RWBY - The Hindenburg on which Rooster Teeth rests its hopes, dreams and future

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Do they even explain why theres racism against the faunus? Other than just them being different?

I took a look through the wiki and didn't see much. Like humans didn't like them because they;re different. There was a big grimm attack on some city, so Humans and faunus worked together to destroy it which made humans not hate them. Then there was another war, this time between humans the faunus helped in and were rewarded an island paradise and basic rights for their efforts. Then humans just want to take away the rights because?

How much set up for this racism is there exactly?

The entire setup is "haha, rabbit girl is getting bullied for having rabbit features". That is as deep as it has ever gotten.

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

The entire setup is "haha, rabbit girl is getting bullied for having rabbit features". That is as deep as it has ever gotten.

If that's true it's fucking hysterical. That and the little sign that said "No Faunus" too. I'll never understand how they did so bad with this racism shit. Unless you wanna believe their fans and it's because Miles and Kerry are white and therefore can't write racism.

 

[Chilson]

Do they even explain why theres racism against the faunus? Other than just them being different?

I took a look through the wiki and didn't see much. Like humans didn't like them because they;re different. There was a big grimm attack on some city, so Humans and faunus worked together to destroy it which made humans not hate them. Then there was another war, this time between humans the faunus helped in and were rewarded an island paradise and basic rights for their efforts. Then humans just want to take away the rights because?

How much set up for this racism is there exactly?

No. Beyond a bully who bullied a faunus, but he bullies everyone so its not even racism and one sign saying "no faunus" in a town where the school headmaster is a faunus.

It would be so easy to actually make the racism believable too. Make it so the faunus are believed to be some kind of Grimm off shoot, wouldn't be hard considering both have animal features, or are seen with intense distrust due to some prior tragedy with a grimm invasion on a lost fifth major civilization where the faunus ran away rather than help the humans. Add in a bit of actual slavery, race riots and boom you have all you need to create a reason humans are racist towards faunus.

The allegory would never work for real world racism due to the fact that faunus are legitimately different from humanity and there is a reason to be afraid of them, rather than just having darker skin (same problem Zootopia has). But whatever, I did this to show that its really not hard to create a believable backstory about fictional racism.

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

The allegory would never work for real world racism due to the fact that faunus are legitimately different from humanity and there is a reason to be afraid of them, rather than just having darker skin (same problem Zootopia has). But whatever, I did this to show that its really not hard to create a believable backstory about fictional racism.

It's crazy to me because it's not particularly hard to set up history and hatred between races. Having a basic knowledge of human history would help but since these turds like video games, there's plenty of good examples of racism in them.

Like, take Dragon Age Origins for instance. Why is there so much animosity between Humans and Elves?

At first when humans arrived on the scenes, Elves thought them inferior because they barely lived to be a 100 years, were warlike and brutish as all hell. Our arrival brought our diseases to them and for whatever reason, being around humans made Elves actually age, meaning their immortality was worthless. Strike 1 why Elves don't like humans.

Then the tevinter imperium rose to power and completely fucking destroyed the Elven homeland. Some elves fled, many were enslaved. The runaway elves tried to rebuild their homeland elsewhere but it was destroyed generations later by a Holy Human Crusade. Two more strikes as to why elves hate humans. These conquests also basically obliterated Elven culture entirely, with some outsider elves still trying to hold onto what little they have left but most elves basically opt to just live among humans now instead.

City Elves (Those Elves that live among humans now) live in impoverished ghettos within human cities and work as house servants for rich humans in the quarter. We have multiple slurs for them and they're used in game. (Knife Ears, Slant Ears, Rabbit) You can see how little humans care for Elves more if you play the City Elf Origin story, wherein your arranged marriage ceremony is interrupted by several human nobles who kidnap a bunch of women (You included if you're a female) and basically plan to rape them. Even killing one that tries to resist right in front of you.

Setup, retards. It's not hard.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

It's crazy to me because it's not particularly hard to set up history and hatred between races. Having a basic knowledge of human history would help but since these turds like video games, there's plenty of good examples of racism in them.

Like, take Dragon Age Origins for instance. Why is there so much animosity between Humans and Elves?

At first when humans arrived on the scenes, Elves thought them inferior because they barely lived to be a 100 years, were warlike and brutish as all hell. Our arrival brought our diseases to them and for whatever reason, being around humans made Elves actually age, meaning their immortality was worthless. Strike 1 why Elves don't like humans.

Then the tevinter imperium rose to power and completely fucking destroyed the Elven homeland. Some elves fled, many were enslaved. The runaway elves tried to rebuild their homeland elsewhere but it was destroyed generations later by a Holy Human Crusade. Two more strikes as to why elves hate humans. These conquests also basically obliterated Elven culture entirely, with some outsider elves still trying to hold onto what little they have left but most elves basically opt to just live among humans now instead.

City Elves (Those Elves that live among humans now) live in impoverished ghettos within human cities and work as house servants for rich humans in the quarter. We have multiple slurs for them and they're used in game. (Knife Ears, Slant Ears, Rabbit) You can see how little humans care for Elves more if you play the City Elf Origin story, wherein your arranged marriage ceremony is interrupted by several human nobles who kidnap a bunch of women (You included if you're a female) and basically plan to rape them. Even killing one that tries to resist right in front of you.

Setup, retards. It's not hard.

I think this bears repeating, but if they showed actual, bare bones racism, they'd be crucified by their "fans", who are obsessed with positive discrimination.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Setup, retards. It's not hard.

But worldbuilding is hard and just setting things up for kickass animation is pretty damn easy.

 

[TheClorax]

Since we’re on the White Fang, Illia’s whole arc feels really hollow given the refusal to really tackle the racism aspect.
I mean, her trailer set it all up as, “There are 2 kinds of humans, the racists, and the people compliant in that.” which follows through decently on the whole reason the WF turned violent in the first place; it was actually getting results. Blake full up says that the more violent approach to racism was actually working on some level.
But instead of Illia’s arc really exploring that sort of theme, it just gets resolved with Blake pinning her down and going, “Your parents wouldn’t want you to be evil! Please stop and I might flick your bean too!”
To which Illia of course accepts.
I mean, I prefer peaceful protest, but never ever questioning the merit of violent means is a pretty dangerous thing. Like… do you really think Hong Kong will gain it’s way to freedom from the CCP through peaceful protest alone?

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

I think this bears repeating, but if they showed actual, bare bones racism, they'd be crucified by their "fans", who are obsessed with positive discrimination.

If you're gonna do it, you can't half ass it. RWBY was made before the fanbase went full autistic hugbox so they could've at least shown some fucking poverty on that island paradise the Faunus call home. Literally any setup at all would help.

Like make them linked to the Grimm somehow. Like Grimm are Faunus who went feral for whatever reason. It'd give a good reason for humans to hate them and want them isolated on an island to boot. Even if some Faunus help humanity fight Grimm. It'd also give an interesting layer to any Faunus character since they could always go full monster mode.

But worldbuilding is hard and just setting things up for kickass animation is pretty damn easy.

They really should've just let him do cool anime fights the show. Like Deadliest Warrior but without all the "science" parts. Barebones setup and just let cool anime fights happen.

 

[WULULULULU]

Jeezus, this thing is still alive? I've only seen like the tidbits of the first volume and thought it would never push through, let alone reach up to 8 volumes. I wonder what level of autism kept something like this alive for so long.

 

[Xenomorphs Are Cute]

I don't even know why M&K are even trying to use real-life allegories on this, history (at least the last decade) has proven people like monster girls more.

 

[ChevroletBlackboard]

Miles has basically admitted that the entire reason the Faunus existed was because Monty had a catgirl fetish and wanted to come up with a story excuse for giving Blake cat ears.

God only knows how that A-Z conversation went of them going "OK... let's do a RACISM PLOT" but it's still one of the biggest fuckups in the entire show.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Miles has basically admitted that the entire reason the Faunus existed was because Monty had a catgirl fetish and wanted to come up with a story excuse for giving Blake cat ears.

God only knows how that A-Z conversation went of them going "OK... let's do a RACISM PLOT" but it's still one of the biggest fuckups in the entire show.

"They look different so therefor everyone hates them."

 

[Random Internet Person]

Since we’re on the White Fang, Illia’s whole arc feels really hollow given the refusal to really tackle the racism aspect.
I mean, her trailer set it all up as, “There are 2 kinds of humans, the racists, and the people compliant in that.” which follows through decently on the whole reason the WF turned violent in the first place; it was actually getting results. Blake full up says that the more violent approach to racism was actually working on some level.
But instead of Illia’s arc really exploring that sort of theme, it just gets resolved with Blake pinning her down and going, “Your parents wouldn’t want you to be evil! Please stop and I might flick your bean too!”
To which Illia of course accepts.
I mean, I prefer peaceful protest, but never ever questioning the merit of violent means is a pretty dangerous thing. Like… do you really think Hong Kong will gain it’s way to freedom from the CCP through peaceful protest alone?

I think the issue presented was that peaceful protests weren’t shown to be getting results or being crushed either way, and its biggest advocates of Blake and her dad just had a mansion to run back to if things went tits up (unlike MLK who faced fire hoses and jail time), and the show says the way to get what you want is to just be peaceful and just wait for it even if you have to be a doormat. There was no logical step from peace to violence.

As for things like the real world like Hong Kong, it’d help if we see the real reason why some are reluctant to turn to violence: it’s a one way road with worse resistance than civil disobedience, with dire consequences of things go to shit.

Oh what could have been if worldbuilding mattered in this show.

 

[LordBaron]

And yet fans bring up things like the Black Panthers and BLM as how to do it right.

Or if they want to deny the White Fang were based off those movements, they'll say they're based off the IRA.

 

[Tism the Return]

Jeezus, this thing is still alive? I've only seen like the tidbits of the first volume and thought it would never push through, let alone reach up to 8 volumes. I wonder what level of autism kept something like this alive for so long.

RWBY is like a trainwreck loop, it keeps on crashing over and over so you can't help but keep watching the tragedy unfold.

 

[Random Internet Person]

RWBY is like a trainwreck loop, it keeps on crashing over and over so you can't help but keep watching the tragedy unfold.

And we’re not even at the point of the V9 trailer yet.

 

[Juan's Sombrero]

Are we sure that there's even going to be a volume 9?

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Are we sure that there's even going to be a volume 9?

Yes, because RT can't financially afford not to have one.

 

[LecherousGranolaBar]

Are we sure that there's even going to be a volume 9?

They cratered RVB and their strongest animation attempt recently was Human Beans. I guess Gen Lock got that fabled 2nd season finally but they aren't even footing that show and nobody cared in the first place so no one will care about this one.

There will be new volumes of RWBY until RT goes bankrupt and probably a couple after. It's their only "successful" property at this point.

 

[TheClorax]

RWBY is like a trainwreck loop, it keeps on crashing over and over so you can't help but keep watching the tragedy unfold.

Jokes on you man that’s why I like it. The jankiness of it all is part of the appeal. Literally the only thing that would make me stop watching is if I felt it had become competent.