SCP Foundation - Creepypasta with roid rage - now ITT: SCP fans

Sorry for the doublepost, but given the recent attack and day since the last post, I don't feel too bad about it. Anyway, these two questions have been asked before, but not very recently or at the same time.



But do you think the SCP Wiki can be fixed, and even if it is possible, should it be fixed?



For my own two bits on it, I think in some rare scenario where everything goes according to someone's plan, yes, the critical issues surrounding the wiki could be staunched. But then that doesn't repair the more long-term issues, namely the fact the SCP wiki is simply put, dying. We'd be putting off what has been happening for a very long time, and I think this thread has several signs to show just that, that the SCP wiki keeps finding skeletons in the closet, old controversies coming to light, drama crawling out of whatever hole it's been hiding in. It's lasting long enough for there to be lasting damage- you can go to any discussion page or O5 thread and see the lines drawn in the sand, between the wiki and the rest of the internet, between the wiki's staff and the wiki's users, between staff and staff. It's breaking apart.



Second major issue I see is that the SCP Foundation is no longer a wiki. It's moved on from website, to community, to idea, to a concept. Not only does the SCP Wiki no longer have a monopoly on community-written containment fiction (if it ever did), it no longer has a monopoly on itself. YouTube videos, Tumblr blogs, art pages, all under the banner of the SCP Foundation. It's become so big that despite the fact several users have become so entrenched in the many different sub-communities of the Foundation, they can't seem to control it all, not to say they're conspiring to, but the fact stands that the Wiki no longer controls the Foundation.



Also I'd like to clarify something I said earlier, that it is the SCP Wiki that is dying, not the Foundation. The former doesn't have much longer, a decade or even less, but the latter is going to last a very long time, in one way or another. At the very least, containment fiction has found itself becoming a legitimate genre if it wasn't already.



My personal prediction is that the Wiki is going to last, oh, let's say 5 years, probably more, but maybe less, before some major internal divide forms over some drama, with sides being picked and factions forming as the users latch onto leaders and follow them to whatever stance they see fit to take. Several new wikis are formed, all claiming to be the rightful successor, etc etc, some major authors pick a place to settle and that forms the primordial bedrock that the little communities grow from. The original wiki stays, but so many were lost that it slowly, quietly, fades away. In 10, maybe 15, but likely 20 years, the SCP wiki exists, but it is something wholly alien to what we have now. The little communities are devoured by the larger ones until we have a new series of robust wikis that came out stronger.



Maybe that wouldn't be so bad. Maybe because to a lesser degree, it already happened. The exodus we saw earlier with the RPC wiki and the other ones is what will happen again in microcosm. Yes, it was devastating (for internet drama), and several parties came out arguably worse, but the creative outburst that came of it, the articles that were produced as the new communities used their newfound freedom, was pretty cool. Even the SCP Wiki had a rush of energy as the new rivalry invigorated it just that much, although "rivalry" probably isn't the right word. But I doubt it'll be much longer. If it lasts, it stagnates. If it falls, it'll be a strange sort of dark age for a little while before it recovers, scattered but new, invigorated, and arguably tougher than before. I wouldn't mind that.



Or sure, if Harmony is correct, Rounderhouse coups the administration of the Wiki and forms a highly militarized autocracy that effectively integrates the wikis it conquers. It dedicates its registered users to something higher than themselves- to the idea of SCP itself. Long-term stability at all costs. The author has no value beyond his utility to the Wiki, whether as an instrument of drama, or production. His death in 2281 from a brain tumor leads to his most devoted followers enshrining his body on the front page for two days before the next contest, while his trusted Legate Kaktus travels west to conquer the despotic remains of the RPC Republic, the armies and votebots of the Legion close behind. Moderation, unforgiving as it was, had finally come to the Wikidot Wasteland.
I don't think the wiki is going to fracture any more than it already has. Even the people who are threatening to quit over recent drama like Kaktus don't really seem like they want to form a new wiki should the current one die off.

I think that the current drama is either going to lead to the upheaval of the current staff and structure, or the death of the wiki as all the talent quits and moves to other places. As for where they'll go, I think they'll either move to the smaller communities for containment fiction that already exist (Wanderer's Library, SCP Commune, maybe even RPC) or go do things unrelated to containment fiction (I could see Kaktus trying to get published). It's possible that staff will finally figure out what the fuck is going on with their community and turn things around, but somehow I doubt it.
 
Sorry for the doublepost, but given the recent attack and day since the last post, I don't feel too bad about it. Anyway, these two questions have been asked before, but not very recently or at the same time.



But do you think the SCP Wiki can be fixed, and even if it is possible, should it be fixed?



For my own two bits on it, I think in some rare scenario where everything goes according to someone's plan, yes, the critical issues surrounding the wiki could be staunched. But then that doesn't repair the more long-term issues, namely the fact the SCP wiki is simply put, dying. We'd be putting off what has been happening for a very long time, and I think this thread has several signs to show just that, that the SCP wiki keeps finding skeletons in the closet, old controversies coming to light, drama crawling out of whatever hole it's been hiding in. It's lasting long enough for there to be lasting damage- you can go to any discussion page or O5 thread and see the lines drawn in the sand, between the wiki and the rest of the internet, between the wiki's staff and the wiki's users, between staff and staff. It's breaking apart.



Second major issue I see is that the SCP Foundation is no longer a wiki. It's moved on from website, to community, to idea, to a concept. Not only does the SCP Wiki no longer have a monopoly on community-written containment fiction (if it ever did), it no longer has a monopoly on itself. YouTube videos, Tumblr blogs, art pages, all under the banner of the SCP Foundation. It's become so big that despite the fact several users have become so entrenched in the many different sub-communities of the Foundation, they can't seem to control it all, not to say they're conspiring to, but the fact stands that the Wiki no longer controls the Foundation.



Also I'd like to clarify something I said earlier, that it is the SCP Wiki that is dying, not the Foundation. The former doesn't have much longer, a decade or even less, but the latter is going to last a very long time, in one way or another. At the very least, containment fiction has found itself becoming a legitimate genre if it wasn't already.



My personal prediction is that the Wiki is going to last, oh, let's say 5 years, probably more, but maybe less, before some major internal divide forms over some drama, with sides being picked and factions forming as the users latch onto leaders and follow them to whatever stance they see fit to take. Several new wikis are formed, all claiming to be the rightful successor, etc etc, some major authors pick a place to settle and that forms the primordial bedrock that the little communities grow from. The original wiki stays, but so many were lost that it slowly, quietly, fades away. In 10, maybe 15, but likely 20 years, the SCP wiki exists, but it is something wholly alien to what we have now. The little communities are devoured by the larger ones until we have a new series of robust wikis that came out stronger.



Maybe that wouldn't be so bad. Maybe because to a lesser degree, it already happened. The exodus we saw earlier with the RPC wiki and the other ones is what will happen again in microcosm. Yes, it was devastating (for internet drama), and several parties came out arguably worse, but the creative outburst that came of it, the articles that were produced as the new communities used their newfound freedom, was pretty cool. Even the SCP Wiki had a rush of energy as the new rivalry invigorated it just that much, although "rivalry" probably isn't the right word. But I doubt it'll be much longer. If it lasts, it stagnates. If it falls, it'll be a strange sort of dark age for a little while before it recovers, scattered but new, invigorated, and arguably tougher than before. I wouldn't mind that.



Or sure, if Harmony is correct, Rounderhouse coups the administration of the Wiki and forms a highly militarized autocracy that effectively integrates the wikis it conquers. It dedicates its registered users to something higher than themselves- to the idea of SCP itself. Long-term stability at all costs. The author has no value beyond his utility to the Wiki, whether as an instrument of drama, or production. His death in 2281 from a brain tumor leads to his most devoted followers enshrining his body on the front page for two days before the next contest, while his trusted Legate Kaktus travels west to conquer the despotic remains of the RPC Republic, the armies and votebots of the Legion close behind. Moderation, unforgiving as it was, had finally come to the Wikidot Wasteland.
The SCP Wiki grows less and less relevant as the people driving the car can barely find common ground inside the vehicle, much less between it and the pedestrian fans. You could cut the layered tension and resentment like a cake.

Since they can’t control the ranks of their own staff, let alone the power users, they raised the age limit in a bit of implied victim blaming given at least one known predator is still out openly and conceivably able to act with impunity. This and other examples of their hypocrisy have been noted in this thread ad nauseum.

Most of their audience is in that young age bracket and with the chilling effect caused by their exclusion not to mention SCPs growing unsavory reputation will lead them to grow into adult writers in more niche containment fiction communities should they find the fiction’s form compelling.

The youth movement of containment fiction, the future, is no longer going to be found on the SCP Wiki, for even the Wiki staff admit it’s not safe for the young to be there.
 
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Most of their audience is in that young age bracket and with the chilling effect caused by their exclusion not to mention SCPs growing unsavory reputation will lead them to grow into adult writers in more niche containment fiction communities should they find the fiction’s form compelling.

The youth movement of containment fiction, the future, is no longer going to be found on the SCP Wiki, for even the Wiki staff admit it’s not safe for the young to be there.
"Containment Fiction", as you call it, is hardly a movement nor particularly novel. "The government keeping tabs on paranormal activity" is an old trope that's not getting any more novel.
 
"Containment Fiction", as you call it, is hardly a movement nor particularly novel. "The government keeping tabs on paranormal activity" is an old trope that's not getting any more novel.
I would argue that the post-173 fiction based on organizations like the SCP Foundation is different from previous stories about the government interacting with paranormal things because the Foundation (and the Authority, and the many other barely-known variations that I'm sure exist) is solely dedicated to containing anomalous things, and isn't branching off from a government or anything like that. A lot of stories on the SCP wiki and about the Foundation examine how such an organization would interact with anomalies and the world at large, and I can't think of any other stories quite like those. The format used to tell many of these stories is novel, at the very least.

I'm not sure if I would call fiction based on and inspired by SCP a movement, but SCP itself is pretty undeniably a subcultural phenomenon, and a lot of people on the Internet have at least heard of it in passing. I think the ideas of SCP are going to outlast the wiki itself, and I think we'll continue to see fiction like SCP for a long time after the SCP wiki itself has declined in popularity.
 
I would argue that the post-173 fiction based on organizations like the SCP Foundation is different from previous stories about the government interacting with paranormal things because the Foundation (and the Authority, and the many other barely-known variations that I'm sure exist) is solely dedicated to containing anomalous things, and isn't branching off from a government or anything like that.
SCP is a lot more like one of the societies from Foucault's Pendulum, or Illuminatus! than standard X-Files type UFO shit, although with more than a dash of Lovecraft and a bunch of /x/ derived craziness.
 
I would argue that the post-173 fiction based on organizations like the SCP Foundation is different from previous stories about the government interacting with paranormal things because the Foundation (and the Authority, and the many other barely-known variations that I'm sure exist) is solely dedicated to containing anomalous things, and isn't branching off from a government or anything like that. A lot of stories on the SCP wiki and about the Foundation examine how such an organization would interact with anomalies and the world at large, and I can't think of any other stories quite like those. The format used to tell many of these stories is novel, at the very least.

I'm not sure if I would call fiction based on and inspired by SCP a movement, but SCP itself is pretty undeniably a subcultural phenomenon, and a lot of people on the Internet have at least heard of it in passing. I think the ideas of SCP are going to outlast the wiki itself, and I think we'll continue to see fiction like SCP for a long time after the SCP wiki itself has declined in popularity.
We'll see. I'm just not convinced SCP-fiction has the staying power some people think it does. It has fun concepts, but all things get old. All I'm saying is that SCP isn't exactly revolutionary, but it is unique. If SCP dies, I think it's more likely authors will just continue on as individuals, instead of acting as a collective.
 
We'll see. I'm just not convinced SCP-fiction has the staying power some people think it does. It has fun concepts, but all things get old.

You remind me of the people who say bitcoin is a bubble. Both have been around for over a decade now. I think confic has demonstrated its staying power. I agree with you otherwise here.
 
6kon is over, and the winner is Rounder. Congratulations to him, he deserved this win IMO.

Now, a brief review of every entry I read, for those who care. I'll try not to spoil too much, but these are still going to be under a spoiler tag just in case. These are arranged in order according to the placements they got in the contest.
First place: The Serpent, the Moose, and the Wanderer's Library - Rounderhouse

Pretty good. Interesting premise, executed well enough to keep me engaged throughout the entire thing, doesn't overstay its welcome. I enjoyed the twist on the usual "characters have to deal with the world ending" trope. Definitely one of Rounder's better articles, I'm happy that it won, would recommend reading.

Second place: The Demon Hector and the Dread Titania - djkaktus

I was being hyperbolic when I called this "massively overrated" earlier. I don't hate it as much as some of the other people in this thread, but I don't think it's very good either. I enjoyed some of the interviews, and everything from the exploration log to the end is pretty fun, but a huge chunk of this article is dedicated to an extended history lesson that just isn't that interesting. It's long, full of boring exposition, and not really worth the effort it takes to read despite having some enjoyable parts. Would not recommend reading.

Third place: The True Empire - stormbreath and aismallard

Pretty fun article, has a great twist that I really don't want to spoil here. Also an interesting interpretation of the theme. Would recommend reading.

Fifth place: Nearer, My God, To Thee - Elogee FishTruck

Parts of this feel like a retread of Lily's 001 proposal, but I think it does enough unique things to stand out. Short, would recommend reading.

Ninth place: Out There - UraniumEmpire

I've talked about this one already. It's good, would recommend reading.

Tenth place: Does the Red Moon Howl? - Dysadron

Really interesting concept, doesn't go where I thought it would at all, has some emotional punch. Would recommend reading.

34th place: An Ending - EstrellaYoshte

Another short one that does a lot with very little. Took a little bit to sink in for me, but I was very pleased when it did. Would recommend reading.
Unless I'm forgetting something, that should be all of them. Overall, I liked the ones that I read, but there's so many entries and a lot of them are very long, so I didn't bother to read a lot of the popular ones. This contest really shows how much SCP has ballooned in size over time, the Series just started and we're already almost a tenth of the way to the next one.
 
6kon is over, and the winner is Rounder. Congratulations to him, he deserved this win IMO.

Now, a brief review of every entry I read, for those who care. I'll try not to spoil too much, but these are still going to be under a spoiler tag just in case. These are arranged in order according to the placements they got in the contest.
First place: The Serpent, the Moose, and the Wanderer's Library - Rounderhouse

Pretty good. Interesting premise, executed well enough to keep me engaged throughout the entire thing, doesn't overstay its welcome. I enjoyed the twist on the usual "characters have to deal with the world ending" trope. Definitely one of Rounder's better articles, I'm happy that it won, would recommend reading.

Second place: The Demon Hector and the Dread Titania - djkaktus

I was being hyperbolic when I called this "massively overrated" earlier. I don't hate it as much as some of the other people in this thread, but I don't think it's very good either. I enjoyed some of the interviews, and everything from the exploration log to the end is pretty fun, but a huge chunk of this article is dedicated to an extended history lesson that just isn't that interesting. It's long, full of boring exposition, and not really worth the effort it takes to read despite having some enjoyable parts. Would not recommend reading.

Third place: The True Empire - stormbreath and aismallard

Pretty fun article, has a great twist that I really don't want to spoil here. Also an interesting interpretation of the theme. Would recommend reading.

Fifth place: Nearer, My God, To Thee - Elogee FishTruck

Parts of this feel like a retread of Lily's 001 proposal, but I think it does enough unique things to stand out. Short, would recommend reading.

Ninth place: Out There - UraniumEmpire

I've talked about this one already. It's good, would recommend reading.

Tenth place: Does the Red Moon Howl? - Dysadron

Really interesting concept, doesn't go where I thought it would at all, has some emotional punch. Would recommend reading.

34th place: An Ending - EstrellaYoshte

Another short one that does a lot with very little. Took a little bit to sink in for me, but I was very pleased when it did. Would recommend reading.
Unless I'm forgetting something, that should be all of them. Overall, I liked the ones that I read, but there's so many entries and a lot of them are very long, so I didn't bother to read a lot of the popular ones. This contest really shows how much SCP has ballooned in size over time, the Series just started and we're already almost a tenth of the way to the next one.
I actually read (well.. skimmed the ones that bored me to death) almost every one so I might do a write up as well.

The one thing that stuck out to me was how many of the articles feature the fucking fairies. And not just normal fairies, but specifically the -4000 fae. -4000 is interesting because it presents the fae as these otherworldly creatures with horrifying esoteric powers that you have to constantly watch your words around, whereas these contemporary renditions mostly flanderize them into a nature-aligned humanoid faction with some green text thrown in to try and associate itself with something way more interesting.
 
6kon is over, and the winner is Rounder. Congratulations to him, he deserved this win IMO.

Now, a brief review of every entry I read, for those who care. I'll try not to spoil too much, but these are still going to be under a spoiler tag just in case. These are arranged in order according to the placements they got in the contest.
First place: The Serpent, the Moose, and the Wanderer's Library - Rounderhouse

Pretty good. Interesting premise, executed well enough to keep me engaged throughout the entire thing, doesn't overstay its welcome. I enjoyed the twist on the usual "characters have to deal with the world ending" trope. Definitely one of Rounder's better articles, I'm happy that it won, would recommend reading.

Second place: The Demon Hector and the Dread Titania - djkaktus

I was being hyperbolic when I called this "massively overrated" earlier. I don't hate it as much as some of the other people in this thread, but I don't think it's very good either. I enjoyed some of the interviews, and everything from the exploration log to the end is pretty fun, but a huge chunk of this article is dedicated to an extended history lesson that just isn't that interesting. It's long, full of boring exposition, and not really worth the effort it takes to read despite having some enjoyable parts. Would not recommend reading.

Third place: The True Empire - stormbreath and aismallard

Pretty fun article, has a great twist that I really don't want to spoil here. Also an interesting interpretation of the theme. Would recommend reading.

Fifth place: Nearer, My God, To Thee - Elogee FishTruck

Parts of this feel like a retread of Lily's 001 proposal, but I think it does enough unique things to stand out. Short, would recommend reading.

Ninth place: Out There - UraniumEmpire

I've talked about this one already. It's good, would recommend reading.

Tenth place: Does the Red Moon Howl? - Dysadron

Really interesting concept, doesn't go where I thought it would at all, has some emotional punch. Would recommend reading.

34th place: An Ending - EstrellaYoshte

Another short one that does a lot with very little. Took a little bit to sink in for me, but I was very pleased when it did. Would recommend reading.
Unless I'm forgetting something, that should be all of them. Overall, I liked the ones that I read, but there's so many entries and a lot of them are very long, so I didn't bother to read a lot of the popular ones. This contest really shows how much SCP has ballooned in size over time, the Series just started and we're already almost a tenth of the way to the next one.
Lol, my prediction is right, Rounder wins 6000 contest. I haven't read any contest entries yet, thanks for the review.
 
I feel that your general criteria are leaaaagues more lenient than mine lololol. I think basically the same on the entries I read except I like them way less.
Keep in mind, I got partway through a bunch of these before getting bored and stopping. I tend to go for short fiction more, and it's hard for long articles to hold my attention. Kaktus's entry isn't the worst thing ever overall, but it's so fucking long that I can't recommend reading it for the good parts. I also didn't and won't bother to read Inevitable for this reason. It's easy for me to recommend short articles (which is basically every entry I read that wasn't by Kaktus, even Rounder's isn't that long by my standards) because even the ones that people end up hating still don't take that much time to read. Plus, my opinions in that post are a little oversimplified because I was trying to get it out before KF crashed again.
I actually read (well.. skimmed the ones that bored me to death) almost every one so I might do a write up as well.

The one thing that stuck out to me was how many of the articles feature the fucking fairies. And not just normal fairies, but specifically the -4000 fae. -4000 is interesting because it presents the fae as these otherworldly creatures with horrifying esoteric powers that you have to constantly watch your words around, whereas these contemporary renditions mostly flanderize them into a nature-aligned humanoid faction with some green text thrown in to try and associate itself with something way more interesting.
The 4000 entities are easy to include in nature-themed articles because they live in a forest, and I suspect that that's all the thought some of these authors put in before deciding to include them. It is interesting to see so many people pull from 4000, though. That article blew a lot of minds when it first came out, so maybe some of these authors have been itching to include it in something for a long time and jumped at the chance for this contest.
 
The 4000 entities are easy to include in nature-themed articles because they live in a forest, and I suspect that that's all the thought some of these authors put in before deciding to include them. It is interesting to see so many people pull from 4000, though. That article blew a lot of minds when it first came out, so maybe some of these authors have been itching to include it in something for a long time and jumped at the chance for this contest.
Yeah, but even before this contest there's always been interest in the fairies. I can't recall the article's name, but in it, the founder of the Foundation used the capital-F Factory as his base of operations before it got raided by the fairies, and the whole "industrialization versus naturalization" conflict began. You could argue it all started with SCP-1000, though. And that's really dissapointing to me because having 5k words on the Bigfoots defeats the purpose of the original article.

Nonetheless, the fairies and Bigfoots seem to be becoming another staple in the overarching SCP Canon, if they haven't already. I know there is no actual universal SCP canon but some things tend to show up more often than others, no?
 
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