The thing that bugged me for a while about these fleshsocks is that FtMs seem to want to have a penis that is simultaneously erect and flaccid. They want it to appear flaccid when in the underwear, but then it to be "erect" when it's off. As a result it's wholly unconvincing in both cases. I could see some skilled surgeon managing something that looks more like a real unerect penis, but no troon seems to want that
Another thing is when I look at that horror my brain still registers it as a female body because of that unmistakable waistline and hip-to-waist ratio (just like you can instaclock MtFs by their shoulders), frankensausage or not.
I just don't understand how they don't ALSO get intense dysphoria from the arm and leg scars. The trade-off is a total monkey's paw. How can they stand looking at arms with the skin flayed off? It's just not worth it, man. You should only see your penis like once a day anyway when you're showering or changing. Now you've got something extremely visible that you get to be constantly revolted by.
Sharkboy (/u/stupidstories) the 4chan poster child for failed SRS made a very long post describing everything that's happened to him before and after the surgery. (also posted in Tranny Sideshows thread here where he shows up more often).
It's hard to say what is real, but it is clear that Sharkboy's mental health is very poor and he should have never received the surgery to begin with. He also appears to have no support system other than 'friends' who sometimes allow him to live with them. Aside from the obvious mental instability I find it worrying that hospitals were willing to perform surgery on someone who by his own admission had no stable place to live, and had significant debts and no funds. This story is an absolute disaster from beginning to end.
Sharkboy (/u/stupidstories) the 4chan poster child for failed SRS made a very long post describing everything that's happened to him before and after the surgery. (also posted in Tranny Sideshows thread here where he shows up more often).
It's hard to say what is real, but it is clear that Sharkboy's mental health is very poor and he should have never received the surgery to begin with. He also appears to have no support system other than 'friends' who sometimes allow him to live with them. Aside from the obvious mental instability I find it worrying that hospitals were willing to perform surgery on someone who by his own admission had no stable place to live, and had significant debts and no funds. This story is an absolute disaster from beginning to end.
I just don't understand how they don't ALSO get intense dysphoria from the arm and leg scars. The trade-off is a total monkey's paw. How can they stand looking at arms with the skin flayed off? It's just not worth it, man. You should only see your penis like once a day anyway when you're showering or changing. Now you've got something extremely visible that you get to be constantly revolted by.
Oh, they do. The scarring is discussed quite a bit in FTM spaces, specifically for this reason. It's a constant, ugly reminder that they were never male and will never be male, no matter how hard they try. A lot of them get them tattooed over, but with the rise in trans visibility, there's a growing concern that they won't be able to play the scars off as some freak accident anymore.
The best anti-trans activism anyone can do is to post pictures of mangled neovaginas on billboards and web ads like the anti-abortion crowd used to post pictures of aborted babies outside of abortion clinics.
One thing that is legit bothering me is the class of surgeons doing this procedure. Plastic Surgeons. These are surgeons that do aesthetic work, which means the organs they are trained to muck about with are the Skin and the Bones. Bottom surgery however is a massive internal surgery dealing with all sorts of tubes, ducts and internal organs that by all rights should be handled by urologists or gynecologists, not plastic surgeons.
I think it's telling that surgeons in both these fields won't touch this procedure with a ten foot pole.
This troon had the chop but apparently his surgeon didn't remove all of the erectile tissue and every time he gets aroused his dick stump, now the "entry" to his rotpocket, ahem, swells.
...and here's what it looks like after the 1st revision:
This troon had the chop but apparently his surgeon didn't remove all of the erectile tissue and every time he gets aroused his dick stump, now the "entry" to his rotpocket, ahem, swells.
Even after the revision it looks awful. It kinda looks like a horror version of a horse vulva. Also this guy thinks his stomach tissue that was used is "mimicking" vaginal tissue which is not true.
What's supposed to be the "labia" here? He's 20 days post-op according to himself, and I honestly can't tell if the red area on his perineum is supposed to be the neo-vagina or just wound separation.
i've never seen an attempt to create labia minora and a clit hood before. impressive, i think it actually makes it look even more horrific, especially with the lower part of the labia sinking into the am hole.
Oh, they do. The scarring is discussed quite a bit in FTM spaces, specifically for this reason. It's a constant, ugly reminder that they were never male and will never be male, no matter how hard they try. A lot of them get them tattooed over, but with the rise in trans visibility, there's a growing concern that they won't be able to play the scars off as some freak accident anymore.
Did the lie ever worked tho?
Huge, symetrical scars (with stiches) just below the pecs.
Huge, rectangular scars (no stitches) on the tigh.
Only a dummy would believe it to be an accident. True, people get hurt in all kind of weird ways, but the shapes from thoses scars don't look like an accident, they look really deliberate and unusual. I feel like without knowing anything about trans people, and providing the tif passes well and doesn't make me thing twice about how strange this manlet sounds and looks, i would assume "this guy has had procedures he doesn't want to talk about".
But again, people are dumb.
Slight powerlevel but i spotted a Tif on the beach from miles away. Large masectomy scars, tiny head, huge hips, tiny knees... Nature is transphobic as hell.
i've never seen an attempt to create labia minora and a clit hood before. impressive, i think it actually makes it look even more horrific, especially with the lower part of the labia sinking into the am hole.
This troon had the chop but apparently his surgeon didn't remove all of the erectile tissue and every time he gets aroused his dick stump, now the "entry" to his rotpocket, ahem, swells.
There's the "both genders" kind that wants their amhole whilke keeping their penis:
"2 month post operation photo of non-binary/transfeminine patient who underwent phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Lining for the full-depth vagina was created using full-thickness skin grafts from the scrotum and from the groin regions (which are in continuity with the lateral labia incisions)."
"Transfeminine patient who desired phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Orchiectomy was performed, and the scrotal skin was used to create labia. A full thickness skin graft from the abdomen was used to create the lining of the vaginal canal. She has a full-depth functional vagina."
"Before and Immediate post op photos of non-binary/transfeminine patient who desired phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Lining for the full-depth vagina was created using scrotal skin and skin from the groin regions (which are in continuity with the labia incisions). Foley catheter and packing will stay in place for 1 week."
And the actual "Delete Everything" crowd:
"Agender patient who desired nullification (penectomy, orchiectomy, scrotectomy). This is a 1 year postoperative result."
"Gender fluid/transfeminine patient who desired nullification (penectomy, orchiectomy, scrotectomy). This is an immediate postoperative result. The Foley catheter is removed at 1 week post-op."
"Gender fluid/transfeminine patient who desired nullification (penectomy, orchiectomy, scrotectomy). This is a 1 year postoperative result. She maintained erogenous sensation, and is able to achieve orgasms with stimulation of the perineum."
The butcher for all of the above is Dr. Thomas Satterwhite.
An article (including all the gory detailed pictures) of the old days when genderspecials had to do some DIY if they wanted customised genitals:
tl;dr: Gay bottom embarrassed cause he has big Dicks and Nuts, gets injured in the nuts, suffers nerve damage, removes balls with a back-alley body modder, penis still hurts a little so since he has always had a fetish he convinces doctors (including in a psych eval) to go all the way and removes penis
"went to see a psychiatrist and he spent a good 90 minutes with me and said "yes, I have just the person that can work with you." So the psychologist did a battery of personality tests and said "you're perfectly fine, your only problem is that you've got these physical problems which work on your nerves." And I said "yeah." And he said "it also works with your personality" because I'm a gay submissive and I always have been and it wasn't working right. So in order to to fix it I worked toward a goal of having things removed. And that was it."
"in talking to all the guys that I've been talking with, they try to come up with all sorts of different rationalizations to justify it. In my case, my medical situation really didn't justify it because I was just uncomfortable with what I had. It wasn't medically necessary."
Completely fine and healthy details of his sex life:
"Another thing is, guys who are aroused by my situation are very aroused. I've got some guys who are pursuing me a lot. And they just like this idea, because there's nothing there to be in the way. Face to face fucking is very pleasurable. And when they're doing that I actually wet their stomachs with my fluids. And this one guy, he likes to go down on me. He's a bi guy and he said he does this with his girlfriend so he goes down there and starts licking me. And he just loves that idea. He loves the idea that I have a hairy chest and what is to him a very tiny vagina that he can't fuck but he can lick and he can enjoy being the male role. I've even got a straight guy here in town who likes to fuck me because I don't have any male genitals and he doesn't feel threatened by that."
What happens with the balls in back alley castrations?
"Quite a few [cutters] collect them. They preserve them, they put them in jars. One guy embedded his in plastic and now it's an ornament somewhere. This typically happens when you're in a master/slave dominant/submissive relationship and the submissive gives up his balls to his partner for keepsake."
The other option is, of course, cannibalism.
"It is for real, yes. Some guys do that. Think about the Testy Festy, where they go there and every year there they have concentration of people who are into eating sheep and bull nuts and rocky mountain oysters. I know a few cutters that don't charge anything for their work, the only charge they have is that they get the nuts afterwards."
Our eunuch, of course, has had a taste:
"Yes, as a matter of fact they do taste a little like chicken. Actually I would have to say they taste as much like chicken as they do roast pork. But it all depends on how you cook them. If you cook them in salted butter then they might be saltier than they might otherwise be."
"I went to a cutter's place and he was having an event where he cut a number of guys and I was assisting him there. And what I did is I cooked them up in some butter with some mushrooms. Quite good with a nice red merlot wine."
It seems like he also influenced Dr. Crane's decent into madness?
"In the last couple of years, my friend Mack from San Francisco ran into Dr. Crane from Brownstein & Crane and he met him, and I don't know how the two of them had the discussion, and then I had a phone interview with Dr. Crane and I explained my situation with him and now Dr. Crane is no longer doing just transgender type of procedures but [also] genital modifications."
The interviwer also asks about "the medical profession's reluctance to remove healthy body parts":
You know about the Hippocratic oath right? "First do no harm". They have to be convinced that what they are doing is in fact an improvement on your health. Which is why the surgeon is requesting a psychological evaluation. And the psychologist comes back and says "yeah, he's going to be uncomfortable where he is, he's going to be more improved, better mood, better this, better that" and so forth. So from a totality point of view, it's going to get better after he gets modified.
Of course, I can't leave out the pics:
Now if you REALLY want to see more of those kinds of pics, the BDSM/Body Mod community has been doing the stuff for the longest time, BMEzine has galleries for most of the stuff (like female nullification which is harder to find, unfortunately you have to register so let's hope a kiwi into the stuff shares stuff.
Calling these surgically made holes vaginas is like drilling a hole in your neck and calling it an esophagus. It's not the real thing nor functions like it, goes nowhere, and is probably painful and oozing.
Vaginas are more than just holes used as penis parking garages. They're the connecting channels to a very complicated system of organs. Honestly, nullo surgeries are also weird and gross but they seem at least better/less invasive than going the extra mile to make a flesh hole that can grow hair inside.
"Before and Immediate post op photos of non-binary/transfeminine patient who desired phallus-preserving vaginoplasty. Lining for the full-depth vagina was created using scrotal skin and skin from the groin regions (which are in continuity with the labia incisions). Foley catheter and packing will stay in place for 1 week."
Why is the scar so fucking huge?? Hell, even tummy tucks don't look this bad. Why did they slice his entire fucking abdomen open??
Also, forgive me for being retarded, but what's with the big mark on the penis? Is it a port wine stain or some other kind of birth mark? It's also in the before picture, so I'm assuming he was born with that ugly thing.
If you ever got the impression that FTMs might be the less retarded or autistic ones than the MTFs are... Well, miximmaterial is here to make you think again.
In her post on Reddit (a) she sais she uses American Sign Language (ASL) to communicate. And she is thinking about getting radial forearm free-flap phalloplasty – that is the one where your forearm looks like you are a burn victim and they cut off a not insignificant chunk of flesh and skin out of the donor site.
Now she is second guessing her thoughts of "aesthetic and sensation wise RFF seems to be best for me" – and I thank god for that. But it should be a fucking no-brainer. You don't mess up with you fucking arms/hands if that is your main communication and/or work tool you bloody idiot! Not even if the donor site did not end up looking so fucked up. There is so much that can go wrong and I am certain there were reported issues with how the forearm feels after that kind of surgery.
But the even weirder thing than that is – there apparently were two others who do sign (even though not as their main way of communication) and who did get the RFF. I just really hope they convinced her to drop the thought instead of going through with it. The fact these two morons got lucky and it ended up well for them (at least according to what they say) does not mean it will for you. Seriously, don't focus on the ASL part and just go through all of the RFF posts you can. Look up issues, problems, complications and keywords like that. I recall tingling, coldness, dryness, loss of sensation and the like. It is not worth risking that. Not even if you did not rely on sign language.
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Side note: why don’t you faggots include the usernames in your posts (mainly – but notlimited to – when posting what you find on Reddit) so it is easy to look up in the future if it the content has been posted before and view previous discussion if there is any for their older posts? Like that nonbinaryphallo gal has been featured here a few times already, however the latest post that can be found on previous page featuring her won't come up if you search for that username since the username is not written anywhere in the post.
I think I know, spoilered because it will make most men and probably even some women flinch:
Let's start with some basic anatomy. First, the shaft of the penis extends far into the abdomen, while the urethra makes something of a "U" shape and is basically right under the skin between the scrotum and anus. Second, the hole you see in those photos is basically the butcher punching through the skin into the urethra to make sure the patient can still urinate - when the penis is removed at the base, the body will not know to keep the urethral opening there open. As a truly horrifying bit of food for thought, that new hole may also need to be dilated - any sort of artificial hole in the body will close unless continually propped open because the body will recognize and fight it as an open wound.
Now that I've shocked and horrified you this also effectively means that the rest of the urethra inside the body (i.e. inside the part of the penis in the abdomen) is no longer used. Ordinarily urination doubles as a way to wash/clean the urethra but now part of the urethra is no longer getting "washed out" by urine. The doctor probably had no choice but to make that incision and remove the portions of the penis inside the abdomen because this "life saving" surgery turned that bit of the penis (well, that part of the urethra) into a fucking breeding ground for bacteria.
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It kinda looks like a horror version of a horse vulva. Also this guy thinks his stomach tissue that was used is "mimicking" vaginal tissue which is not true.
