Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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There's one of these times when we wish then the vaccine billionaires are guinea pigs for their own vaccines. https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/07/vaccine-billionaires-and-human-guinea-pigs
How do you make a potentially dangerous and ineffective drug appear like a miracle of modern science? You could, for instance, enrol only certain people in clinical trials and exclude others or bring the study to a close as soon as you see a spike in the data that implies evidence of effectiveness.
There are many ways to do it.
According to health practitioner and writer Craig Stellpflug in his article ‘Big Pharma: Getting away with murder’ (2012), the strategy is to get in quick, design the study to get the result you want, get out fast and make lots of money.
Stellpflug says:

“If a study comes up negative for your favorite drug, just don’t publish it! 68 per cent of all drug studies are swept under the carpet to keep those pesky side effects from being reported. Only 32 per cent of studies come up positive and a lot of those studies are ‘shortened’ to limit the long-term findings. Studies cut short were found to overestimate the study drug’s effectiveness and miss dangerous side effects and complications by an average of 30 per cent. This would explain the amazing 85 per cent drug study success rate in the hands of Big Pharma according to the Annals of Internal Medicine.”
Of course, it helps to get the regulatory agencies on board and to convince the media and health officials of the need for your wonder product and its efficacy and safety. In the process, well-paid career scientists and ‘science’ effectively become shaped and led by corporate profit margins and political processes.
And what better way to make a financial killing than by making a mountain out of a molehill and calling it a ‘pandemic’?

COVID-19 vaccine concerns​

The Wall Street Journal recently published an article by two health professors who said politics — not science — is behind the failure of health officials and the media to fully inform the public about the potential risks associated with COVID vaccines.

Although the article is available in full to subscribers only, the Children’s Health Defense (CHD) website provides an informative summary.
The CHD notes that Dr Joseph A Ladapo, associate professor of medicine at the David Geffen School of Medicine, and Dr Harvey A Risch, professor of epidemiology at Yale School of Public Health, wrote that while prominent scientists have raised concerns that the safety risks of Covid-19 vaccines have been underestimated, the politics of vaccination has relegated their concerns to the outskirts of scientific thinking.
The two professors noted that clinical studies do not always tell the full story about the safety of medications and that the health effects often remain unknown until the medicine is rolled out to the general public. Examples include Vioxx, a pain reliever that increased the risk of heart attack and stroke; antidepressants that appeared to increase suicide attempts among young adults; and an influenza vaccine used in the 2009-10 swine flu epidemic that was suspected of causing febrile convulsions and narcolepsy in children.
The authors added that clinical trials often enrol patients who are not representative of the general population and more is learnt about drug safety from real-world evidence. With this in mind, they said the large clustering of side effects following COVID vaccines is concerning as is the silence around these potential signals of harm.

Serious adverse events reported by the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System include low platelets, heart inflammation, deep-vein thrombosis and death. However, the two scientists argue this is likely to be a fraction of the total number of adverse events.
They criticise the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) for ignoring the reported serious COVID vaccine side effects.
The authors acknowledge the risks of COVID vaccines in certain populations, not least children, may outweigh the benefits. They also state that not a single published study has demonstrated that patients with a prior infection benefit from COVID-19 vaccination. Something which is not readily acknowledged by the CDC or Anthony Fauci, an indication, according to the authors, of how deeply entangled pandemic politics is in science.
They conclude that public health authorities are making a mistake and risking public erosion of trust by not being forthcoming about the possibility of harm from the vaccines.
 
I already saw major Czech news (idnes.cz) reporting about fatality rate of Delta (being shit all) and outright saying gov with Delta should treat the whole thing in same way it treats flu pandemic in past (which was basically increased measures at hospitals and nothing else).

Idnes is not fringe and not partisan. Maybe its finally breaking?
 
This gem is just wonderful:
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"All anti-vaxxers behind "lock and key". Lock them away from public life and a few inportant jobs. It will lessen the risks for the people that DO have social feeling and brains. And screw them in their wallet when they do get sick. Society does not have to pay for their carelessness."

Hope this clown is trolling but I know quite a few frustrated boomers like this and it honestly scares me bro. Especially that argument that unvaccinated people who do get sick, should just go fuck themselves and should pay everything out of pocket. How is that even legal.
I usually respond to this tier of insectoid thinking simply by saying "we don't live in a society" or if I'm really in the mood to rustle jimmies, something about how "socially minded" types should be shot in the hip and left in the wilderness.

You can't reason with bugmen who live in a hivemind, so don't bother.
 
I opened the news for the first time in a long time. The first thing I see is some more fearporn about a forth wave that is incoming after the summer vacation.
One of our TV-virologists mongered that the unvaccinated people will end up in the hospital this forth wave. SO YOU BETTER GET VACCINATED.

I glanced into the comment section (that is often times just disabled) and quite a few people are angry at this fearmongering but there are still very concerning comments from Covidians.
This gem is just wonderful:
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"All anti-vaxxers behind "lock and key". Lock them away from public life and a few inportant jobs. It will lessen the risks for the people that DO have social feeling and brains. And screw them in their wallet when they do get sick. Society does not have to pay for their carelessness."

Hope this clown is trolling but I know quite a few frustrated boomers like this and it honestly scares me bro. Especially that argument that unvaccinated people who do get sick, should just go fuck themselves and should pay everything out of pocket. How is that even legal.

It's very simple - the virus has become so heavily politicized that it has transcended from a virus of concern (initial outset) to an apotheosized, deified system of beliefs.

The "Science" isn't based on data or qualitive information regarding the virus itself, the "Science" isn't based on logical sequencing of known information related to the path of a virus, the "Science" is political. It's dictatorial. It's power-hungry. It's tyrannical.

Look at these historical statements :
Those who do not pledge allegiance to Holy Rules should be expelled from the Kingdom.
Those who do not pledge allegiance to Hitler should be gassed.
Those who do not pledge allegiance to the CCP shall be "re-educated".
Those who do not pledge allegiance to Roman Gods shall be fed to the lions.
Those who do not pledge allegiance to "The Science" shall have hell thrown down upon them.

That's where we are. It's not new behaviour, it's just behaviour we pretended for a while that we were above descending into.
The second a "Crisis" rolled around, Humans behaved like Humans have in all of history.

Those who wish to control, to dominate saw their chance to steal power from the masses.

When you're in a situation where it's either "submit or be kicked out", you're not talking about anything based on the good of all. You're looking at a power struggle, where the good of a few dominates.




Is there any chance of these insane vaccine requirements going away and the "Old Normal" fully returning?

(being optimistic about Clown World may be delusion hopefully there is one)

Unless people start to rise up, it's unlikely.

We have the "Health Minister" in NSW, Australia calling us "Maskless Wackos" "Unentitled to freedoms" and "Selfish" for a virus that has killed no one and put no strain on the hospitals.

The data doesn't matter to these cunts. The reality doesn't matter.

Look at what they've done so far :

Ignored data - their own data - around HCQ and Ivermectin as treatments for Coronavirus.
  • Silenced doctors from platforms - not just quacks, but INVENTORS of the technology they're using to keep us under the thumb.
  • Ignored data that shows that the virus is not of consequence.
  • Fabricated data at the outset to "scare" people into compliance.
  • Qualify "Death from Coronavirus" as Death anytime from anything but may test positive at some point or after death.
  • Refused to acknowledge how and why the "Virus" came about.
  • Didn't complete trials on a "vaccine", that isn't a vaccine and doesn't vaccinate and went straight to human use - mandatory human use.
  • Refuse outright to acknowledge that the "Vaccine" that isn't a vaccine is dangerous, killing people, maiming people and was horrible in animal trials.
The fact they've done all that, even with half the public of the WORLD knowing and they're doing nothing but doubling down kinda gives you your answer.
 
We have the "Health Minister" in NSW, Australia calling us "Maskless Wackos" "Unentitled to freedoms" and "Selfish" for a virus that has killed no one and put no strain on the hospitals.

And to think this wasn't even a thing in 2019. But then certain assholes cooked up this scamdemic over an overblown - and maybe genetically engineered - flu or mutated cold, so they could push this dystopian world even closer to a miserable cybernetic hive of bug-eating, pod-dwelling, bluepilled serfs. And the "little people" collectively allow this to happen because far too many are brainwashed blind followers.

The fact they've done all that, even with half the public of the WORLD knowing and they're doing nothing but doubling down kinda gives you your answer.

Yeah, I figured having faith in Clown World isn't such a good idea...

I've said it before, but if I could live independently in a spaceship far off of this crazy dumpster fire of a planet - sort of like the hi-tech equivalent of cabin in nature - I'd likely seriously consider it.

(yeah I've said this stuff before but wow 2020 was an ass year)
 
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And to think this wasn't even a thing in 2019. But then certain assholes cooked up this scamdemic over an overblown - and maybe genetically engineered - flu or mutated cold, so they could push this dystopian world even closer to a miserable cybernetic hive of bug-eating, pod-dwelling, bluepilled serfs. And the "little people" collectively allow this to happen because far too many are brainwashed blind followers.



Yeah, I figured having faith in Clown World isn't such a good idea...

I've said it before, but if I could live independently in a spaceship far off of this crazy dumpster fire of a planet - sort of like the hi-tech equivalent of cabin in nature - I'd likely seriously consider it.

(yeah I've said this stuff before but wow 2020 was an ass year)

The virus is 100% from the Wuhan Lab, with assistance in complicit $$$ from Fauci, taken directly from the US taxpayer. 100%.
The fact that they gamed all of this out at Event 209 was pretty telling.

If you have a look at the reality of the timeline regarding "Coronavirus", you sure get the message that it was purposeful.
Greta's climate dooming was getting the cold shoulder and it was an election year. Within a month of Greta being phased out, Coronavirus was phased in.

The virus didn't have to be dangerous, just novel (as evidenced by the Delta Variant hype atm). If you politicize the virus, you have enough people who agree with the overall agenda that are - the most important part - getting paid handsomely whilst their political enemies are losing their jobs, then you have the ability to push through whatever narrative you like. Corrupt governments in key countries can take advantage of the fog of war of the crisis and beef up their number of deaths (Italy, Spain, UK). Corrupt officials in the US (Cuomo) and elsewhere (Victoria, Austalia's Daniel Andrews) can work on a macro scale and inflate cases and deaths in a localized die off.

You have platforms willing to censor all content to the contrary of the narrative. You have MSM the world over, willing to push the narrative. You have social shaming in place if people want to talk about the lab leak or heaven forbid, purposeful gain of function research and purposeful leaks.

The pod dwelling was always the end goal, Covid-19 was just the window dressing.
It's not the Virus that is interesting, it's everything else that happened and is happening around it (BLM riots, destruction of property, obliteration of small business, multi-nation "megafires" for no reason, then now, the cyber "pandemic" attacking supply chains and the China-US shipping crisis about to hit supply chains).

I've said it before, but if I could live independently in a spaceship far off of this crazy dumpster fire of a planet - sort of like the hi-tech equivalent of cabin in nature - I'd likely seriously consider it.

I'm sure they'd sanction the shit out of you up there.

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Meanwhile, Sydney enters its second week of lockdown for....

0 deaths, 5 hospitalisations.

NSW Health is pushing the narrative of "Delta Variant has no symptoms or may have light hayfever".
News.com.au is chastising people for going outside... in the sunshine. Where the virus is known not to spread.
It's the same rinse and repeat from last year. They said that the people going to the beach were going to make Australia "eclipse" Italy's deathtoll. (We were told to be very ashamed of ourselves, that we were a disgrace.)

None of it happened. Prior to Daniel Andrews' mass die off that he can't properly account for (every death during Andrews' COVID Firesale was classed as a COVID death), Australia had around 120 "deaths" from COVID..... in flu season. No flu deaths though. Whatsoever. At all. Despite no masks. MAGICAL!

Daniel Andrews "fell" down a flight of stairs and hasn't been seen until recently. Strangely, the mass die offs stopped with his stair incident.

They declared the "success" of washing hands and social distancing.

Now the Delta variant is here, with no deaths, it's vital everyone get vaccinated (with a vaccine that has provable local deaths).
Vaccination is only open to people over 40. So their death pool is even smaller than usual and they're still kicking home runs.

With no one dying and no strain put on public healthcare by the virus (in FLU season since there's now no FLU) we have nuts calling for more shutdowns, lockdowns and harsher punishments.....why? Because they're not "obeying every order from the Health Dept" - per NSW Health Tzar, Brad "Health" Hazzard.

Makes a lot of sense doesn't it?
 
Where I am at we are in the second phase of reopening. So venues are being expanded, still no indoor dining for some fucked up reason. Finally after six months of being on layoff I'm back to work, hopefully the province keeps on continuing to open up and by the middle of Summer this entire fucking nightmare can finally be over. People are out enjoying their lives as they can, sales are doing considerably well unlike the previous season, so thankfully people are beginning to come back out to reality. I truly think we are actually at the end of it this time and if the evolution of the virus is as what I have expected it to be, then the Delta strain should give those that didn't rush out to get jabbed when everyone was spooked, nature's vaccine. A weaker version of the coof, that will essentially be the dominate strain, choking out the lethal strains.

I still think the jab for anyone without preexisting conditions is futile, especially when the ARS data reflects what it reflects. Just to think the "vaccine hesitant," not only get a less lethal strain, but also don't have to endure the possibility of the effects the jab may have long term. Meanwhile, by the time if some type of bad SARS variant comes back, then the vaccine and treatment regimen that was developed by the initial live test subjects would of be a lot closer then it was this time around. Still, I don't even take the flu shot, so the jab is pointless unless I was walking around with no immune system.

I would get it if the lethality was what the original spooks peddled it to be, little above 10 percent like the OG SARS, but this was like 2 percent at best in the overall demographic. Slightly higher than my original guess of 0.6 percent, but it still shows the response went very overboard. People are still cluster fucked in the head and will be damaged years to come from this entire propaganda campaign, but the average normie seems to believe the jab has some effect. Whether or not it does, statistically the rates are dropping, probably due to the weather as well, but things are getting better. More and more I hear from people from January and February of 2020, the more I think that was when where I am at we got plowed by the Beta strain.

Quite few of my friends got the jab, my response is, well I hope it works out for you, and your choice. Then I usually give the stance that I will take my chances with the coof, especially in the regards I think I already had it.

Even if not and I end up getting the Delta variant, I'll survive. I'm glad I also used the time that I had during this nightmare to get back to school, save some cash, and gain some skills opposed to buying the spooks fear porn. Despite the nonsense they peddle out, people just aren't scared anymore, and we did what we could do. Most people that I know that got jabbed seem to be fine, which makes me happy. Either way, I'll take the less lethal variant, and let nature do it job in vaccinating me. The human body is an amazing specticale, not that I don't think it's a grand conspiracy to cull the heard. I just think that the hope and a prayer and rushed actions taken in the course of this crisis has shown the flaws in our fundamental institutions.

Either way, hope everyone in Canada had a good Canada Day, and my American friends have a great independence day. Eat a good burger, send it with a nice beer, and laugh it up at the grill. Fuck the fear.
 
People here are aware that Delta has little risk of hospitalisation or death. The current narrative to keep people in fear is that Delta is giving the kids Long Covid even when they had mild or asymptomatic infections. Politicians are pushing our vaccination comission to recommend the Coof jab for kids below 12 over Delta.
Oh, and said politicians are rediscovering air filters and shit for schools. They barely pushed for bringing air filters and UV air disinfectors into schools and offices at all, just a bit a year and a half ago, and then it was all "TESTING, KEEPING DISTANCE, WEARING MASKS, TESTING". Now they remember that people could have done other things, and somehow those politicians are blaming... Whom, exactly? They didn't push for it, and most frequently that the ONLY solution is DISTANCE, MASKS, TESTS, and yet somehow they're surprised that nobody considered other options?
I think several studies showed that SARS-CoV-2 is pretty susceptible to UV light, yet our politics has mostly disregarded the option of using UV-C light for reducing the viral load in an office or classroom. Reeee reeee UV light is also harmful and not safe or whatever, as if that's a fucking problem in a closed device.

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Also, Hamburg is reporting like an 80% (!) false-positive rate for coof quick tests.
 
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The current narrative to keep people in fear is that Delta is giving the kids Long Covid even when they had mild or asymptomatic infections.
Amazing how they already know that a virus variation that's only existed for a couple months and very few people have gotten will resulted in long-term problems, yet nobody questions how they know this other than ass-pulls. It's not like they've done a ton of testing to see that kids lungs are permanently scarred or something; just completely making shit up now.
 
Reminder for anyone living in a Branch Covidian controlled area that my open and mask-free red state is still doing well. For us covid ended at least 6 months ago. The Hospital is about the only place still pretending masks do anything, and only the big hospitals at that.

With life being normal it is strange watching the news or hearing stories from visitors about how fucked up other places still are. With no end in sight, ffs!

Remember when all the red states that were open were predicted to have piles of dead bodies by now? Weird how there is no follow up at all on those predictions, and the same people making those easily falsified claims are still allowed to steer public policy with the same tired fearmongering. It won't end until they are removed from power, or you move to a better state ;)

Happy Independence Day! I hope the country breaks apart soon, if Covid didn't make it clear that the two dominant ideologies aren't compatible anymore nothing will.
 
Is there any chance of these insane vaccine requirements going away and the "Old Normal" fully returning?

(being optimistic about Clown World may be delusion hopefully there is one)
If you live in the USA move to a red state, there are no vaccine requirements where I live. Even in health care facilities there are no vaccine requirements for staff, a lot of health care workers I know did not get the vaccine.
 
Happy Independence Day! I hope the country breaks apart soon, if Covid didn't make it clear that the two dominant ideologies aren't compatible anymore nothing will.
We're keeping upstate New York, Western Pennsylvania, Eastern Oregon, Eastern Washington, and the good parts of California!
 
Happy Independence Day! I hope the country breaks apart soon, if Covid didn't make it clear that the two dominant ideologies aren't compatible anymore nothing will.

Considering that great nations and empires have an average lifespan of 250 years before they collapse (as per John Glubb's The Fate of Empires), I'd say this is more than likely. I fully expect balkanization in the future, and that will most certainly lead to serious issues if a second civil war/american revolution would kick off. Look at Yugoslavia, and also look at the attempt at American balkanization in the 1860s. It's going to get really bad in Minecraft if this were to take place.
 
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