Snekposter]

I'll play devil's advocate: Keanu can emote, like when he's himself or during that "you're breathtaking" moment, but the problem I think is that CDPR wanted John Wick. So they made him be John Wick. He's typecasted, not so much miscasted.

Trouble is they couldn't even get him to pull that off despite how many movies at the time? 2? Given that Keanu almost certainly has some sort of autism they really needed to get a director to ride his ass and tell him what to do and what not to do for VA stuff. Unfortunately he's Keanu, and that means kid gloves. Never mind that the dude is like an admitted dyslexic or something as well so its not like he's a stranger to that sort of help.

 

[SiccDicc]

Trouble is they couldn't even get him to pull that off despite how many movies at the time? 2? Given that Keanu almost certainly has some sort of autism they really needed to get a director to ride his ass and tell him what to do and what not to do for VA stuff. Unfortunately he's Keanu, and that means kid gloves. Never mind that the dude is like an admitted dyslexic or something as well so its not like he's a stranger to that sort of help.

Exactly, CDPR bit off way more than they could chew. I don't know if Keanu just defaults or what when he's not comfortable, but when he was on stage he was himself. I guess because he figured he was surrounded by other gamers or something, who knows? All I know is that they didn't have any lick of talent behind Keanu to really bring him out. Even the script sucked for someone like him. Plus as you said they had no balls to push him to be better.

He would have been better off playing a corpo or something that has dirt on you and uses you to go after rival projects. A dispassionate, but somehow charming suit that has you under his thumb until you pay off damages you did to his project; be it because you bundled a deal going on in the nomad lands, you fucked with an experiment trying to steal some tech as a street thug or you were a rival corpo that left a little bit too much to trace back to you with a robocop sort of vendetta playing out. Especially since Pondsmith's OC isn't so much a threat as is a death sentence and you're awaiting your turn on the chair. Could have worked as a First Act thing before you actually made a name for yourself buying your "freedom". Then have a lot of what you did drag you into a conspiracy in the Second Act and Third Act to either clean up your mess or make it worse.

But I'm treating it like an RPG and it's clearly an action game.

 

[Captain Syrup]

All I know is that they didn't have any lick of talent behind Keanu to really bring him out.

I never thought I say, "this material is beneath Keanu Reeves."

 

[SiccDicc]

I never thought I say, "this material is beneath Keanu Reeves."

Honestly, I'm shocked too.

 

[blablabla]

if they can manage to shit out some dlcs i hope they dont use johnny. v was a fucking afterthought

 

[Gamepad]

Uh, you did see the updated roadmap, right? The DLCs got reduced to just "small additional content."

 

[Absolutego]

Uh, you did see the updated roadmap, right? The DLCs got reduced to just "small additional content."

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lol this shit's getting put out to pasture early then. I expect a Ciri game announcement before summer 2022.

 

[Ruin]

Uh, you did see the updated roadmap, right? The DLCs got reduced to just "small additional content."

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So basically exactly what I expected. They're dropping support because they have no idea how to fix this game.