Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

Well, Trump's advisor launched a new social media website and it's being spammed with Sonic the Hedgehog porn.

And Trump just announced a lawsuit against Facebook and Twitter that's never going to succeed or probably even get in a courtroom.
Ah, this is it, Trump's glorious return, just before he is reinstated in August. Plan: trusted! Sonic porn is indicitative of Trump's inevitable victory
 
Poverty is a bigger issue among blacks because of several factors. Being economically disenfranchised for about 300 years is going to seriously fuck with the accumulation of wealth. Poverty takes a lot of time to climb out of generationally speaking. Being forced to move around due to housing costs and/or having your house demolished to build a freeway also fucks with your wealth quite a bit. When you start behind, it takes a long time to catch up and it’s even harder when the system actively attempted to kick the ladder away for a century.
I'm gonna call absolute bullshit here - that's just not an answer.

Compare the state of American blacks to most Europeans, including those in direct proxy to larger economic powers like Ireland or Poland, and then compare to blacks. It absolutely does not stand up to any scrutiny - the system actively kicking away the ladder is more of a desperate attempt to preserve itself.

It exceeds even that of modern Donbas, an actual warzone in Ukraine - the average income and living standard of American blacks also exceeds most of the world in real and relative terms.


This is objectively, at the time this video was set, safer than practically any majority black area in the USA.
 
I'm gonna call absolute bullshit here - that's just not an answer.

Compare the state of American blacks to most Europeans, including those in direct proxy to larger economic powers like Ireland or Poland, and then compare to blacks. It absolutely does not stand up to any scrutiny - the system actively kicking away the ladder is more of a desperate attempt to preserve itself.

It exceeds even that of modern Donbas, an actual warzone in Ukraine - the average income and living standard of American blacks also exceeds most of the world in real and relative terms.


This is objectively, at the time this video was set, safer than practically any majority black area in the USA.
I'm guessing you're Irish, so I'm going to make this quite simple. The situation for blacks in America was like that of the Irish Catholics under the Penal Laws in a lot of the country, even after emancipation, and before that even fucking worse. Think about how fucking poorly off your average Irishman was in 1829. That's a pretty similar situation to the Black community in the US in oh, 1964. Did Ireland catch up to the rest of the UK by the 1880’s in terms of wealth?

EDIT: Also that was a post from months back why the hell did you quote post it?
 
I'm guessing you're Irish, so I'm going to make this quite simple. The situation for blacks in America was like that of the Irish Catholics under the Penal Laws in a lot of the country, even after emancipation, and before that even fucking worse. Think about how fucking poorly off your average Irishman was in 1829. That's a pretty similar situation to the Black community in the US in oh, 1964. Did Ireland catch up to the rest of the UK by the 1880’s in terms of wealth?

EDIT: Also that was a post from months back why the hell did you quote post it?
Racists get butthurt when you point out that systematic racism did/still does exist and that the White Man did do bad things in history.
 
I'm guessing you're Irish, so I'm going to make this quite simple. The situation for blacks in America was like that of the Irish Catholics under the Penal Laws in a lot of the country, even after emancipation, and before that even fucking worse. Think about how fucking poorly off your average Irishman was in 1829. That's a pretty similar situation to the Black community in the US in oh, 1964. Did Ireland catch up to the rest of the UK by the 1880’s in terms of wealth?

EDIT: Also that was a post from months back why the hell did you quote post it?
Aha, no, not even a little bit similar.

Not even close like, the Republic was around 40% GDP per Capita compared to the UK by 1990.

Why the fuck would you even try comparing the two? Do you have any idea how poor Ireland actually was? Jesus Fucking Christ, did literally 25% of the entire black population die in four years or something? We had absolute poverty in the UK by the 1970s, a bit of a factor in that "Troubles" thing you may have heard of - you know, the battling paramilitaries which killed more than the KKK ever did, despite operating in an area a tenth the population of the former Confederacy.

Again. It doesn't line up. None of it does. You clearly have no fucking clue what Ireland was like, despite the fact that this was directly related to American history - you have no clue what Ireland is currently like, either, or when the two changed, since all the way up until Facebook and Google set up offices in Dublin, the GDP was closer to that of Eastern Europe than the rest of Western Europe.

Despite all of this, the worst year in modern history for the entirety of Ireland was 1973 for civil violence - the year when hundreds were killed when the two major Paramilitaries in Northern Ireland started shooting eachother en masse.

In 1973, Belfast was still safer than Baltimore.

The PIRA and the UVF fighting eachother is still safer than "Black Teens" - fantastic, isn't it?

Perhaps you should actually look into Irish history a little more. Or British, or French, or Belgian, German, Dutch - or Ukrainian, Polish, Russian, Finnish, maybe the Baltic states, even Former Yugoslavia - all would be disgusted by the idea that you think of them the same way you think of these grotesque rioting freaks beating raccoons to death because "we wuz kangz" - this is the most pure form of the "Ignorant American" trope, you have no idea what the rest of the world is like, or in numbers or attitudes, yet shove niggers down everybody else's throats.

Racists get butthurt when you point out that systematic racism did/still does exist and that the White Man did do bad things in history.
No, I think the Americans have made a critical mistake and are treating horrifically violent freaks like they are somehow elegant or "misunderstood" - there's no misunderstanding to be seen, and the only way you do it is by lying openly about the nature of Europeans. You play on the ignorance of rich people by trying to persuade them that all poor white people behave like niggers - there's no proof of this, it's an overt lie which you repeat despite how brazenly offensive it is to every single none-black group on the planet.

It reminds me of Sri Lanka getting offended by the New Orleans looting - when the USA commented that the behaviour shown by blacks in New Orleans was "Third World", an actual Third World Country interrupted with the comment "Excuse me, we third worlders aren't that bad"
 
No, I think the Americans have made a critical mistake and are treating horrifically violent freaks like they are somehow elegant or "misunderstood" - there's no misunderstanding to be seen, and the only way you do it is by lying openly about the nature of Europeans. You play on the ignorance of rich people by trying to persuade them that all poor white people behave like niggers - there's no proof of this, it's an overt lie which you repeat despite how brazenly offensive it is to every single none-black group on the planet.

It reminds me of Sri Lanka getting offended by the New Orleans looting - when the USA commented that the behaviour shown by blacks in New Orleans was "Third World", an actual Third World Country interrupted with the comment "Excuse me, we third worlders aren't that bad"
It also affects other blacks, by the way, who also find the behaviour of African-Americans to be like that of spoiled children.

It goes over the same shit again and again - the only way you could possibly believe that the behaviour of blacks is remotely in-line with the supposedly evil, and let's be realistic, barely inconvenient history is if you either have no idea what the rest of the world looked like at the same time, or even to the modern day.

Look at Russia or Ukraine - poverty by a global standard is common, actual warzones not uncommon in the region, Belarus is an outright dictatorship, all have a lower murder rate than black Americans. Black Americans have a murder rate of around 15 per capita. Google deliberately makes this number hard to find. Russia is 8. Imagine having a murder rate almost double that of Russia.

Compare it with Indochina, with the Vietnam War and Pol Pot, or Laos with its many many landmines - all lower than American blacks by such an extent that they're even lower than the "watered-down" figure for America as a whole.

Ireland and the Eastern EU are even more dramatic - Poland has a murder rate lower than the safest American state, Maine, despite being Poland, a country for whom poverty and "the largest war in human history" took place largely inside of it.

Amazingly, the only places you can compare black Americans to and have the data make sense are Mesoamerican-majority Latin American countries - for whom extreme violence is practically sacrosanct - and... oh, African countries. The few majority black countries where they actually bother doing paperwork.

And by black standards, America is practically a paradise - the black American murder rate, assuming that it isn't artificially lowered by the number of unsolved murders in black-majority areas, is lower than Jamaica or South Africa, so hey, victory, right?
 
Aha, no, not even a little bit similar.

Not even close like, the Republic was around 40% GDP per Capita compared to the UK by 1990.

Why the fuck would you even try comparing the two? Do you have any idea how poor Ireland actually was? Jesus Fucking Christ, did literally 25% of the entire black population die in four years or something? We had absolute poverty in the UK by the 1970s, a bit of a factor in that "Troubles" thing you may have heard of - you know, the battling paramilitaries which killed more than the KKK ever did, despite operating in an area a tenth the population of the former Confederacy.

Again. It doesn't line up. None of it does. You clearly have no fucking clue what Ireland was like, despite the fact that this was directly related to American history - you have no clue what Ireland is currently like, either, or when the two changed, since all the way up until Facebook and Google set up offices in Dublin, the GDP was closer to that of Eastern Europe than the rest of Western Europe.

Despite all of this, the worst year in modern history for the entirety of Ireland was 1973 for civil violence - the year when hundreds were killed when the two major Paramilitaries in Northern Ireland started shooting eachother en masse.

In 1973, Belfast was still safer than Baltimore.

The PIRA and the UVF fighting eachother is still safer than "Black Teens" - fantastic, isn't it?

Perhaps you should actually look into Irish history a little more. Or British, or French, or Belgian, German, Dutch - or Ukrainian, Polish, Russian, Finnish, maybe the Baltic states, even Former Yugoslavia - all would be disgusted by the idea that you think of them the same way you think of these grotesque rioting freaks beating raccoons to death because "we wuz kangz" - this is the most pure form of the "Ignorant American" trope, you have no idea what the rest of the world is like, or in numbers or attitudes, yet shove niggers down everybody else's throats.


No, I think the Americans have made a critical mistake and are treating horrifically violent freaks like they are somehow elegant or "misunderstood" - there's no misunderstanding to be seen, and the only way you do it is by lying openly about the nature of Europeans. You play on the ignorance of rich people by trying to persuade them that all poor white people behave like niggers - there's no proof of this, it's an overt lie which you repeat despite how brazenly offensive it is to every single none-black group on the planet.

It reminds me of Sri Lanka getting offended by the New Orleans looting - when the USA commented that the behaviour shown by blacks in New Orleans was "Third World", an actual Third World Country interrupted with the comment "Excuse me, we third worlders aren't that bad"
You didn’t answer the question. Did the economic power of the average Irishman catch up to the rest of the UK in 60 years? For that matter, so many of the Irish came here, where they did often times become criminals. There’s an Irish mob in pretty much every major city in the northeastern US, and Irish street gangs made NYC infamous during the later 1900’s. Oh, and you can bet they rioted. So fuck off with your ranting screed and answer the fucking question. Was the average Irishman as well off as the average Englishman in 1890?
 
You didn’t answer the question. Did the economic power of the average Irishman catch up to the rest of the UK in 60 years? For that matter, so many of the Irish came here, where they did often times become criminals. There’s an Irish mob in pretty much every major city in the northeastern US, and Irish street gangs made NYC infamous during the later 1900’s. Oh, and you can bet they rioted. So fuck off with your ranting screed and answer the fucking question. Was the average Irishman as well off as the average Englishman in 1890?
Of course not, some Irish had overt poverty right up until the 90s, with shit like malnutrition in childhood leading to a shocking amount of stunted growth among Irish-British and Irish Travellers.

The average Irishman also has a crime rate less than the average English citizen (thanks to black and South Asian immigrants) - this was always the case, the two behaved in a similar manner, even Ireland at its very worst in Northern Ireland at the tippy-top of the Troubles, when they were shooting down helicopters with .50 cal machine guns and car bombings were a daily occurrence, with constant severe riots and open gun battles between paramilitaries, the police and the fucking British Army were patrolling the streets in armoured cars, was still safer than modern-day Detroit.

"They rioted" so show me a single time in American history where Irish immigrants had a similar crime rate to blacks. Can't be hard to find, can it?

Does the concept of scale just not exist in your brain, or something? Severity - stealing a quid off the floor of a shop is the same as robbing a bank and killing everybody inside?

Do you have any idea how brazenly offensive you are to Europeans, by the way? What, because of the fact that people were forced into homeless poverty, I should start beating elderly Asians? Why would I forgo basic human decency in case of poverty? You must have a fucking disgusting opinion of poor Europeans if you think we're even comparable to black Americans, as a group.

I am well aware of the Irish mob, I'm also aware of the Italian mafia, the Orange Order in the American South too, the fact you think these are even closely comparable to modern American blacks shows me that you have a fucking disgusting, misshapen opinion of the world and should really travel more.
 
Of course not, some Irish had overt poverty right up until the 90s, with shit like malnutrition in childhood leading to a shocking amount of stunted growth among Irish-British and Irish Travellers.

The average Irishman also has a crime rate less than the average English citizen (thanks to black and South Asian immigrants) - this was always the case, the two behaved in a similar manner, even Ireland at its very worst in Northern Ireland at the tippy-top of the Troubles, when they were shooting down helicopters with .50 cal machine guns and car bombings were a daily occurrence, with constant severe riots and open gun battles between paramilitaries, the police and the fucking British Army were patrolling the streets in armoured cars, was still safer than modern-day Detroit.

"They rioted" so show me a single time in American history where Irish immigrants had a similar crime rate to blacks. Can't be hard to find, can it?

Does the concept of scale just not exist in your brain, or something? Severity - stealing a quid off the floor of a shop is the same as robbing a bank and killing everybody inside?

Do you have any idea how brazenly offensive you are to Europeans, by the way? What, because of the fact that people were forced into homeless poverty, I should start beating elderly Asians? Why would I forgo basic human decency in case of poverty? You must have a fucking disgusting opinion of poor Europeans if you think we're even comparable to black Americans, as a group.

I am well aware of the Irish mob, I'm also aware of the Italian mafia, the Orange Order in the American South too, the fact you think these are even closely comparable to modern American blacks shows me that you have a fucking disgusting, misshapen opinion of the world and should really travel more.
I will also bring up the notorious Jewish Mafia, probably the most depraved of all the 20th century "American" mafias, made up of Jews fleeing from Poland and Russia. It is also called the Russian mafia, but this is incorrect, as the Russians and the Poles refer to it as "Jewish"

This one is more interesting because it was allegedly a front for the Soviet NKVD and is the source of many American "cultural problems" - like this idea that apparently Ireland had a murder rate of 15 and were frothing at the bit to beat raccoons to death on film for most of their history, despite the fact that both the Irish and the English governments recorded much of what happened in Ireland and it's clear that this is such a load of absolute bullshit that you'd have to be an indocrinated retard to believe it for even half a second.
 
Of course not, some Irish had overt poverty right up until the 90s, with shit like malnutrition in childhood leading to a shocking amount of stunted growth among Irish-British and Irish Travellers.

The average Irishman also has a crime rate less than the average English citizen (thanks to black and South Asian immigrants) - this was always the case, the two behaved in a similar manner, even Ireland at its very worst in Northern Ireland at the tippy-top of the Troubles, when they were shooting down helicopters with .50 cal machine guns and car bombings were a daily occurrence, with constant severe riots and open gun battles between paramilitaries, the police and the fucking British Army were patrolling the streets in armoured cars, was still safer than modern-day Detroit.

"They rioted" so show me a single time in American history where Irish immigrants had a similar crime rate to blacks. Can't be hard to find, can it?

Does the concept of scale just not exist in your brain, or something? Severity - stealing a quid off the floor of a shop is the same as robbing a bank and killing everybody inside?

Do you have any idea how brazenly offensive you are to Europeans, by the way? What, because of the fact that people were forced into homeless poverty, I should start beating elderly Asians? Why would I forgo basic human decency in case of poverty? You must have a fucking disgusting opinion of poor Europeans if you think we're even comparable to black Americans, as a group.

I am well aware of the Irish mob, I'm also aware of the Italian mafia, the Orange Order in the American South too, the fact you think these are even closely comparable to modern American blacks shows me that you have a fucking disgusting, misshapen opinion of the world and should really travel more.
To go into more detail - the Irish Mob never once held a level of violence and crime anywhere near to the level seen in blacks even at the time, but particularly in the modern day.

It genuinely disgusts me that the Irish are being slandered like this, these were Irish speakers, primarily, and a full third of them died on the voyages to Australia and the USA. The coffin ships were a real problem. Despite all of that, and the fact most were from the poorest areas of Ireland, which were also Irish-speaking so there was a language barrier, and they still held proud and didn't immediately behave the way blacks do - at all, infact. They were disliked, not just because they were Irish but because the Gaeltacht Irish were, at the time, the furthest reach of Western Europe and a strange alien race to most Europeans at the time. Naturally, this ran alongside the general sectarianism of the world at the time, so there were problems.

Despite all of this, the Irish were still somewhat pleasant. The idea that apparently Irish Catholics, exclusively in the USA, were behaving in a way which no Irishmen have ever been recorded to behave by any of the countries involved - Australia didn't record this, New Zealand didn't, South Africa didn't, Canada didn't, Ireland itself didn't and the UK didn't, nor did any European country which associated with the Irish - I want to see your actual data here, how did you get "Detroit levels of crime" from a modern murder rate of 1 and a historic high of 33?

None of this stands up to any kind of scrutiny - it's outright insulting that you seem to think that Catholics apparently behave like niggers. This is a massive insult, why the fuck would you continue to push this? You have no evidence for it and are just being blatantly offensive to justify your horrifying opinions.
 
Deep down you know that the Hibernian race is inherently inferior, just like the Dago and the Polack.

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You didn’t answer the question. Did the economic power of the average Irishman catch up to the rest of the UK in 60 years? For that matter, so many of the Irish came here, where they did often times become criminals. There’s an Irish mob in pretty much every major city in the northeastern US, and Irish street gangs made NYC infamous during the later 1900’s. Oh, and you can bet they rioted. So fuck off with your ranting screed and answer the fucking question. Was the average Irishman as well off as the average Englishman in 1890?
 
Someone give a potato to this fella.

Rightoids don't want to face racism, it bothers their simpiistic world view built on YouTube videos and questionable books.

Though I wouldn't say white people as a whole is responsible, but the Ruling Class who committed the attrocities and elevated racism to an ideology and system of control. Common whites were (are) exploited but they were also told since they were white it wasn't so bad, whiteness became a mystical trait that put them above the savages even if they lived more or less in the primitive squalor and did the same backbreaking labor.
 
Someone give a potato to this fella.

Rightoids don't want to face racism, it bothers their simpiistic world view built on YouTube videos and questionable books.

Though I wouldn't say white people as a whole is responsible, but the Ruling Class who committed the attrocities and elevated racism to an ideology and system of control. Common whites were (are) exploited but they were also told since they were white it wasn't so bad, whiteness became a mystical trait that put them above the savages even if they lived more or less in the primitive squalor and did the same backbreaking labor.
This is partially true.

But to insinuate that an Irish woman is more likely to be aggressively raped than to be literate, as is the case for several African countries, is just insulting.

This exact same ruling class is the one which opened fire on Irish civilian protestors while simultaneously allowing police officers to be beaten to death in the same country, by blacks.

The exact same ruling class which pushes for an increase in Paki and Black officers in the West Midlands police department while martyring George Floyd, an American man, while conveniently forgetting that they tortured and imprisoned six random Irishmen, then tried to cover up this fact by destroying evidence related to their innocence.

The exact same ruling class which, in the USA, allowed blacks to drag random white civilians out of their trucks and beat them to death in full view of circling cameras - while also burning down the few whites who want to live in a compound in Texas.

The exact same ruling class in the USA which demands additional protections for themselves following the Oklahoma City Bombing, citing that white nationalists are the #1 threat to "national security" when it's black gangsters breaking into white neighbourhoods, killing the occupants and stealing their possessions, while their visibly retarded pets stand in the Mayor's office decrying how bad the poor blacks have it.

Maybe you would have had a point if you were referring to Northern Ireland or Donbas or some other vaguely defined battle between different ethnic groups, but fuck me, you look at the USA and think that the victims are black?

The ones living in major cities, all within walking distance of major transit terminals who hold your country hostage demanding additional funds be diverted to them? Where exactly are the "Officers" of these "Street gangs"? They're in the fucking offices, directing the street gangs to target and torment the minorities within "their" cities, shaking them down for all they have. This is a major problem I have yet to see sufficiently answered - has anybody actually checked where exactly the Mayors and the Councillors and the bureaucratic wings of local government in major American cities are getting their support from? It seems more likely than not that the enormous drug problem and black gangs are directly connected to your politics, since the senior black gangsters are, unsurprisingly, far sharper and more fitted for governance than Lori fucking Lightfoot.

How exactly is this Ruling Class not black? Black gangsters rule many of your major cities, Jews run Hollywood and activley promote it, common whites are nowhere to be seen within politics or government. The difference between how common white Americans speak and how your politicians speak is night and day, whereas many common white Americans seem to be quite intelligent and reasonable, your politicians seem like they spend their nights shooting children from a moving vehicle while rapping.
 
You sound like those headlines from the 30s about marihuana filled Negroes chasing chaste and virtuous white women.
I have no idea what that means. I am not American, nor am I a 90 year old man. Why do you people insist on America being the only country that exists in the world? When I was younger I thought that was Republicans, but they atleast have some idea that not every country in the world is like America.
 
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