Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

[Newman's Lovechild]

Former critics?

You two are the new Nasser and JDA. Fight between yourselves to figure out which is which.

Don't fight it. Don't resist. All return to the Celestial Lily Pad in the end.

 

[Mister Dongs]

Wait, did he really say this? Richard Meyer is legitimately retarded.

He did. I'd post the video in question but Meyer's review of his first reading of Swamp Thing in his late 40s has been quietly privated, presumably because of how embarrassing it was in retrospect. Like his review of Red Rooster from Walmart where he dismissed the complaints of Red Rooster's backers as saying "yeah it's late. What do you want, blood?" Good ol' "consumer advocate" Ya Boi Zack.

Don't fight it. Don't resist. All return to the Celestial Lily Pad in the end.

Indeed. As of today even Fan Advocacy Network has laid down his keyboard and declared himself as moving on from his one-man a-log war against Frog.

Could be worse; he could be like Geoff Johns who infamously resurrected Alec Holland from the dead as Swamp Thing purely to kill the version of Swamp Thing that Alan Moore "created" when he retconned all previous/future appearances of Swamp Thing a plant elemental clone of Alec via the Anatomy Lesson right down to explicitly writing the Moore version as a "corrupt perversion" of Swamp Thing.

I don't know what Geoff Johns' problem with Alan Moore is; between Doomsday Clock, Three Jokers and his Swamp Thing retcon, even down to biting Moore's 9-panel layouts, Johns just seems to want nothing more these days than to be the retarded spanish cleaning lady "touching up" Moore's proverbial Jesus mural. I don't know if it's some Dunning-Krueger effect going on where Johns has legitimately convinced himself that he's qualified to lay a finger on Moore's work, if he's trying to get his name in the mix of any adaptations of Moore's creations, or simply acting out of spite. The results have been so awful I'm not willing to rule out spiting Moore as the chief motivator here.


In other news, two and three days respectively after this post by yours truly regarding Heidi MacDonald's conflicting statements on Warren Ellis and his forums, was made, Perch Comics and Meyer brought the content to the counter-culture masses. Fans in Perch's comment section laud his video as the best piece of comics journalism and commentary he's ever done. I for one 100% agree

 

[GranDuke]

Johns doesn't have problems with Moore, He is (was?) exploiting Moore's work to rise his own profile. So you know, he has to do his own takes on Watchmen, The Killing Joke and Swamp Thing. Takes that could be seen as a continuation of Moore's work. I think he got this idea after he used Moore's Green Lantern short stories as a basis for his own GL run. He was at the same time mocked and praised for that by different circles of the fandom and you know, no bad publicity? After all, if you want Moore's GL ideas fully realised then you should pick up Johns GL because obviously Moore himself ain't going to do that.

Take Three Jokers for example. Morrison in his Batman's run developed the idea of Joker basically having split personality (super sanity it was called I think?) that is responsible for him reinventing himself from time to time. Thats basically there to explain why over the decades Joker would go from funny clown to genocidal maniac and back to something less extreme and then to something else again. It was fairly simple (as far as cape comics go) explanation that fixed some continuity issues and basically gave more freedom for writers on how to write Joker. But nah, Johns likely masturbates to The Killing Joke so Joker from that book is the real deal and every other variation that we have seen over the decades is "fake". And thats not enough, lets take very-obviously-fake Joker's origin from TKJ and lets present it as true and leave it as a hook for potential sequel.

I don't remember much about his Swamp Thing since it was fairly long ago and fizzled out quickly, but I wouldn't be surprised if he eventually would have connected it back to Moore's run so his run somehow would have looked like a companion to Moore's run. And as fake Joker's origin from TKJ shows Johns sometimes misses the point so its entirely likely that same happened with Swamp Thing.

 

[Miniluv]

Geoff Johns is also the creative genius that decided to bring back Barry Allen and Hal Jordan, the two blandest protagonists in comics, for no other reason than he wanted the return of the Super Friends he grew up with.

Wally West had been the Flash for over 20 years and was a far more compelling character than Barry Allen ever was and Hal was one of four Earth GLs, the other three being way more interesting than the standard whitebread, square jawed, Silver Age hero type Hal represented. The most interesting thing about both Hal and Barry was their deaths and the sacrifice they made, which were rendered moot by the Recycle Bin that is Geoff Johns' career.

 

[jspit2.0]

Geoff Johns is also the creative genius that decided to bring back Barry Allen and Hal Jordan, the two blandest protagonists in comics, for no other reason than he wanted the return of the Super Friends he grew up with.

Wally West had been the Flash for over 20 years and was a far more compelling character than Barry Allen ever was and Hal was one of four Earth GLs, the other three being way more interesting than the standard whitebread, Silver Age, square jawed hero type Hal represented. The most interesting thing about both Hal and Barry was their deaths and the sacrifice they made, which were rendered moot by the Recycle Bin that is Geoff Johns' career.

Why, don't deny our own @FROG his credit. He proudly holds himself as the destroyer of twenty years of story in order to bring back Barry Allen.

Hal Jordan is still better than Kyle Rayner and fuck Emerald Dawn.

 

[MirrorNoir]

Why, don't deny our own @FROG his credit. He proudly holds himself as the destroyer of twenty years of story in order to bring back Barry Allen.

Hal Jordan is still better than Kyle Rayner and fuck Emerald Dawn.

Confusing things: Emerald Twilight is what you are thinking of, as Emerald Dawn was a mini-series that at least gave us Emerald Dawn II, which set the stage for Sinestro being a shades of grey villain.

 

[Miniluv]

Why, don't deny our own @FROG his credit. He proudly holds himself as the destroyer of twenty years of story in order to bring back Barry Allen.

Hal Jordan is still better than Kyle Rayner and fuck Emerald Dawn.

I liked Rayner fine and I understand he wasn't everyone's cup of tea, but I also liked John Stewart and Guy (the Warrior shit notwithstanding). Either of them would have been a better full time GL. At least you don't have to retcon Guy Gardner's past to make him interesting.

ETA: Relegating Wally to the dustbin of history is a fucking travesty.

 

[Newman's Own]

Ellis bullied beta cucks and sleezed over mentally ill women. He'd be in his element in CG.

Agreed.

But that's not true. He did prey on people. He abused access and power for sexual favors. It wasn't criminal, but it was disgusting and along the lines of Harvey Weinstein.

Men using their position to have sex with women who want something in return is skeezy but it isn't abuse. Men with power fucking groupies begging to be fucked is skeezy too but it isn't abuse. Ghosting someone because you got bored is skeezy but it's not abuse. Adopting a dominant roll with a willing and submissive partner is not abuse.

If men with power stopped having transactional or groupie sex the first people to complain would be the women who later call themselves victims. Sure these guys aren't admirable, but they aren't predators.

Gwyneth Paltrow fucked Weinstein for a part, won an Oscar and called herself a victim. She's not.

Maybe Weinstein raped girls. I doubt it. He's mostly just a sleaze bag and a pervert from what I've seen.

The average guy is going to hear some variant of "fuck off" a lot more than he's going to hear yes if he's gonna get a first date with anyone, even Warren Ellis is going to hear "no" from chicks in a forum devoted to worshiping him.

you'd think he'd be talking about those kinds of books. Like Swamp Thing. But when he talks about them; he means Anne Nocenti shit.

I always get a kick out of Meyer sucking Nocenti's cock. Nocenti wrote overtly political in your face social justice garbage in her run on DareDevil and other books. The books were fun and JRJR's art was fun but her leftist bias shone brighter than the sun in her preachy stories.

Meyer says he's against this shit but all his favorite writers write this shit.

I'd think he was trolling both sides if I thought he had enough self awareness to be insincere.

Basically, Ellis tried to pull his moves on a healthy, confident woman who told him to fuck off.

If every guy who gets told to fuck off when he makes moves on a healthy confident woman is a predator than any man with the sack to make a move on a woman he doesn't know is a predator.

Sure, broken women are more likely to say yes more often but that doesn't make the guy who asks 'a predator on broken women'.

My disgust has far less to do with what they're doing to Ellis (who I couldn't GAS about), but more than what they didn't do with Perez.

I get Meyer is regarded as a goofball in this sphere, but holy shit... wishing him to being violently torn apart by an IED? Come on now. This shows Image has no moral integrity. Pure SJW virtue signaling.

That's some cancel culture bullshit. You sound just like an SJW.

"Perez said a mean thing!!!"
"Words are violence!!!!"
"We have to protect Richard from the meanie who said she wished he was dead!!!!!!!!!!!"
"THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!"

Listen to yourself.

Ellis, Perez and Meyer should all be left alone by cancel culture douche bags on both sides of the argument.

Retarded.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Why, don't deny our own @FROG his credit. He proudly holds himself as the destroyer of twenty years of story in order to bring back Barry Allen.

OG Gayop

 

[A nameless trool]

I always get a kick out of Meyer sucking Nocenti's cock. Nocenti wrote overtly political in your face social justice garbage in her run on DareDevil and other books. The books were fun and JRJR's art was fun but her leftist bias shone brighter than the sun in her preachy stories.

Meyer says he's against this shit but all his favorite writers write this shit.

I'd think he was trolling both sides if I thought he had enough self awareness to be insincere.

YBZ's mantra has always been "It's not funny, it's not fun". SJW comics are not blamed for being political, they are blamed for being bland - Or Gabby's America that was definetely not bland but the comics version of The Room and also the modern version of some third tier Liefeld comic like Bludwulf or ShotKill.

If every guy who gets told to fuck off when he makes moves on a healthy confident woman is a predator than any man with the sack to make a move on a woman he doesn't know is a predator.

Sure, broken women are more likely to say yes more often but that doesn't make the guy who asks 'a predator on broken women'.

Thank you for restating my point.

 

[Miniluv]

Men using their position to have sex with women who want something in return is skeezy but it isn't abuse. Men with power fucking groupies begging to be fucked is skeezy too but it isn't abuse. Ghosting someone because you got bored is skeezy but it's not abuse. Adopting a dominant roll with a willing and submissive partner is not abuse.

If men with power stopped having transactional or groupie sex the first people to complain would be the women who later call themselves victims. Sure these guys aren't admirable, but they aren't predators.

And the lion's share of what Ellis is accused of doing is shit that happened on the fucking internet. I think Zack pointed out that out of over 100 accusers only 4 actually shared physical space with him at some point and they aren't saying he raped or assaulted them. Laughable bullshit that doesn't compare with the sexual sleaze your average touring musician engages in, and I'm not even talking about top name rock stars.

It can't be overstated that many of these women complained because he stopped paying attention.

If every guy who gets told to fuck off when he makes moves on a healthy confident woman is a predator than any man with the sack to make a move on a woman he doesn't know is a predator.

Sure, broken women are more likely to say yes more often but that doesn't make the guy who asks 'a predator on broken women'.

It doesn't make him a psychic either. We all tend to try and put our best foot forward when we're meeting someone for the first time. Putting all your damage out front right away is not conducive to getting laid or getting a date. The idea that these women begin talking to their favorite comic writer and start off with a list of all their insecurities and trauma seems a little off. I will say that perhaps Ellis' personal fetishes probably already lent themselves to women that have some kind of deep damage (the fixation on body modification being a big indicator) but that's not a concrete sign of being "broken".

It's almost like they don't think Ellis had any business being interested in sex with women that weren't at or above his level of income, status, or psychological health. Maybe he should have had them fill out applications.

 

[Captain Manning]

The other thing that was really bad was the whole [people are saying bad things about Vikki and Dean but I'm not going to say what the bad things are because I'm against "drama"] was really sleazy. I would guess that this view of VIkki & Dean is driven mostly by old memories rather than anything current. He probably still believes they are big enemies of FROG in addition to the YF & TUG stuff.

I don't know if it's worth rehashing, but yes, there was some drama between TUG, Nick, and Vikki.

I don't think FROG has anything to do with it considering that FROG seems to have buried the hatchet with Vikki and Dean. He even went as far as to say Vikki was right about the Ribbitcoin.

The "issue" with Vikki seems to be that she calls out grifters, and is pretty effective at it. I am basically not surprised Nick said something like this considering that TUG and YF still have his ear. TUG, in particular, is a grifter of the first order. Nick hangs out with some really wretched people.

That's some cancel culture bullshit. You sound just like an SJW.

No. It's just that I'm simply not that big of an asshole. Sorry. Even as a Kiwi, there's some things that I won't say. Wishing a horrible death on somebody is one (exceptions made for actual pedos like Lamont). I'll make fun of Meyer the same as everybody else here, but I won't go there. I have been accused, on occasion, of being maybe too nice for this site.

Sue me.

Besides, nowhere did I say "she" should be cancelled. I think the point here is that we have a situation where Image has made clear they're not above involving themselves in drama. The truly distasteful bit is that they'll cancel for one wrong thing, but not another. It's the lack of consistency that irks me most. Indeed, if they didn't do anything with Ellis, I would have not brought up Perez. It happened forever ago. I would have simply figured that maybe they're just adverse to drama in general.

 

[Newman's Own]

Besides, nowhere did I say "she" should be cancelled.

My disgust has far less to do with what they're doing to Ellis (who I couldn't GAS about), but more than what they didn't do with Perez.

Your words.

Like I said, "retarded".

The truly distasteful bit is that they'll cancel for one wrong thing, but not another. It's the lack of consistency that irks me most.

The truly distasteful bit is the assholes who don't have a problem with, or even enjoy, the destruction of people because of edgy tweets or edgy sexual conduct.

You cancel culture sympathizers are as bad as the religious people who do the same shit.

Self righteous moral busy bodies.

If your parents had chosen anal instead the night you were conceived the world would be richer for it and your father a much happier man, Captain.

Thankfully you aren't anywhere near capable of canceling me in your outrage for stating this eternal truth.

 

[Captain Manning]

Your words.

Like I said, "retarded".

I would not consider distancing myself from somebody's ill chosen words to be "cancelation." Which is basically where I was going with that. Image could have simply given the boilerplate (and reasonable, IMO) "we don't agree, and her views do not represent ours" response. Nowhere did I say her publishing deal with Image should have been scrapped. I don't advocate for her receiving the Ellis treatment.

But you do you, Newman. I can't bring myself to be quite as spiteful and angry at people obiting CG as you often are. I've been on this site long enough to know there are people outside of CG that are much MUCH more deserving of such vitriol. The players in this thread are positively milquetoast in comparison.

Thankfully you aren't anywhere near capable of canceling me in your outrage for stating this eternal truth.

Nobody wants to cancel you.

 

[jspit2.0]

Confusing things: Emerald Twilight is what you are thinking of, as Emerald Dawn was a mini-series that at least gave us Emerald Dawn II, which set the stage for Sinestro being a shades of grey villain.

True, everything from crisis on was Emerald/something.

I liked Rayner fine and I understand he wasn't everyone's cup of tea,

He became fine after Rebirth and when Morrison had him generic green lantern guy in his JLA run. He was insufferable in Marz's run where they had to tear down every other GL to make him special.

That's the difference I don't like about lumping Barry with Hal. Barry's legacy wasn't being an unbalanced mass murderer. His successor was his nephew protege who idolized him for over twenty years. The two aren't the same.

but I also liked John Stewart and Guy (the Warrior shit notwithstanding). Either of them would have been a better full time GL. At least you don't have to retcon Guy Gardner's past to make him interesting.

Than Rayner, yes. Kyle was the least of the five/six (depends if you can't Jade) earth lanterns pre flashpoint.

ETA: Relegating Wally to the dustbin of history is a fucking travesty.

But hey! At least we got Kyle as space Jesus.

Men using their position to have sex with women who want something in return is skeezy but it isn't abuse.

It is when they are in a position of authority and power. The implicit understanding is play ball or the powerful man will be mad at you.

Men with power fucking groupies begging to be fucked is skeezy too but it isn't abuse.

The groupie analogy is bad, because these weren't just fangirls. That's bad enough. Taking advantage of groupies is scummy.

The second category is the MeToo ones. The aspiring artist who wants to get into comics. Warren hints that he knows an that editor at Marvel she's talking to while hitting on her. It's about a power dynamic that takes it to that next, abusive level. Just how much was Warren name dropping and pressuring women? It's a bad situation brought about by a corrupt industry.

Ghosting someone because you got bored is skeezy but it's not abuse. Adopting a dominant roll with a willing and submissive partner is not abuse.

No, but that's the problem with MeToo being all about power and politics. Legitimate abuses get swept in with bullshit. Believe all woman and that shit.

The answer is to go through and strain out the bullshit. Under this mountain of butthurt bitches there appears to be a powerful creep who took advantage of women. The answer isn't cancellation. But it should lead to serious rethinking of corporate policies and if I was one of the companies he used, I'd be pissed.

If men with power stopped having transactional or groupie sex the first people to complain would be the women who later call themselves victims. Sure these guys aren't admirable, but they aren't predators.

They are, by definition, when preying on people less powerful than them. It's coercing your secretary to have sex with you.

Gwyneth Paltrow fucked Weinstein for a part, won an Oscar and called herself a victim. She's not.

Maybe Weinstein raped girls. I doubt it. He's mostly just a sleaze bag and a pervert from what I've seen.

I want you to reflect on that for a moment.

What you described isn't rape. But yes, it is very wrong.

A woman shouldn't have to fuck a fat, balding liberal pig to get a fucking job. That's grotesque

The average guy is going to hear some variant of "fuck off" a lot more than he's going to hear yes if he's gonna get a first date with anyone, even Warren Ellis is going to hear "no" from chicks in a forum devoted to worshiping him.

Work! Is not! Tinder!

Warren Ellis was not at a fucking bar or in a dressing room. He was on a message board about the profession of making comics. That so many entered the comics industry's big Two through that board makes it all the worse.

I always get a kick out of Meyer sucking Nocenti's cock. Nocenti wrote overtly political in your face social justice garbage in her run on DareDevil and other books. The books were fun and JRJR's art was fun but her leftist bias shone brighter than the sun in her preachy stories.

Were they? I got burned out quick on her Daredevil and her DC work has mostly been shit. I'll take your word as Nocenti is a weak spot of mine. I rarely give up but damn if the bitch didn't beat me.

That's some cancel culture bullshit. You sound just like an SJW.

"Perez said a mean thing!!!"
"Words are violence!!!!"
"We have to protect Richard from the meanie who said she wished he was dead!!!!!!!!!!!"
"THE HORROR!!!!!!!!!!!"

Listen to yourself.

Ellis, Perez and Meyer should all be left alone by cancel culture douche bags on both sides of the argument.

Retarded.

I don't know about Cancel Culture. If I had to compare them....

My problem with Ellis was he was doing this in his role as a professional while Perez was being a sleaze on his own time. Perez said a mean thing, Ellis may have coerced mental ill women into sex with work.

Honestly it's rotten apples and oranges.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

Fresh feud drama stream in CG. This time Frog vs. Heels, probably another put-on?

 

[Greed]

Fresh feud drama stream in CG. This time Frog vs. Heels, probably another put-on?

This might be a new low for Frog streams.
Malin is present, in full tryhard cringelord mode and overflowing with smug indifference, doing his absolute best to suck any potential humor out of every topic that comes up like it's his job.
Narwhal shows up and everybody has to pretend to be impressed by him for the duration of his stay. He ruminates about a comic idea that's basically "Juno" but with aliens. Remember folks, Comicsgate takes comics seriously.
In an attempt to spark morale, Frog starts talking about "Comicsgate vs Manga", which has the unintended effect of reminding everyone just how small and insignificant his fan club is in comparison with a medium people actually care about.
Sprinkle in the "I'm gonna cum" clip every ten minutes and you have a basic approximation of this stream.

Here's a weird thought: Frog recently mentioned that he hasn't actually seen Dale Keown in years. Despite supposedly joining CG months ago, I have yet to see Dale actually appear on a stream.
Is there any proof this is actually Dale Keown he's been talking to?

 

[Miniluv]

Work! Is not! Tinder!

Warren Ellis was not at a fucking bar or in a dressing room. He was on a message board about the profession of making comics. That so many entered the comics industry's big Two through that board makes it all the worse.

Ok, but he wasn't at work. The Warren Ellis Forum didn't have an HR department and if it did, it would have been Warren Ellis. He was called Stalin because he was absolute dictator of WEF and later The Engine, his personal internet fiefdoms.

WEF wasn't "about the profession of making comics" as much as it was about whatever Ellis wanted it to be about. Ellis was the supreme and final authority over any and all topics of discussion. Comics and the making of comics were discussed, yes, but it was mainly a forum for people who liked Warren Ellis and wanted to be in his internet presence.

He didn't start it because he wanted people to learn the ins and outs of making comics. He wanted his audience to hear whatever his opinion was on whatever he wanted to talk about whether it was music, sex, television, politics, or the latest article in Scientific American he planned on mining for story ideas. Users could be banished for any number of reasons or no reason at all. The only rules were Stalin's rules. If it were strictly a "message board about the profession of making comics" then the users posting nudes with "WARREN" scrawled across their tits and asses would have been banned instead of becoming a phenomenon so common that Heidi MacDonald called it "annoying" and "cloying". This sort of sexually charged fawning over the "Love Swami" was part of the culture of the forum and his mostly female moderators knew it. Every user on that board wanted Ellis' attention or approval and they all wanted to avoid his ire. If a user wanted senpai to notice and couldn't get his attention with their wit or talent, they got it with their bodies.

WEF and The Engine were built around the personality of Warren Ellis and that's what they were about first and foremost. If you went in thinking you were going to sit at the feet of the master and learn about making comics professionally, you would be rather disappointed.

 

[Newman's Own]

Nobody wants to cancel you.

True enough, but if someone did I'm sure you'd have an SJW line ready about "consequences" for the action of implying someone should never have been born.

It's not much different than whining that ones favorite YooToober was victimized by a shitty comment about an IED.

Were they? I got burned out quick on her Daredevil and her DC work has mostly been shit. I'll take your word as Nocenti is a weak spot of mine. I rarely give up but damn if the bitch didn't beat me.

Yeah, 'heroes are no better than criminals' stuff. Her first story was about how Sabertooth was not such a bad guy and DareDevil's use of violence made him no better than the homicidal killer (sort of).

But the most obvious thing was her constant harping that poor people were perpetual victims who couldn't rise above their station because the (capitalist) system was to big and powerful. CRT without the race component because that wasn't in fashion in social justice circles at the time. https://comicsverse.com/ann-nocenti-daredevil/

And then there's the Batman story she did with EVS.


I quit reading DareDevil around the same time, probably for the same reason you did. I realized on some level I was being preached to.

It's a shame to. Frank Miller was supposed to carry on after the incredible Born Again arc and the book probably would have gone a much much different direction. But that all went pare shaped...

It is when they are in a position of authority and power.

What authority? As admin of the forum? As someone who could help them with their career? Ellis was exercising the power to do favors for people. Is there some proof that he was making threats or intentionally ruining lives that I missed?

The groupie analogy is bad, because these weren't just fangirls. That's bad enough. Taking advantage of groupies is scummy.

Yeah, they were fangirls and women who hoped to trade for something.

"Taking advantage of groupies is scummy." Groupies would disagree with you. Don't ignore they're "agency".

If they are free adults their bad decisions belong to them, not the moral majority and not the stars they fuck.

The aspiring artist who wants to get into comics. Warren hints that he knows an that editor at Marvel she's talking to while hitting on her.

An aspiring artist wants to get into comics. She flirts with Warren. Warren, knowing this, plays along because he wants to get laid.

A carpenter who wanted to fuck a friend of mine built her a deck trying to get into her pants. He was using his power to try to get laid. She wasn't a victim in this scenario.

An actress fucks a writer because he just sold a screenplay, has a producing credit on the upcoming film and says he can talk to casting on her behalf. The actress is not a victim either.

Usually sleazy behavior is consensual. Get over it.

It's coercing your secretary to have sex with you.

Was Warren Ellis coercing women who worked for him?

Transactional sex is sleazy, but it's not coercive.

A woman shouldn't have to fuck a fat, balding liberal pig to get a fucking job. That's grotesque

And no woman had to. She might want to though, if it's the difference between him bothering to help her or not.

Work Is not Tinder

Warren Ellis's internet hug box forum was not his work. It was an extremely social environment where he met new like minded people who wanted to be closer to him. It was a Hell of a lot closer to Tinder than it was to any work environment.

My problem with Ellis was he was doing this in his role as a professional while Perez was being a sleaze on his own time.

He was doing this in a social microcosm that made him a rock-star in his own little corner of the internet. He fucked around with groupies and clout seekers. Not victims and not employees.

These people Ellis "preyed upon" were only different from the likes of Wenger, Nasser, JDA, Mr Bigguns and all the other hangers on in that they were trading sexual gratification for opportunity, clout or validation.

Big fuckin' deal.

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

This might be a new low for Frog streams.
Malin is present, in full tryhard cringelord mode and overflowing with smug indifference, doing his absolute best to suck any potential humor out of every topic that comes up like it's his job.
Narwhal shows up and everybody has to pretend to be impressed by him for the duration of his stay. He ruminates about a comic idea that's basically "Juno" but with aliens. Remember folks, Comicsgate takes comics seriously.
In an attempt to spark morale, Frog starts talking about "Comicsgate vs Manga", which has the unintended effect of reminding everyone just how small and insignificant his fan club is in comparison with a medium people actually care about.
Sprinkle in the "I'm gonna cum" clip every ten minutes and you have a basic approximation of this stream.

Here's a weird thought: Frog recently mentioned that he hasn't actually seen Dale Keown in years. Despite supposedly joining CG months ago, I have yet to see Dale actually appear on a stream.
Is there any proof this is actually Dale Keown he's been talking to?

I like Frog but distinctly remember hearing him call Az out by name and it wasn't any misunderstanding the meaning of words. I tried to find the stream last night but couldn't