Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

Is JacobTMK the Fatman?

  • Yes! It's a deadringer!

    Votes: 305 13.2%
  • No! That's Dream!

    Votes: 1,713 74.1%
  • It's neither of them!

    Votes: 295 12.8%

  • Total voters
    2,313
Funny thing about this guy is that he’s actually a troon lol. This is his twitter.
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Claims to be trans and does nothing to even sound like a feminine so half of his viewers that don’t follow him on twitter don’t even know he’s a tranny.
Before he trooned out, he was tolerable, but after he made a community thread that just said "They/them", he started spamming grooming egg_irl memes and being fucking pain in the ass, they keep appearing in my recommended and they are always cringe as fuck.
 
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If you go in the replies to the "massive L to dream face reveal" comment, you'll find some Dream stan whose on copium so hardcore that I'm surprised he's still conscious. (you can look in that comment and see it for yourself)

"Tell me the links are not scams."
LUL


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For real though, this just convinces me someone needs to make a video that's not some bullshit white-knighting the fatman and expose the evidence. I mostly just wanna see the reactions of the stans as they keep trying to convince themselves daddy dweamy isnt fat.
 
Dream changes stances and stories more than he eats calories a day. The result is that Dream is a cheater and a liar, this should not be a debate. He intentionally cheated via his mod designed to cheat those exact things created for manhunt. Not to mention his 1.15 runs were under suspicion at the time he "admitted" to cheating on purpose "by accident"
The Speedrun Moderators have been trying to kill the rumors about the 1.15 runs for a month now. According to one of the Head Mods, they have zero evidence that supports any of his previous runs being faked. Apparently the only reason one of them went under suspicion was because their head verifier Casseroii has a huge hate boner for Clay and claimed she saw a splice.

When it turned out that there was no splice, she immediately backpedaled and disappeared for a month.

I don't understand why this Karl guy is trying to "dispell misinformation" that Dream spread himself. Whether it be due to the suggested not trying to be like the "gullible uninformed hatemob" or whether Dream had a hand in the video, this Karl guy clearly has quite a bias towards Dream compared to the Billy Mitchell guy. Dream and Mitchell are both just cheaters trying to get ahead of the competition, and Mitchell is probably quite the lolcow as well, as cheaters tend to be.

The main thing Karl was trying to disprove was the actual fake info that retards like H3H3 and Bowblax were spreading, while also saying "The evidence fits the timeline Dream presented more than the timeline everyone else assumed."

As it stands, though, the Moderators have verified basically everything Karl brought forward in the video, with at least one (KaptainWutax) being involved with gathering and providing info for Karl. Keep in mind that both Karl and Wutax were vocally losing respect for Clay by this point, yet the evidence was enough to sway over both of them. So if Clay was able to pull the wool over Karl and Wutax's eyes 8 months after this controversy, why not just feed the mods this claim back in October? He would've been able to remove the mod without getting in trouble and probably would've gotten decent leaderboard entries anyways.
 
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If you go in the replies to the "massive L to dream face reveal" comment, you'll find some Dream stan whose on copium so hardcore that I'm surprised he's still conscious. (you can look in that comment and see it for yourself)

"Tell me the links are not scams."
LUL


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For real though, this just convinces me someone needs to make a video that's not some bullshit white-knighting the fatman and expose the evidence. I mostly just wanna see the reactions of the stans as they keep trying to convince themselves daddy dweamy isnt fat.
Yes Stan, the links will cause us to DDOS your modem and cellphone tower.
 
The Speedrun Moderators have been trying to kill the rumors about the 1.15 runs for a month now. According to one of the Head Mods, they have zero evidence that supports any of his previous runs being faked. Apparently the only reason one of them went under suspicion was because their head verifier Casseroii has a huge hate boner for Clay and claimed she saw a splice.
Apparently this was the same person who Karl Jobst banned from his discord for being an annoying little prick who kept talking about Dream a few months back during the original investigation.
 
I swear some of these people are just the Tumblr leftovers that jumped ship to Twitter because Tumblr banned porn.
That’s pretty much it. Twitter already had a group of annoying tumblr users on the site before the ban, but after the ban most of them just migrated to the platform and brought all of the problems of the userbase with them.
 
Definitely not just you. I don't know what he's saying either.
I'll do my best to interpret it based on my understanding. God help me.
hello i know So many people have said this before but PLEASE tag (tag = basically a trigger warning before the main body of a tweet, commonly formatted as smth like "dream neg // *rest of tweet here*") neg (neg = criticism / anything that may be interpreted as criticism) of ccs (ccs - content creators) AND cs (cs - gonna be honest idk, but I'd hazard a guess at SMP characters?). obvs for hyperfix (hyperfixations = extreme obsessions supposed to occur in ADHD individuals and autistics), but even more importantly for d/as (d/as = delusional attachments, a type of delusional obsession occurring in psychotic people) and introjects (introject = an alter in a dissociative identity disorder 'system' that takes the form of a fictional character or real person...professionals are doubtful as to whether DID exists, let alone fictional alters, FYI). we (we = introjects) literally ARE the characters / people , so seeing neg just brings us down.
Aaaaand my brain has officially turned to mush. We as a species are doomed.
 
If you go in the replies to the "massive L to dream face reveal" comment, you'll find some Dream stan whose on copium so hardcore that I'm surprised he's still conscious. (you can look in that comment and see it for yourself)

"Tell me the links are not scams."
LUL


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For real though, this just convinces me someone needs to make a video that's not some bullshit white-knighting the fatman and expose the evidence. I mostly just wanna see the reactions of the stans as they keep trying to convince themselves daddy dweamy isnt fat.
>Link to the forum.
>First, may I know where you got this from?

???? What the flying fuck???
 
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this isn’t even funny it’s a bit horrifying at this point how far people will go to defend these guys

I don't know what this retard is trying to say. Am I.. am I a boomer?
Alright here's my attempt as someone who sees this type of stuff daily on Twitter:

First off the "##" in the display name followed by "wilbur". The "##" indicates an introject/the fact that they are psychotic, basically they are claiming to have dilusions or DID or OSDD or some variant of those illnesses. "Wilbur" meaning Wilbur Soot, so they think they are Wilbur Soot. I'm not sure what the ". . !" is, but I think that's just there for aesthetic.
>"hello i know So many people have said this before but PLEASE tag neg..."
This means: Hello, I know this has been said before, but please tag any criticism/negative comments ("neg" indicates negative connotation; "neg" is short for "negative")
Extra info: Typically tags are done like // (insert creator) neg. For example: // fundy neg
>"...of ccs AND cs..."
"cc" means "content creator" and "c" means "character" (so their DreamSMP character). Typically they are differentiated by putting "cc!" or "c!" followed by the name of the character or content creator.
For example: c!Ranboo (Ranboo the DreamSMP character) and cc!Ranboo (Ranboo the content creator)
>"...obvs for hyperfix..."
"hyperfix" means "hyperfixation" this is something mentally disabled/ill typically experience. People who are hyperfixated on something may react badly when faced with criticism of something they are fixated on depending on the person.
>"...more importantly for d/as and introjects. we literally ARE the characters/people, so seeing neg judt brings US down..."
This means: People with DID/dillusions think they are the content creators/characters, seeing negative comments directed at who they see as themselves is tiring for them.

Any further inquiries or is this enough?
 
Apparently this was the same person who Karl Jobst banned from his discord for being an annoying little prick who kept talking about Dream a few months back during the original investigation.
I remember bits and pieces of this while it was going on. A lot of them complaining about how much they hated Dream, and I actually wound up getting banned from the speedrun leaderboard for disagreeing with them on Karl's discord lol

Like it's one thing to be critical of Clay or just straight up dislike him. Look at this thread for instance. It's another to incessantly whine about how unfair it is that Clay's career wasn't destroyed by the Geosquare video, or claim that his family getting doxxed is justified because he cheated, or argue with anyone that disagrees with the idea that Clay isn't the devil incarnate.

Huh, I wonder if maybe he really isn't going to be fat anymore he face reveals. If he's actually doing a keto diet, how effective are those if you follow it strictly?
They can be fairly effective if you stick to them. I know my gf was able to go from ~170 down to 110 by the diet change, and that was with occasional cheat days.

Plus, unlike my gf, Clay is a multi-millionaire with a lot more resources at his disposal. As I've said before, he seems to be a fairly vain person, so I don't doubt he started working on his looks once he started growing in popularity.
 
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Sapnap (Dream’s roommate and friend) recently posted a picture where he seems to have lost a lot of weight
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Good on him. Wouldn’t be surprised if this gives Dream another leg up on the fatty pics, since if he’s following the same diet and is only 200ish pounds now he just needs a different haircut and he’ll be golden. The fact he hasn’t face revealed yet though makes me think it’s a work in progress if at all though- during the original drama all he had to do is snap a quick selfie and boom we’re completely embarrassed and the stans go apeshit. But he didn’t.
 
I remember bits and pieces of this while it was going on. A lot of them complaining about how much they hated Dream, and I actually wound up getting banned from the speedrun leaderboard for disagreeing with them on Karl's discord lol

Like it's one thing to be critical of Clay or just straight up dislike him. Look at this thread for instance. It's another to incessantly whine about how unfair it is that Clay's career wasn't destroyed by the Geosquare video, or claim that his family getting doxxed is justified because he cheated, or argue with anyone that disagrees with the idea that Clay isn't the devil incarnate.
Perhaps Clay wasn’t lying about the lack of objectivity and professionalism from the speedrun mods. From my encounters, they all seem rather childish and spiteful over the whole drama — but it seems Geosqaure himself has moved on.

And Christ, you got banned? Over an opinion? God that’s actually so retarded.

On another note, it seems Dream has been donating a fuck ton of cash to the mc speedrun community as sorts of reparations. It has been hilarious over the past few days seeing these runners tripping over themselves to get a donation from Dream. The attitudes have obviously changed.
 
Perhaps Clay wasn’t lying about the lack of objectivity and professionalism from the speedrun mods. From my encounters, they all seem rather childish and spiteful over the whole drama — but it seems Geosqaure himself has moved on.

And Christ, you got banned? Over an opinion? God that’s actually so retarded.

On another note, it seems Dream has been donating a fuck ton of cash to the mc speedrun community as sorts of reparations. It has been hilarious over the past few days seeing these runners tripping over themselves to get a donation from Dream. The attitudes have obviously changed.
Geosquare has definitely shown a lot of maturity on his part, and more power to him. Hopefully the other moderators and Clay can take a page from his book, though realistically only Geo and Clay are gonna come out of this for the better.

From my own understanding, a majority of the Speedrun team is 18-20, with the oldest members being around 24. I'm not going to judge all of them because a few are retards, especially since their initial documents were fairly professional, but behind the scenes Wutax and April both admit the investigation should have stopped in October and been closed with a post saying the run couldn't be verified.

After all, Clay was straightforward with one thing: If the recording mod was running, which we now know it was, it optimized chunkloading beyond what Vanilla can ordinarily do. Helpful for recording videos on multiplayer, but technically against the speedrun rules, which should have disqualified the run in the first place.

As for my ban, it's retarded, but since I only had one run submitted I was moreso surprised that they were getting that butthurt over someone partially disagreeing with them.

On another note, it seems Dream has been donating a fuck ton of cash to the mc speedrun community as sorts of reparations. It has been hilarious over the past few days seeing these runners tripping over themselves to get a donation from Dream. The attitudes have obviously changed.
I've noticed that too. I mean money is money, but it's kinda disingenuous for them to suddenly start acting like Clay's their best friend in the hopes that he'll drop a couple grand their way. I'd almost be less disappointed if they still treated him like the devil in disguise.
 
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