General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

I don't know what HoloLive's overhead is like, but just their share of Coco's all-time SC revenue covers 10% of the investment capital. Having just one of the revenue streams from just one of the numerous talents (admittedly, the largest of such revenue streams), cover a noticeable chunk of the investment seems like a good position to be in. And I suspect that the Real Money for the investors comes from the advertising collabs like the Nissin Ramen commercial.

On the subject of crazy gachikoi and stalkers, I do find it interesting that no one, especially not the Rosetai, ever flips out publicly about Aki doing in-person collabs with a guy.
 
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Thomas Talus said:
On the subject of crazy gachikoi and stalkers, I do find it interesting that no one, especially not the Rosetai, ever flips out publicly about Aki doing in-person collabs with a guy.
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Us Rosetai have refined enough taste and are mature enough to not have autistic shitfits about it.

Jokes aside, it's likely because she's a JP Holo with a majority western fanbase who's a lot less retarded about that kind of thing, after all we were the one's that basically saved Towa when the gachikois went crazy on her.
 
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kuuu said:
From what I understood reading the thread around when Mel had her case, it's not even about agency helping/not helping. It's about their weird ass laws that police's hands are tied unless something directly incriminating happens.
Fuck. Anytime a talent graduates I'm hopeful that it's them hopping on a higher branch. But so far it has been a big fat nope.
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If they really wanted to they can crack down on such crimes they can. Take what they did to Carlos Ghosn, former Chairman of Nissan (I think he still currently is the CEO for Renault). Under Japanese law, prosecutors can only detain you for X days after arrest but they just kept charging and re-arresting him for new crimes until they can find more evidence. Lulu's case is unfortunately just one of many over there, whether they're VTubers, non-VTuber streamers or common folk even.
 
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EDIT: Where did the hate for Lulu stem from? Just general haters or did something else went down that I missed?
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Just general haters like most vtubers get I assume. Lulu was unlucky and got the really schizo antis. I don't have my roommate info about her on hand but I remember she had sort of a Kson-Coco incident which directs more shitheads towards her easily.
 
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Thomas Talus said:
On the subject of crazy gachikoi and stalkers, I do find it interesting that no one, especially not the Rosetai, ever flips out publicly about Aki doing in-person collabs with a guy.
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Because we Rosen Ritter are cultured mature adult gentlemen who die inside when we see her remind us we'll never have her.
 
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Wandering Lurker said:
Translation from the Lulu discord that's being spread around. Take with a grain of salt if you want. "Letter of Challenge" is a slang term for Letters with death threats.

Her reason for graduating was because of a few insane stalkers/gachikois continued to harass her roommate even after the issues from February were dealt with.
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Before people start on the "lmao Anycolor/Nijisanji said they'd protect their vtubers what happen?" Tribalist shit. They did what they could. It all just sucks.



Her general attitude and the fact she never really collabed with male livers outside of events built up insane faggot unicorn "SHE WILL BE MINE" gachikoi. She doesn't have to be a traditional idol to attract those kinds of scum.
I would've been sad but accepting if it really was just burnout from streaming but I just feel like I've been fucking robbed and now I'm pissed and sad.
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Whose her roommate and what happened in February
 
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Mainly speculating, but who knows maybe I'm underestimating simp power

Jesus what a sad way to go compared to Coco. What the fuck is wrong with people? And this is happening to a non-idol talent, just imagine what people in the idol industry have to put up with.
EDIT: Where did the hate for Lulu stem from? Just general haters or did something else went down that I missed?
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I don't get why people do that too, there are people out there that I hate, but I don't go out there bullying them, since I'm a mature fucking adult who knows the best course is to simply ignore them or, if you really wanna vent, just go and type a lot of shit about them and never post it online.

Even here I simply talk shit about them in the threads and never contact them to harass them. Some people really suck!

Protistology said:
Because we Rosen Ritter are cultured mature adult gentlemen who die inside when we see her remind us we'll never have her.
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Exactly! Also, a bit of fantasy never hurts. Even old men delight in it, whoever says they don't is saving face or lying. What isn't natural is living in fantasy, like Chris Chan does.
 
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Since there will be a mass of people offing themselves today and tomorrow (If you're both a Lulufag and Cocofag would you off yourself twice? How does that work?), here's a TLDR of the important points in Lulu's graduation stream.

  • Membership content is wiped at the moment of writing this. If you haven't learnt to archive then tough luck.
  • Normal content will remains for at least the next 6 months. There is possibility that certain past streams will be removed but a full wipe is unlikely.
  • Merch and voice sale stopped. Her marshmallow also closed but she will be accepting fan letters until the end of July.
  • She needs constant visit to the hospital so her conditions won't worsen. However, her physical conditions isn't the primary reason for her graduation.
  • As many have said, it's because she received threatening letter that lead to her hiatus. The police got involved and it got resolved. However, they wasn't able to deal with it completely and letters doesn't stop coming.
  • She considered other options, but chose to graduate out of her own will. Primary reasons being she doesn't want to make everyone worry about constant hiatus dealing with those threats while slowing her coworkers down with her circumstances.
  • She learnt to love herself through streaming, so she wants you to remembers her and be happy. Look at this in a more positive light instead of ending it on a sour note.
  • Even if the letters were the reason she graduates, she didn't graduate because she hates her listeners. Even in the end, she was happy that she was able to become a vtuber, and wished every vtuber, not just nijisanji, to do well from here on. She had nothing but gratitude for both talents and fans.
  • Finally, this is a formal request from Suzuhara Lulu. Do not bring up her name in other livers stream. If you ever feel sad or lonely, tweet using her hashtag. Her twitter activities will stop but she'll keep looking at those
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Rough translation below.

I was clueless when I first debuted. I don't know anything from thumbnails, obs to chroma key. I'm really grateful for the listeners who watched over that me kindly. Now, my initial anxiety had gone, and I was able to do every thing that I wanted to do to the best of my abilities, thank you to everyone who always looks forward to it. I've grown to love the free chatting that I'm terrible with, thanks to everyone encouraging and supporting me. Every moments was truly precious and irreplaceable, Thank you for spending your valuable time on me. I wish that you will have more happy, wonderful moments from now on.
Thank you very much.
 
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moments fade pain remains said:
Look dude, I get it. Coco tends to be on a lot of people minds, including mine. I appreciate the fact that you tried to be sympathetic on our autism, but don't get influenced by the numberfagging because then you act in a negative manner. For me, today is Lulu (I hate how I didn't start watching her sooner), tomorrow is Coco. Yes, numberfagging sucks, but just because one person made a weak link in logic with a Lulu and Coco comparison, doesn't mean you have to write shit like that. June is a sad month, doesn't have to get worse.
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You’re right. Sorry, all. I was depressed and I handled it poorly.
 
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moments fade pain remains said:
On July 2nd, 20:00 JST, Roberu and Rikka will have a 3D collab. I really do hope that they fixed Roberu's shoulders like he said they would.
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They did actually, Roberu did a 3D live recently but on Holostars channel and it looks a lot better now. It doesn't look as droopy anymore and I can't really tell but I think his mouth flaps don't look as weird too? It could be just me but still.

 
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Not A Vampire said:
They did actually, Roberu did a 3D live recently but on Holostars channel and it looks a lot better now. It doesn't look as droopy anymore and I can't really tell but I think his mouth flaps don't look as weird too? It could be just me but still.

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How did I miss this? From a first look, he looks so much better. Winning son is winning!
 
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Nolan Crush said:
Welp it's official. Gura is the #1 most subscribed to VTuber, making her the most popular VTuber in the world. CONGRATULATIONS GURA! You've worked very hard these past 10 months and I'd say you very much deserve this. May you continue to grow for a very long time.Nothing can stop best shark
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Hopefully guratard would stop numberfagging everytime she gain 10k sub now that she already surpassed Kizuna Ai in terms of subs.
 
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SmugPeko said:
Hopefully guratard would stop numberfagging everytime she gain 10k sub now that she already surpassed Kizuna Ai in terms of subs.
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Yeah, no point in it now. Just celebrate the shark getting 3 mill when she does.
And I don't think I'm numberfagging, just congratulating someone on something they should be proud of
 
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So from what I'm hearing the ARK collab is a tearjerker... Not sure if I wanna at least skim thru it and watch the highlights because I just know I'll be an emotional wreck for Coco's grad stream if I do
 
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