Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

[Gru]

The Speedrun Moderators have been trying to kill the rumors about the 1.15 runs for a month now. According to one of the Head Mods, they have zero evidence that supports any of his previous runs being faked. Apparently the only reason one of them went under suspicion was because their head verifier Casseroii has a huge hate boner for Clay and claimed she saw a splice.

When it turned out that there was no splice, she immediately backpedaled and disappeared for a month.

I brought up the fact that Clayton's shitty "apology" for cheating was brought out exactly when said runs are under suspicion because the timing is extremely odd. Even if the runs aren't spliced I wouldn't be surprised if something was fishy about them.

The main thing Karl was trying to disprove was the actual fake info that retards like H3H3 and Bowblax were spreading, while also saying "The evidence fits the timeline Dream presented more than the timeline everyone else assumed."

As it stands, though, the Moderators have verified basically everything Karl brought forward in the video, with at least one (KaptainWutax) being involved with gathering and providing info for Karl. Keep in mind that both Karl and Wutax were vocally losing respect for Clay by this point, yet the evidence was enough to sway over both of them. So if Clay was able to pull the wool over Karl and Wutax's eyes 8 months after this controversy, why not just feed the mods this claim back in October? He would've been able to remove the mod without getting in trouble and probably would've gotten decent leaderboard entries anyways.

Blowjobblax and Klein aren't sources worth listening to, and nobody who cared about Dream cheating should have listened to them, I'll give you that. I don't really think Clayton pulled the wool over anyone's eyes either, I just believe he had a hand in the video as Karl was overly soft in this video, and trying to somewhat vindicate Dream through the comparisons of Billy Mitchell, who seems to be a hated figure in the speedrunning community. I find it hard to buy his excuse of cheating "by accident". But there's two scenarios here I can believe, Scenario A which I could believe but has holes, and Scenario B which makes more sense to me.

• Scenario A: Dream's description of the mod is accurate: Dream described the mod with functions a datapack could do, and considering he previously called a resource pack a mod, such as during the infamous "guys my menu mod put the dreamnotfound text lol such a wacky coincidence" incident during the breakdown stream after his "apology", I wouldn't be surprised if Dream has no actual knowledge of mods, but it doesn't seem he applied a datapack in his streams, so unless he spliced, unlikely, it is most likely Scenario B.
• Scenario B: Dream did indeed have a mod commisioned for the manhunt, and due to his lack of knowledge on mods did indeed have the mod on by accident, but, this option would also prove him to be extremely retarded, as not only would he have to have not checked his mod folder for six whole seperate livestreams, but didn't utilize the Minecraft launcher's extremely easy feature of swapping installations on the fly before launching the game. The Minecraft launcher has a system to switch installations before launch that only takes around 2 clicks, and is compatible with modded installations, so he could've had a seperate installation for speedrunning the game, but didn't.

There was no real, logical reason as to why Clayton and Mitchell should have been compared besides the fact that they both cheated in their speedruns, as well. It comes off as a play to make Dream look better by comparing him to a figure reviled by the audience and saying "Look, he's not as bad as that guy"

Perhaps Clay wasn’t lying about the lack of objectivity and professionalism from the speedrun mods. From my encounters, they all seem rather childish and spiteful over the whole drama — but it seems Geosqaure himself has moved on.

I've gone on about this before, but Dream being right on the speedrun mods being unprofessional does change my stance a little bit.

Dream has a typical tactic in his statements against opposition, of trying to discredit an argument by bringing it to the lowest possible odds, while also insulting his opposition to make them appear as wrong. Examples being: The infamous astrophysicist, his argument that his fanbase isn't "antiblack" (both sides were stupid there, "antiblack" isn't a thing), and especially this statement on the toxicity of his stans:

it honestly is a “small” amount of people. People who think that a substantial percentage of stans are doxers and send death threats are just dumb. Even if it is “thousands” of minecraft stans which I would even disagree with that, we’re talking about a fandom where there are millions of active minecraft stans. Even if we say there are 5,000 different people actively doxing and sending death threats and 2 million minecraft stans, that’s very comparable to the percentage of people that have literally murdered someone in the US. Which is obviously way worse.

There are lots of problems with the fandom and it’s terrible when someone is doxed or death threatened by someone, but this particular issue isn’t one that’s any worse or more prevalent than any other community (other than that the community is large). Based on my experience on the internet I would say it’s actually far far better than almost every Minecraft space I’ve been in (and this may be due to the higher percentage of girls, as opposed to the male dominated areas I’ve played in like PvP)

Before this simply made me believe that he just has to get the last word in, and refuses to let anyone else win an argument, but from the context now, I think he might just be actually fucking retarded. Does he not realize how bad every single statement he makes in retaliation to something comes off? If he had a PR manager, wouldn't the guy be screaming his head off at Clayton to NOT include remarks about his opposition in an argument?

 

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this isn’t even funny it’s a bit horrifying at this point how far people will go to defend these guys

Translation: Please don't criticize or hate on muh Youtubers because we are autists

 

[SneedLurker2988]

After all, Clay was straightforward with one thing: If the recording mod was running, which we now know it was, it optimized chunkloading beyond what Vanilla can ordinarily do. Helpful for recording videos on multiplayer, but technically against the speedrun rules, which should have disqualified the run in the first place.

That's one thing I find fascinating noone, not even karl the spergrun expert, really mentioned the problem of an optimization mod even if it didn't effect rates, since speedrun rules are usually all about standardizing play. It's on the mod team to not request any unorthodox/custom mods (as opposed to fabric, optifine etc) but it's also on Clay for being a low agency nigger and failing to provide those things upfront. Just assuming something that changes the game will be ignored by the same type of people to play and autisticly analyze a game to the point of having a frame by frame playbook is on you. This niggery is amplified moreso if the cheats weren't an "accident."

 

[AltisticRight]

After all, Clay was straightforward with one thing: If the recording mod was running, which we now know it was, it optimized chunkloading beyond what Vanilla can ordinarily do. Helpful for recording videos on multiplayer, but technically against the speedrun rules, which should have disqualified the run in the first place.

Good point, the entire thing wouldn't have blown up and this thread might not exist (for the worse, or at least in such a capacity). I think he got what he deserved though, never openly taunt one autist with too much time and knowledge on a specific subject, let alone a collective of them. That report was quite good considering 20-year-olds were behind it.

I even had a theory back then, perhaps his recording mod was causing issues leading to drop rates being off. This isn't unheard of, it's a plugin/mod at the end of the day and can do weird things. The run should have been disqualified because of the recording mod alone.

All his runs being removed for cheating multiple times is warranted. I was there when the 1.15 record happened and his strategy was just weird, but nothing was optimised back then and there's absolutely not evidence of cheating. Dubious strategy isn't evidence for cheating. At one point, blowing up villager homes was considered a meme strat, Illuminautist got a world record with it.

Casseroii has a huge hate boner for Clay and claimed she saw a splice.

She? So not a troon for once? I looked at the twitter and no pronouns are listed.
Surprised.

 

[purpleflurp]

All his runs being removed for cheating multiple times is warranted. I was there when the 1.15 record happened and his strategy was just weird, but nothing was optimised back then and there's absolutely not evidence of cheating. Dubious strategy isn't evidence for cheating. At one point, blowing up villager homes was considered a meme strat, Illuminautist got a world record with it.

The only reason they didn't remove his runs back in December was due to Clay being a big factor in Minecraft speedruns gaining popularity. They were operating on the assumption that if he was banned, a large amount of the community would've left with him.

As for his run using the meme strat, at that point in time the Dream channel was mostly just cursed Minecraft videos, so the community just accepted that the meme youtuber would use the meme strategy.

She? So not a troon for once? I looked at the twitter and no pronouns are listed.
Surprised.

She's a 19 year old from Paraguay according to her discord conversations. Given how they treat LGBT people down there, I feel like she'd have pulled a Near by now if she were a troon.

 

[financhu]

Alright here's my attempt as someone who sees this type of stuff daily on Twitter:

Spoiler: Translation into layman's terms by your local retard

First off the "##" in the display name followed by "wilbur". The "##" indicates an introject/the fact that they are psychotic, basically they are claiming to have dilusions or DID or OSDD or some variant of those illnesses. "Wilbur" meaning Wilbur Soot, so they think they are Wilbur Soot. I'm not sure what the ". . !" is, but I think that's just there for aesthetic.
>"hello i know So many people have said this before but PLEASE tag neg..."
This means: Hello, I know this has been said before, but please tag any criticism/negative comments ("neg" indicates negative connotation; "neg" is short for "negative")
Extra info: Typically tags are done like // (insert creator) neg. For example: // fundy neg
>"...of ccs AND cs..."
"cc" means "content creator" and "c" means "character" (so their DreamSMP character). Typically they are differentiated by putting "cc!" or "c!" followed by the name of the character or content creator.
For example: c!Ranboo (Ranboo the DreamSMP character) and cc!Ranboo (Ranboo the content creator)
>"...obvs for hyperfix..."
"hyperfix" means "hyperfixation" this is something mentally disabled/ill typically experience. People who are hyperfixated on something may react badly when faced with criticism of something they are fixated on depending on the person.
>"...more importantly for d/as and introjects. we literally ARE the characters/people, so seeing neg judt brings US down..."
This means: People with DID/dillusions think they are the content creators/characters, seeing negative comments directed at who they see as themselves is tiring for them.

Any further inquiries or is this enough?

When did pretending to have DID get so popular? Is this what otherkins came up with to stop hating each other over picking the same person to kin?

I was looking in some MCYT related discords lately, and in BBH's discord, there's been more than one person come in and announce they have DID to everyone and them immediately start pretending like they're switching between 5 different people. The disc called them dumb and told them to fuck off.

However, I also took a look in Sapnap's discord, they have a long pin describing a bullshit version of DID with a glossary, and I've been told people have been banned for refusing to indulge others fantasies. Interestingly the pin isn't even in the rules channel, and it's added by a staff member who doesn't have Sapnap, or Dream, or anything else, added as a friend. I feel like the lunatics run the asylum.

 

[Jester]

When did pretending to have DID get so popular? Is this what otherkins came up with to stop hating each other over picking the same person to kin?

I was looking in some MCYT related discords lately, and in BBH's discord, there's been more than one person come in and announce they have DID to everyone and them immediately start pretending like they're switching between 5 different people. The disc called them dumb and told them to fuck off.

However, I also took a look in Sapnap's discord, they have a long pin describing a bullshit version of DID with a glossary, and I've been told people have been banned for refusing to indulge others fantasies. Interestingly the pin isn't even in the rules channel, and it's added by a staff member who doesn't have Sapnap, or Dream, or anything else, added as a friend. I feel like the lunatics run the asylum.

Apparently it started with dissociadid, she was in a big drama with Trisha Paytas that was faking DID and then did an interview with Anthony Padilla that went viral. The film split was also a hit and impressionable teenagers got influence by it.

DID is extremely rare and seeing so many people in the same fandom claiming to have the same disease is ridiculous. Moreover, if you have DID, you are usually asked /forced to not be on social media or be online too much as it can lead to more delusion.

 

[thinking about mr hands]

I’m sure most of the kids in the MCYT fandom claiming to have DID are just wanting to roleplay multiple characters, and interact with Stan accounts, without the stigma that comes with being an RP account, because honestly it’s kind of ridiculous.

 

[Jester]

If you want to laugh for a bit, I highly suggest r/fakedissordercringe. They have plenty of people faking DID.

 

[financhu]

Apparently it started with dissociadid, she was in a big drama with Trisha Paytas that was faking DID and then did an interview with Anthony Padilla that went viral. The film split was also a hit and impressionable teenagers got influence by it.

DID is extremely rare and seeing so many people in the same fandom claiming to have the same disease is ridiculous. Moreover, if you have DID, you are usually asked /forced to not be on social media or be online too much as it can lead to more delusion.

Thanks, I assume she has a thread here, I'll check it out.

I’m sure most of the kids in the MCYT fandom claiming to have DID are just wanting to roleplay multiple characters, and interact with Stan accounts, without the stigma that comes with being an RP account, because honestly it’s kind of ridiculous.

Probably depends on what platform you're on, but it seems like the people in discord just want to be the centre of attention. Of the ones I've seen, most of them talk exclusively about themselves.

 

[zettalow]

 

[cat merchant]

When did pretending to have DID get so popular? Is this what otherkins came up with to stop hating each other over picking the same person to kin?

I was looking in some MCYT related discords lately, and in BBH's discord, there's been more than one person come in and announce they have DID to everyone and them immediately start pretending like they're switching between 5 different people. The disc called them dumb and told them to fuck off.

However, I also took a look in Sapnap's discord, they have a long pin describing a bullshit version of DID with a glossary, and I've been told people have been banned for refusing to indulge others fantasies. Interestingly the pin isn't even in the rules channel, and it's added by a staff member who doesn't have Sapnap, or Dream, or anything else, added as a friend. I feel like the lunatics run the asylum.

It was already happening on tumblr, the tumblr migration just made it become big on twitter.

Kinnies are known to lie a lot while backstabbing each other constantly like an internet ouroboros. Mostly white american teens although there are exceptions.

 

[justalurkerr]

Fun fact about the DID theatrics going on;
The main thing we know about DID is that said “alters” or personalities won’t know each other or what each personality does. Like how some people with severe trauma can disassociate for months and then “wake up”.

it’s so painfully fake in the mcyt stan bullshit, but everyone’s too afraid to be called ableist to not lick their asses. Also pretty fucking common that they live out their fantasies and make their alters pedos, like Sapnap dating “Drista” or Dream dating Tommy.

 

[Novichops]

DID is extremely rare and seeing so many people in the same fandom claiming to have the same disease is ridiculous. Moreover, if you have DID, you are usually asked /forced to not be on social media or be online too much as it can lead to more delusion.

Yes, DID is extremely rare in adolescents, so I highly doubt this many people in the MCYT Twitter community are actually suffering from this.

I’m sure most of the kids in the MCYT fandom claiming to have DID are just wanting to roleplay multiple characters, and interact with Stan accounts, without the stigma that comes with being an RP account, because honestly it’s kind of ridiculous.

Fun fact about the DID theatrics going on;
The main thing we know about DID is that said “alters” or personalities won’t know each other or what each personality does. Like how some people with severe trauma can disassociate for months and then “wake up”.

it’s so painfully fake in the mcyt stan bullshit, but everyone’s too afraid to be called ableist to not lick their asses. Also pretty fucking common that they live out their fantasies and make their alters pedos, like Sapnap dating “Drista” or Dream dating Tommy.

I have a couple theories here:

Spoiler: Theory 1

I'm going to be nice here and say maybe not all of them are [intentionally] faking it. I think maybe mass hysteria/the nocebo effect could be playing a role here, especially seeing how easily people of that age are influenced by their surroundings. That combined with only an understanding of DID from Carrds and YouTubers like DissociaDID instead of actual papers done by medical professionals leads to what we have now.

Spoiler: Theory 2

Or perhaps they are actually faking it. In that case, this is not new for teenagers. A few years back, the cool thing to have was depression/anxiety, hence all those "edgy" posts you'd see on their social media. Sad fact, but faking mental illness is kind of expected from teenagers at this point.
I think this theory is less plausible than the first one, though.

 

[justalurkerr]

Yes, DID is extremely rare in adolescents, so I highly doubt this many people in the MCYT Twitter community are actually suffering from this.



I have a couple theories here:

Spoiler: Theory 1

I'm going to be nice here and say maybe not all of them are [intentionally] faking it. I think maybe mass hysteria/the nocebo effect could be playing a role here, especially seeing how easily people of that age are influenced by their surroundings. That combined with only an understanding of DID from Carrds and YouTubers like DissociaDID instead of actual papers done by medical professionals leads to what we have now.

Spoiler: Theory 2

Or perhaps they are actually faking it. In that case, this is not new for teenagers. A few years back, the cool thing to have was depression/anxiety, hence all those "edgy" posts you'd see on their social media. Sad fact, but faking mental illness is kind of expected from teenagers at this point.
I think this theory is less plausible than the first one, though.

I don’t doubt that majority of them are genuinely convinced that they have DID, especially considering that most of them have BPD diagnosed and a coping mechanism is to lie either for attention or to find comfort.

either way it’s fucking pathetic and I can’t wait until these kids are thrown back to school and have to explain that they failed their science test because their Ranboo alter is afraid of water.

 

[Novichops]

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Mildly OT but out of curiosity I’d like to know who the fuck that is

 

[I've Seen Some Shit]

It really is convenient how all 156,000,000 people on the entire planet with DID are all kids who like socially inept twinks playing Minecraft and were all self-diagnosed in the past year. And they're almost all exclusively American.

 

[ayy be see]

Mildly OT but out of curiosity I’d like to know who the fuck that is

My good sir there is a watermark in every single tiktok

 

[Novichops]

My good sir there is a watermark in every single tiktok

I know that, but the video/person just sort of came out of no where. Plus they reposted that Tyrone video to their account so I'm not sure if it's bait or genuine.

 

[thinking about mr hands]

I know that, but the video/person just sort of came out of no where. Plus they reposted that Tyrone video to their account so I'm not sure if it's bait or genuine.

I can’t download because internet down at the moment

But this TikTok here is reportedly them reacting to the “streamy’s” (whatever that is) so it looks like it’s an average kid? This video also supports that. It’s honestly hard to tell, because this would be a hella elaborate bait for just one video saying it’s a phase.