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A bit late to the party but the WHO chief scientist then I mentionned in an earlier post might face a different kind of music from what I read on an other thread. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/who-c...ressing-data-on-drug-to-treat-covid-19.92189/

Besides, the article from the Epoch Times mentionned in that thread, there's another article who talk of Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, the so-called WHO chief in question.

Scientist to Death for Misleading Over Ivermectin and Killing Indians​

June 24, 2021 by Brian Wang
The Indian Bar Association (IBA) sued WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan on May 25, accusing her in a 71-point brief of causing the deaths of Indian citizens by misleading them about Ivermectin. There is also an updated legal notice on June 13, 2021.
Point 56 states, “That your misleading tweet on May 10, 2021, against the use of Ivermectin had the effect of the State of Tamil Nadu withdrawing Ivermectin from the protocol on May 11, 2021, just a day after the Tamil Nadu government had indicated the same for the treatment of COVID-19 patients.”
If a trial in India finds WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan guilty then the WHO Scientist could be sentenced to death or life in prison. Dr Soumya Swaminathan would have be charged with the threatened criminal prosecution and be found guilty on one of the those charges.
The Government of Tamil Nadu has published new treatment protocols for COVID-19 patients that leaves out the use of ivermectin, which had been included in a previous version. The new protocols describe three categories of COVID-19 patients based on the level of care they need: home-based, primary care and pre-hospital care. It leaves hospital care out. The tests to determine the category to which a patient belongs are oxygen saturation (SpO2) and respiratory rate.
Advocate Dipali Ojha, lead attorney for the Indian Bar Association, threatened criminal prosecution against Dr. Swaminathan “for each death” caused by her acts of commission and omission. The brief accused Swaminathan of misconduct by using her position as a health authority to further the agenda of special interests to maintain an EUA for the lucrative vaccine industry.
 
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Western Australia reimposes restrictions after one new local case of Covid-19 recorded

A physiotherapist in Perth has tested positive for Covid-19 after visiting a Bondi cafe, prompting the West Australian government to reimpose some restrictions for at least three days.

Health Minister Roger Cook said it was believed the woman had the Delta strain of the virus.

“We are treating this situation seriously,” Mr Cook told reporters on Sunday.

Mr Cook said the woman had done everything right.

Restrictions will apply for the Perth and Peel regions from noon.

Among the restrictions are limits of 150 people for gatherings and no crowd at Optus Stadium for the West Coast Eagles versus Western Bulldogs match later on Sunday.

Masks will also be mandatory indoors and the 2 sqm rule is returning.

It was just last week that Western Australia moved to phase five — effectively lifting all restrictions except travel to remote Aboriginal communities.

“We know many of you will be disappointed by this news, but the health of our community is our priority,” Optus Stadium tweeted.

“We’ll see you back at the stadium as soon as government advice allows.”
Australia is well and truly fucked if they keep kneecapping their economy over a single fucking case.

Before 2020, I never thought Aussies were so eager to emulate North Korea (worse actually, because not even North Korea tries to limits their people to 2 KM). They're slitting their throats with smiles on their faces, too prideful to even consider if their efforts have any downside.

If governments ever let Corona go, it'll be interesting to see which countries are left with collapsed economies.
 
Rather sad trend I've noticed is families where the adults are all maskless, but still force their poor children to wear the propaganda muzzles.

Depending on how shit goes, I can see this meaning one of two things:

The adults are waiting until the powers that be say they can get their kids jabbed at any age (let's be honest this is blatantly the most likely scenario).

The kids will have to wear the face diapers until they're old enough for the jab, however many years that may be. After all, let's be real, the mask cult is never going to truly end now.
 
Rather sad trend I've noticed is families where the adults are all maskless, but still force their poor children to wear the propaganda muzzles.

Depending on how shit goes, I can see this meaning one of two things:

The adults are waiting until the powers that be say they can get their kids jabbed at any age (let's be honest this is blatantly the most likely scenario).

The kids will have to wear the face diapers until they're old enough for the jab, however many years that may be. After all, let's be real, the mask cult is never going to truly end now.
Why stop at muzzles, why not just throw them into sealed bubbles while we're at it?

For being "caring" parents, they sure seem determined to kneecap their children's developing immune systems.
 
Rather sad trend I've noticed is families where the adults are all maskless, but still force their poor children to wear the propaganda muzzles.

Depending on how shit goes, I can see this meaning one of two things:

The adults are waiting until the powers that be say they can get their kids jabbed at any age (let's be honest this is blatantly the most likely scenario).

The kids will have to wear the face diapers until they're old enough for the jab, however many years that may be. After all, let's be real, the mask cult is never going to truly end now.
Here there are virtually no kids wearing masks anymore, and since it's summer, families are descending upon my outdoor mall in droves, yet I only see a handful of masked kids a day. And usually, if the kid's wearing a mask so are the parents.

Can't remember if I mentioned this already but I've noticed that the people most likely to be wearing masks now are blacks.
 
Why stop at muzzles, why not just throw them into sealed bubbles while we're at it?

For being "caring" parents, they sure seem determined to kneecap their children's developing immune systems.
All of this is about kneecapping. Economy, public health (mental and physical), information, education (well, what little of genuine education exists anymore), relationships, social gatherings, it's all deliberate to tear down the status quo so they can "reset" to a terrifying new one.
 
From a study on the overall safety risk/benefit of mass vaccination

The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.


Background:
COVID-19 vaccines have had expedited reviews without sufficient safety data. We wanted to compare risks and benefits.
Method:
We calculated the number needed to vaccinate (NNTV) from a large Israeli field study to prevent one death. We accessed the Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR) database of the European Medicines Agency and of the Dutch National Register (lareb.nl) to extract the number of cases reporting severe side effects and the number of cases with fatal side effects.
Result:
The NNTV is between 200–700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer, while the NNTV to prevent one death is between 9000 and 50,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.
Conclusions:
This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.
 
What in the vaccine is killing people?
Well, depends on the vaccine. For the myocarditis and clotting the cause is not confirmed, but for allergic reactions it can be most of the ingredients, like any other allergic reaction.
 
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Well, depends on the vaccine. For the myocarditis and clotting the cause is not confirmed, but for allergic reactions it can be most of the ingredients, like any other allergic reaction.
I thought all of the MRNA vaccines were made the same?
 
I thought all of the MRNA vaccines were made the same?
The adenoviral vector vaccines are the ones that cause clotting, the mRNA ones appear to cause myocarditis in people with strong immune systems (healthy young people, mostly), my theory is that the latter is nothing to do with the components, the dose is just too high. They designed the vaccines to work in old people with weak immune systems, remember. Pfizer and Moderna's vaccines are pretty much the same, yes, except Moderna has an even higher dose.
 
Random LA Update:
People seem to be 50/50 on the masks inside shops these days. I do notice a lot more people wearing gloves, so maybe the ones who are still masking are the more hardcore Covidiets. Outdoor there's way way less masks.
Some businesses are getting lax about masking. Chain businesses seem to be requiring masks more than individual places.
One of my bosses called and asked if I could work a special weekend event and if I'd be more comfortable working from home or from the office? There was no mention of vaccines. I said I'd be happy to come in but the scheduling didn't end up working out.
Nobody's given me any flak or asked any questions when I walk into stores without a mask. Friends aren't asking either... I guess the new social etiquette is to avoid talking about it because it's so political? A few pro-vax people who are middle-of-the-road enough to have a serious conversation about this have been like, "The vaccine is avalible to anyone who wants it, so we should really be done with this mask thing."
All the "you must wear a mask - but if you're not vaccinated you don't have to" signs are still up outside every business.

I've spent the last couple days visiting friends in Monterey County. I was kind of isolated in a little farm town, but anecdotally there seemed to be a lot more masks up there than in LA. Like, farm workers were wearing masks out driving their trucks around... Abuellitas were wearing them out walking babies in strollers. Dunno. That's @JosephStalin 's world. :)
Monterey Friend tells me that the illegal immigrant farm workers have been terrified to get the shot because they think it's a government roundup and when they come back for their second shot they're gonna be deported.

Vaccinated People Updates:
My disabled friend who went to the ER for vision loss and half-body paralysis following their second vaccine is doing fine. (And by fine I still mean they still have a lot of weird muscle control problems, but they had those before the shot too.)
My friend who initially thought she was having a miscarriage from her first vaccine has been on her period for a month now. She's pissed and starting to regret getting the shot.
One friend is having bruise-level injection-site pain a month after their second shot. They had the Covid rash but it cleared up pretty quickly.
My friend who got injected while pregnant just delivered a healthy baby girl.
Grandpa's dropped a level of kidney failure since his shot but seems to be hanging on.
All my other friends have had symptoms ranging from nothing, to sore arms for most, to three day flu for a few. All in all they all seem fine and are all back at work and doing normal.
 
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From a study on the overall safety risk/benefit of mass vaccination

The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.


Background:
COVID-19 vaccines have had expedited reviews without sufficient safety data. We wanted to compare risks and benefits.
Method:
We calculated the number needed to vaccinate (NNTV) from a large Israeli field study to prevent one death. We accessed the Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR) database of the European Medicines Agency and of the Dutch National Register (lareb.nl) to extract the number of cases reporting severe side effects and the number of cases with fatal side effects.
Result:
The NNTV is between 200–700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer, while the NNTV to prevent one death is between 9000 and 50,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.
Conclusions:
This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.
Even though the evidence is staring society in the face more than ever before (which is impressive), I wonder if the reason nothing gets done based on it is because the politicians and bureaucrats genuinely don't know about it? Think of it, they've censored the surface of the internet so well that you have to go into the Deep Dark Scary Net like the dreaded 4chan and Kiwifarms to see people posting actual information including links to the actual science. Scientists who won't toe the line have their names and websites scrubbed from the search engines.

It sounds stupid, but let's keep in mind we're dealing with people who barely know how to turn a computer on, think the internet is a magical series of tubes, and rely on Google for everything.
All of this is about kneecapping. Economy, public health (mental and physical), information, education (well, what little of genuine education exists anymore), relationships, social gatherings, it's all deliberate to tear down the status quo so they can "reset" to a terrifying new one.
The "education" part backfired terribly, since parents sitting around listening/watching their kids in Zoom class exposed a lot of parents to the fucking weird shit that gets taught in many schools these days and no doubt gave a huge boost to the anti-critical race theory movement. Plus, you know, it's just not that effective of a way to indoctrinate future footsoldiers of globohomo when they're in the safety of their own home and aren't surrounded by peers who are equally under the control and authority of a globohomo propaganda missionary ("teacher").
 
The "education" part backfired terribly, since parents sitting around listening/watching their kids in Zoom class exposed a lot of parents to the fucking weird shit that gets taught in many schools these days and no doubt gave a huge boost to the anti-critical race theory movement. Plus, you know, it's just not that effective of a way to indoctrinate future footsoldiers of globohomo when they're in the safety of their own home and aren't surrounded by peers who are equally under the control and authority of a globohomo propaganda missionary ("teacher").
Yeah forgot about that angle, hell I even pointed the very same thing out in a different thread a while ago. Gotta take those modicums of silver linings where we can.

At the same time though, there's still the issue that a lot of children (unfortunately) have their social lives and friendships built around school that have been completely fucked over by all the stay at home bullshit. So, something of a catch 22 I suppose.
 
From a study on the overall safety risk/benefit of mass vaccination

The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.


Background:
COVID-19 vaccines have had expedited reviews without sufficient safety data. We wanted to compare risks and benefits.
Method:
We calculated the number needed to vaccinate (NNTV) from a large Israeli field study to prevent one death. We accessed the Adverse Drug Reactions (ADR) database of the European Medicines Agency and of the Dutch National Register (lareb.nl) to extract the number of cases reporting severe side effects and the number of cases with fatal side effects.
Result:
The NNTV is between 200–700 to prevent one case of COVID-19 for the mRNA vaccine marketed by Pfizer, while the NNTV to prevent one death is between 9000 and 50,000 (95% confidence interval), with 16,000 as a point estimate. The number of cases experiencing adverse reactions has been reported to be 700 per 100,000 vaccinations. Currently, we see 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations, and the number of fatal side effects is at 4.11/100,000 vaccinations. For three deaths prevented by vaccination we have to accept two inflicted by vaccination.
Conclusions:
This lack of clear benefit should cause governments to rethink their vaccination policy.
I plan to keep wearing a mask and never get vacc'd, personally. Almost everyone I know personally who've gotten it have had adverse reactions.
 
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I mentionned in an earlier post, an article of the Daily Mail talking about using Vitamin D against corona-chan. Well, they posted on June 1 an article about a study who go against Vitamin D. The comments dropped about that article raised some eyebrows.

Vitamin D does NOT protect against COVID infection or prevent it from becoming severe, study finds, after previous research suggested high levels fought off the virus​

  • Researchers looked at levels of vitamin D - the so-called 'sunshine vitamin' - among more than 1.2 million participants
  • They found that higher vitamin D levels was not linked to a lower risk of contracting COVID-19
  • Among people who did develop the disease, there was no difference between vitamin D levels and a likelihood of being hospitalized or falling severely ill
By MARY KEKATOS ACTING U.S. HEALTH EDITOR FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 14:00 EDT, 1 June 2021 | UPDATED: 14:00 EDT, 1 June 2021

Increasing vitamin D levels does not protect against susceptibility to COVID-19 or severity, a new study suggests.

Early in the pandemic, observational research suggested the vitamin prevented people from contracting the disease or dying from it.

But researchers from McGill University in Quebec, Canada, say that there was no difference in vitamin D levels between people who did and did not contract the virus.

What's more, among patients who did fall ill, patients with vitamin D levels were not less likely to have a severe bout of illness or be hospitalized with the disease.

Since the early days of the pandemic, researchers have been studying the effects of vitamin D, which plays a critical role in a healthy immune system, and is generally absorbed through the skin.

A February 2021 study from the University of Barcelona found that Vitamin D reduces coronavirus deaths by 60 percent

And a March 2021 study found that the 'sunshine vitamin' cuts the risk of contracting COVID-19 by seven percent.

But several health experts say there is still not enough evidence' that taking the immune-boosting nutrient can prevent or treat COVID-19.

'Most vitamin D studies are very difficult to interpret since they cannot adjust for the known risk factors for severe Covid-19 [like] older age [and] having chronic diseases, which are also predictors of low vitamin D,' said co-author Dr Guillaume Butler-Laporte, an infectious diseases and medical microbiology resident at McGil, in a statement.
 
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