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Fatrick gives his take on the recent DDoS attack.
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It shouldn't, Patso wants to see cyberterrorists and their stalkerchilds in federal prison, awaiting execution by Kamala Harris personally or whatever the fuck. His wine lawyers are currently scrambling for any post that might keep their case afloat, if the site's down, he'll be forced to pen another Tomlinson-original vandalism incident or spooky death threat.Of all people I did not suspect him to condemn the DDoS, so even in this day and age people can surprise me in a positive way...
Terrorism - using violence to achieve (usually political) goals.cyberterrorists
DDoS isn't bad mainly for harming its targets, it's more like vandalism or a public nuisance to them. DDoS is bad because of the ridiculous levels of collateral damage. Everyone's Internet costs more because of these scummy parasites, having to have shit like ClownFlare at all, sites going down because some butthurt shithead didn't like some other site on the same host, etc.Of all people I did not suspect him to condemn the DDoS, so even in this day and age people can surprise me in a positive way...
I didn't know Null was running Onaforums, I thought that was Quasi. Quasi's lawyer should know that Patrick has no idea who owns either site. It may fuck up his case in 10 days.
The California hearing on Quasi's petition to quash was held just an hour or two ago. Plenty of people were able to join and watch it on Zoom, but sadly barbaric California law forbids the recording in part or full of court proceedings by unapproved randos for wider dissemination, so unfortunately we're not likely to obtain any video of it like we did for the Wisconsin Court. I myself just barely missed it, so I'll try to cobble together the most important details from other brothermen's real-time observations. Given that it's fresh, second-hand information, I'll be updating this post as I get more verification, and it might be wise to take the more subjective events with a grain of salt. It looks like the Court site will be uploading mini-minutes, so we'll at least get the technical details in black and white at some point.
tl;dr it's not looking good for Patrick unless a miracle happens. There's several ways for this to blow up in his face, and the best part he has less than two weeks to do anything.
- Parties involved were Judge Stein, Attorney Ruben Peña (of Rosenberger Rosenfeld, LLP, the same Rosenfeld we've seen in court correspondence up until now) representing Quasi, and Attorney Rodney Mayr representing Patrick. Along for the ride but watching from the sidelines were Patrick himself, Brinton and the resto of Fat's growing legal team, as well as an unusually large number of observers.
- By all accounts, Stein was based and very much in-tune with Internet litigation and culture, in stark contrast to Judge Ashley.
- By all accounts, Peña was determined and high-energy.
- By all accounts, Mayr was a bumbling, mumbling mess. Also that he resembles Milton from Office Space.
- Mayr's argument seemed to boil down to accusing Quasi of leaving a fake book and inflammatory review designed to defame Patrick, and that he was encouraging others to log onto Goodreads to do so, so it's also conspiracy.
- Amusingly, he brings up that falsely calling someone a racist and antisemite is very hurtful and bad. Bit ironic given his client.
- Mayr tries to tie the nasty Internet comments into the wider cultural problem of muh racism and antisemitism, and Judge Stein completely blows past that nonsense.
- Peña rebutts by pointing out that they're ascribing a specific review to Quasi, even though there's no evidence he was the person that wrote it. Judge concurs.
- Stein bluntly states: "I don't find the fake [book] review to be defamatory'', "I'm not seeing how this evidence before me is prima facie defamatory'', "That's not defamatory, that's teaching other people how to troll", and "How is that not part of free speech?"
- At one point, Patrick was apparantly so frustrated by his attorney's inability to impress the judge that he 'raised his hand' so he could join in with the conversation, ostensibly to use his own powers of persuasion on Justice Stein. He started with, "I-I don't know the proper protocol for this" before the annoyed judge cut him off and stated that the proper protocol was to ask to take a 5 minute recess to confer with his attorney. Five minutes later, Mayr reappeared, requesting ANOTHER 5 minute recess. One can only imagine what words were shared between the scorned pig and his sweating lawyer in those ten minutes.
- The court clerk: ''While we're on break, we noticed there have been A LOT of... umm attendees that are attending."
- A few dummies in the audience also accidentally raise their hands, leading to the clerk asking if a 'Yusuf Kumiya' and Nick Carpinelli (of Scorch PFG TV fame) also wanted to check in.
- Mayr then shifts to arguing that Quasi reported Fat for ban evasion on Twitter (no evidence for this, of course), and that this is somehow defamation.
- Stein: "How is that actionable? He has the free speech to do that."
- Peña brings up Krinsky v. Doe 6 as a counterpoint, judge concurs.
- Mayr admits that they need to get John Doe 1 to get Does 2-60. The IPs he's given mean little for their case unless he's named and sworn in to vouch that they aren't bullshit. [not sure on how true this is]
- Mayr claims that there are posts by Quasi admitting he left fake reviews for purposefully malicious reasons (he obviously didn't). Stein calls his bluff, says that he wants to see it.
- Judge: "My tentative ruling is to grant the motion to squash."
- Judge is in favor of quashing but gives Pat 10 more days to file a new Declaration in Opposition. He wants to see actual evidence of Quasi's guilt specifically (those made-up posts), and he wants that evidence to satisfy and expand on Krinsky. Good fucking luck with that.
- 10 days on top of that for Quasi to respond. Next hearing scheduled on August 23rd at 9:30AM Pacific. Some people are saying that this date passes the Wisconsin deadline granted to Resto for serving people, but I'll need to doublecheck to make sure and to ascertain what the consequences might. Would be fun if his suit died here just because his hack lawyers wasted so much time twiddling their thumbs.
All that's changed is that it finally made its way in front of a judge with some expertise on the matter. The problem for fat Pat's lawyer is getting what Judge Stein asked for within the ten day time limit as the OnA Forums is currently down, and even if it was up, I'm fairly certain there are no posts by Quasi stating that he left fake reviews for malicious reasons.Nice summary, brotherman. Pat's lolsuit is absolutely toast. Its been a fun several months watching this thing drag on, but I think it's about time it gets tossed before too many people have to hire lawyers.
Has anyone noted the irony that somehow, the boomer and Gen X judges out there seem to understand the Internet more than the retarded millennials? How could millennials have grown up with the Internet in existence and be perpetual noobs, completely unaware of the shit you don't do unless you want to end up a lolcow?All that's changed is that it finally made its way in front of a judge with some expertise on the matter. The problem for fat Pat's lawyer is getting what Judge Stein asked for within the ten day time limit as the OnA Forums is currently down, and even if it was up, I'm fairly certain there are no posts by Quasi stating that he left fake reviews for malicious reasons.
While everything you've said is true, I've been following Pat for a few years now and there are moments when I have difficulty believing he's a real person or this lawsuit actually exists. I can imagine poor Judge Ashley, a normie, sitting there passively in stunned disbelief as he lets discovery occur, while trying to fathom the idea that all of this started because Pat said Norm MacDonald wasn't funny nearly three years ago.Has anyone noted the irony that somehow, the boomer and Gen X judges out there seem to understand the Internet more than the retarded millennials? How could millennials have grown up with the Internet in existence and be perpetual noobs, completely unaware of the shit you don't do unless you want to end up a lolcow?
Millennials are the lolcow generation. They are almost all absolute jokes, failures as humans, and we all laugh at them, from zoomers to boomers to literal people too old to be even boomers.
Nice summary, brotherman. Pat's lolsuit is absolutely toast. Its been a fun several months watching this thing drag on, but I think it's about time it gets tossed before too many people have to hire lawyers.
Imagine being such a loser, such a faggot, that you think someone saying "dude, your shitty book sucks cock" is actionable.That hearing is a fucking trip man. You got a based judge in front of a 1970s court room picture. You got a bald faggot getting BTFO'd. The other lawyer is standing, staring down into the monitor and talks.......like.......everyone......is....retarded. Then outta the blue, asian guy shows up with his constantly disappearing chair and he comes in with ponytail lawyer that has echo problems.
Money well spent Fatrick. Thousands wasted trying to sue someone that said they posted a book review, but you don't know which one.
No, we need more people to hire lawyers because at the end of the day fatrick will be the one paying everyone's legal fees. I don't know where he's getting the money for even his own lawyers cause it certainly isn't from sales of his shitty books.
He probably thought all he would have to do is pay another $5000 to get his way.People who have to hire lawyers have to pay the money up front. Even if lawyer fees are awarded, they are often paid out over years. These people also have to deal with the stress of being sued. And if Pat goes bankrupt after this, which is likely, then they'll never recoup that money. I dunno mayne. It's funny that Pat was dumb enough to do this, but theres not much else entertainment-wise that could come out of this, and the sooner it's over the sooner we can all laugh about it and the YouTube documentarians can make funny videos about it.
People who have to hire lawyers have to pay the money up front. Even if lawyer fees are awarded, they are often paid out over years. These people also have to deal with the stress of being sued. And if Pat goes bankrupt after this, which is likely, then they'll never recoup that money. I dunno mayne. It's funny that Pat was dumb enough to do this, but theres not much else entertainment-wise that could come out of this, and the sooner it's over the sooner we can all laugh about it and the YouTube documentarians can make funny videos about it.