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From my experience, the smart people look inwardly at what did well and what did not.
BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.
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These look like any of the other YouTube channels run by female millenials who just talk about childrens novels or tumblr trends. There's a ton of stuff like that. It's actually amazing there's still a market for it since there's such an absolute glut of supply.BreadTube does not only have to compete with BreadTube; it also has to compete with thousands of commentary channels led by American middle-class progressive zoomers and millennials. Because I watch a few left-of-centre channels, I get recommended their content all the time. Examples:
I am not interested in any of this stuff. At this point, I could ghostwrite for these channels: each of their videos is so predictable it feels auto-generated.
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They sort of are, in a certain way. I'm relatively sure that a lot of those channels (including "viral" channels like NowThis and similar) have their video topics and major keynotes sent to them by a management firm.
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Just look up academic philosophy lectures if you're actually interested in learning something.
Breadtubers aren't going to teach you anything.
Seven Costanza
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Imagine traveling back in time and explaining to someone that the thing that causes 21st century leftists to seethe above all else was the presence of working class people in and around a government building.
Yes, I know, Trump is a degenerate, MAGA is full of weirdos, the "riot" was heavily infiltrated by glowies, etc... Still, this rising wave of populism is inspiring in its own way and you'd think that any responsible leftists -- the folks who wax lyrical about "dialectics" and "material conditions" -- would be interested in something resembling a proper analysis beyond regurgitating talking points identical to those made by the same govt/corp/media axis they claim to hate.
Derrick Jensen made a similar observation regarding the 2014 "Bundy standoff." These ranch niggas were doing the type of shit leftists always talk about but were immediately dismissed on account of their "right-wing" beliefs. Such gay worthless surface-level analysis coming from these BreadTube cucks. Kropotkin would smack them upside the head with a stale loaf of sourdough.
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Minor disagree on this. Kropotkin was born a land-owning aristocrat. Engels was a factory owner. Don't even get me started on Marx. This phenomena of far-leftists not actually being champions of the working class is often made out to be a new thing, that the left has "changed". I don't believe that for a minute. The reality is that working class people tend to be the most socially conservative, and always have been. It really isn't possible for highly-educated far-left intellectuals to align with working class people, not as long as they push social liberalism and dismiss religion as the opiate of the masses, at least. Far-leftism has always just been the product of the bourgeois system it claims to hate.
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"Breadtube" just like Chomsky before them and Sanders contemporarily, see no enemies to the left. In this case though, 'to the left' I mean anyone nominally on it rather than those further on the scale than themselves. This is part of being a good leftist, and why those that have some credibility on breaking with the braintrust, be it Michael Tracey or Aaron Mate, are denounced as traitors.
Think for a moment what they've been cheering for - the empowerment of the central National Security apparatus because one now-out-of-office politician had views that amounted to the biggest break from the foreign policy establishment since the start of the Cold War. This, and outright xenophobia to all things Russian or Russians (I remember seeing some 'liberals' imply nefarious motives because a couple of Trump buddies had Russian or Ukrainian spouses).
Why do they do this? Why can't they look at the larger picture? Because the actual ruling class, center left social liberals, can always buttonhole them with distractions on race, no matter how contrived, which to them is the worst and most unforgivable sin. There is a reason the central state does not view 'breadtube' as a threat, none of them will ever be deplatformed. They are completely within the spectrum of acceptable views that the ruling class has dictated for them. In effect, YT socialism was always completely bourgeois and non threatening, but they will never come to grips with it.
Think for a moment what they've been cheering for - the empowerment of the central National Security apparatus because one now-out-of-office politician had views that amounted to the biggest break from the foreign policy establishment since the start of the Cold War. This, and outright xenophobia to all things Russian or Russians (I remember seeing some 'liberals' imply nefarious motives because a couple of Trump buddies had Russian or Ukrainian spouses).
Why do they do this? Why can't they look at the larger picture? Because the actual ruling class, center left social liberals, can always buttonhole them with distractions on race, no matter how contrived, which to them is the worst and most unforgivable sin. There is a reason the central state does not view 'breadtube' as a threat, none of them will ever be deplatformed. They are completely within the spectrum of acceptable views that the ruling class has dictated for them. In effect, YT socialism was always completely bourgeois and non threatening, but they will never come to grips with it.
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There is more under the surface than these people even know
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If there's one group all should despise the most, we should all hate the upper middle class whose resentment towards those higher up the food chain and those lower as "uneducated dullards" without taking stock in truly how blessed they are and realize that their group has been the greatest cause for chaos in the 19th-21st century.
Not to mention anyone with a serious Philosophy major or Sociology major that isn't accompanying any other field should be immediately be sentenced to grinding work until they appreciate their lot in life.
Not to mention anyone with a serious Philosophy major or Sociology major that isn't accompanying any other field should be immediately be sentenced to grinding work until they appreciate their lot in life.
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Here's a copy of Caleb Maupin's new book Breadtube Serves Imperialism: Examining The New Brand of Internet Pseudo-Socialism.
Credit to @Arm Pit Cream for sharing this with me.
Credit to @Arm Pit Cream for sharing this with me.
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True. I think I was intimidated by how official "university lectures" sound even if there's no real reason to. Maybe some breadtubers bank on this uncertainty and take liberties with accurately presenting the info. (That said, I'll have a look at that anti-woke channel too)
If it's reacting to woke content I sort of understand because breadtube itself has pretty long videos and streams so responding to it creates content no one has the time to watch whole and repeatedly. Still, some effort should be made in terms of presentation, I guess. Ideally it would be somewhere between no editting and what breadtube does now, but I could be biased. I hated how overly decorated and stuffed with filling everything was even when I liked libleft content.
Thank you for those playlists!
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So I went around and found some channels in the socialist sphere of Youtube.
The title that got me was "Why Capitalism is killing us (and the planet)", yeah mate, remember that time where the gigantic capitalist corporations of the USSR destroyed the Aral sea?
The first video is about eco-fascism and how it's white supremacist, all I know about Eco-fascism comes from memes, but I do know a thing or two about Fascism proper, one of those things is that it isn't an ideology of racial supremacy, Mussolini didn't believe in race and Mosley was repulsed by the way non-whites were treated in the Empire, people treat Fascism and National Socialism as one and the same when that is incorrect but I won't go on about all the diferences they have, atleast not now.
The video about weather Evo Morales Eco-Socialism worked, the answer is no since it never really existed, Evo increased mining operations and deforestation rather drastically, the deforestations actually caused a good chunk of the Amazon in the side of Bolivia to burn and the mining left a lot of indian comunities upset since quite a few of them had to be moved, a lot of that stoped when Evo got couped by the glowies forcing him to jump around the entire continent in search of help and asylum, thankfully he had his underage girlfriend with him so he wasn't alone.
I'm only going to talk about the video on Cuba since that title made me angry, the title says "How Cuban agriculture went from industrial to sustainable", the answer is rather simple, it was thanks to bad economic policies, oh, and do you want to know what the paradise of sustainable Cuban agriculture looks like? Well, there a food shortages and people need to form in line in order to recieve bottles of water, the plumbing system in a lot of towns and cities is completly broken so people don't have running water during most of the day, there's so little industry that the few people that have cars have old ones from the 60s while most other people have to use horses and mules for transportation, a notable expection to that are members of the communist party who weirdly enough, whenever they go abroad in a non-official capacity they show up driving expensive modern cars, wearing expensive clothing and stay at the most expensive hotel, Communists am I right?
this is the first that I found, a socialist version of PragerU
Some videos
Richard Wolff is a quack and he doesn't know anything about History or Economics, also that video about how socialists solved the housing crisis, how and where? The Soviets had those commie blocks of hell that makes everyone in Eastern and Central Europe feel depressed just by looking them and in China you have good looking apartment blocks from the outside that are absolute shit from the inside, without mentioning how prone they are to collapse just few years after being built.
I don't know what to say about this one.
Some videos
The video about weather Evo Morales Eco-Socialism worked, the answer is no since it never really existed, Evo increased mining operations and deforestation rather drastically, the deforestations actually caused a good chunk of the Amazon in the side of Bolivia to burn and the mining left a lot of indian comunities upset since quite a few of them had to be moved, a lot of that stoped when Evo got couped by the glowies forcing him to jump around the entire continent in search of help and asylum, thankfully he had his underage girlfriend with him so he wasn't alone.
I'm only going to talk about the video on Cuba since that title made me angry, the title says "How Cuban agriculture went from industrial to sustainable", the answer is rather simple, it was thanks to bad economic policies, oh, and do you want to know what the paradise of sustainable Cuban agriculture looks like? Well, there a food shortages and people need to form in line in order to recieve bottles of water, the plumbing system in a lot of towns and cities is completly broken so people don't have running water during most of the day, there's so little industry that the few people that have cars have old ones from the 60s while most other people have to use horses and mules for transportation, a notable expection to that are members of the communist party who weirdly enough, whenever they go abroad in a non-official capacity they show up driving expensive modern cars, wearing expensive clothing and stay at the most expensive hotel, Communists am I right?
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I’ve known about the gravel institute for a while and always dismissed them as the same pathetic midwit shit that pragerU is but I’ve always held a particular dismissal towards gravel for simply being “WhErE gOnNa OwN dA cHuDs” and having that fraud Richard Wolff on.
Second channel never heard of and for good reason, because they’re fucking retarded, and their titles scream of buzzfeed clickbait. I can tell before I even click on the video it’s gonna be some soy filled bugman waving his arms around saying why capitalism bad and going on about racism or something.
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PragerU is mostly generic dumb neo-con shit, yet a lot of breadtube/leftist channels have a massive hateboner for them, making long and boring videos or in the case of the Gravel Institute, making essentially the same shit PragerU does but for Socialism.
This is one of the reasons why a lot of people don't take enviromentalists seriously, because they act like like the world is going to end in like 5 years unless we all just go vegan, smash capitalism and all of that shit.
Oh and he also has videos about Greta the potatohead, Trump, Covid-19 and the green new deal
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The amount of outright lies and fabrication involved with manufacturing an anti-CO2 campaign (despite empirical evidence showing that the greenhouse effect is not how the Earth gets the majority of its energy budget) should make anyone skeptical of the intentions of the people promoting that stuff. If they're not simply incapable of reading the science or bugmen chasing a trend, then they have to be incredibly cynical in order to make up lies as grandiose as they do. Because there is no scientific evidence that supports the allegation that humans are warming the planet with CO2.
Even the IPCC was recently forced to change their modeling guidelines because it was publicized that their model didn't take into account clouds, ocean cycles, electromagnetism, or solar activity outside the infra-red. Which essentially means every source of heating and cooling the Earth is susceptible to was not modeled, and the discrepancy was blamed on humans.
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You would think more environmentalists would bother reading Uncle Teds “Industrial society and its future” but they are all corporate stooges.
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I see this with a lot with Americans and it weirds me out how they say "I'm poor" but also talk about ordering shit from Amazon daily. These people can even fathom what the actual poor is
He's already coping
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The thing is, there are absolutely things to be concerned about.
Most of them are to do with the soon-to-be billions of niggers and their locust-like appetites, or investment into national parks and preventing the complete paving over of the British Isles and Western Europe.
Not only that, but the terraforming of unusable land into something more green would be a massive boom for stabilising the climate - increasing rainfall in central Australia could be achieved with a series of canals from its North to its Center.
But apparently that money is better spent on breeding niggers.
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I think it becomes obvious very quickly reading his magnum opus that contemporary environmental activists are targets of derision and hate for Ted. They're the archetypal leftists which he despises.
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its funny that the most well known historical communist that didnt have a privileged background was stalin