Battletech - Also known as Trannytech

To add to what @RomanesEuntDomus said, CV's can be very, very good at what they do. The last thing you want to do (and probably will do anyways) in a city fight is turn the corner and see a Demolisher sitting there with its pair of AC/20's.
A gun is a gun is a gun. You don't even have to go as far as a memetic behemoth like a Demolisher. As someone who has rushed an Assault 'Mech into the field of fire of two SRM carriers (that's a total of a hundred and twenty SRM tubes, kids!) and got all his frontal armor sandblasted in a single turn of firing, I can attest that you ignore vehicles at your own damn risk.

In my defense, it was a calculated risk and my Assault did destroy both SRM carriers in the same shooting phase. It must have looked really cool in-universe, a Highlander being barraged by a whole Macross worth of missiles, flinching and shuddering with the ceaseless impacts, yet still managing to blow up both attackers through the cloud of flames, smoke and shrapnel.

I just hope they cut the bit out of the holovid where my pilot failed the piloting skill roll against massive damage and faceplanted immediately afterwards.

That was 120 tons of vehicles, for the price of most of one of my 'Mechs's armor. You win some, you lose some.
 
A gun is a gun is a gun. You don't even have to go as far as a memetic behemoth like a Demolisher. As someone who has rushed an Assault 'Mech into the field of fire of two SRM carriers (that's a total of a hundred and twenty SRM tubes, kids!) and got all his frontal armor sandblasted in a single turn of firing, I can attest that you ignore vehicles at your own damn risk.

In my defense, it was a calculated risk and my Assault did destroy both SRM carriers in the same shooting phase. It must have looked really cool in-universe, a Highlander being barraged by a whole Macross worth of missiles, flinching and shuddering with the ceaseless impacts, yet still managing to blow up both attackers through the cloud of flames, smoke and shrapnel.

I just hope they cut the bit out of the holovid where my pilot failed the piloting skill roll against massive damage and faceplanted immediately afterwards.

That was 120 tons of vehicles, for the price of most of one of my 'Mechs's armor. You win some, you lose some.
I'm imagining the pilot screaming like a madman during the whole thing, dropping to the ground in front of the smoldering wreckages and giving a weak "I'm good" over comms after a brief pause.
 
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A gun is a gun is a gun. You don't even have to go as far as a memetic behemoth like a Demolisher. As someone who has rushed an Assault 'Mech into the field of fire of two SRM carriers (that's a total of a hundred and twenty SRM tubes, kids!) and got all his frontal armor sandblasted in a single turn of firing, I can attest that you ignore vehicles at your own damn risk.

In my defense, it was a calculated risk and my Assault did destroy both SRM carriers in the same shooting phase. It must have looked really cool in-universe, a Highlander being barraged by a whole Macross worth of missiles, flinching and shuddering with the ceaseless impacts, yet still managing to blow up both attackers through the cloud of flames, smoke and shrapnel.

I just hope they cut the bit out of the holovid where my pilot failed the piloting skill roll against massive damage and faceplanted immediately afterwards.

That was 120 tons of vehicles, for the price of most of one of my 'Mechs's armor. You win some, you lose some.
I had to look up the SRM Carrier just to double check your numbers and while they are quite right...
Manufactured by almost every major military supplier, the modern SRM Carrier is derived from those developed in the Age of War by Quik Products Inc, the future Quikscell Company. In many cases derived a little too closely; during the Succession Wars era many manufacturers were producing little more than shoddy direct copies that fell below even Quikscell's low quality standards. After the end of the Fourth Succession War Quikscell lodged lawsuits against those manufacturing clones of Quik based carriers, resulting the closure of many smaller manufacturers and larger manufacturers ending production. While those who produced their own designs were not affected, Quikscell's elimination of much of its competitors and its offer to exchange any missile carrier not produced by them for legitimate Quikscell versions and parts made it the number one player of the missile carrier market.
How the hell do you make a product even worse in quality than Quickscell?
  • MRM Launcher A radical Draconis Combine flavored variant of the SRM carrier, Quikscell dropped the SRM launchers for three MRM-30s. A C3 Slave improves coordination, but reduced top speed and a mere eight reloads for each launcher limits its effectiveness.
Yeah, I'm going to just run over to this corner of the map and scream like a baby if I ever see one of those. Oh no, a mere eight reloads per launcher for a trio of MRM-30's. Yeah, because 24 MRM-30 salvoes is weak...
I'm imagining the pilot screaming like a madman during the whole thing, dropping to the ground in front of the smoldering wreckages and giving a weak "I'm good" over comms after a brief pause.
Don't forget Highlanders have a functioning hand, so he could even give a thumb's up while he's on the ground.
 
I'm imagining the pilot screaming like a madman during the whole thing, dropping to the ground in front of the smoldering wreckages and giving a weak "I'm good" over comms after a brief pause.
Don't forget Highlanders have a functioning hand, so he could even give a thumb's up while he's on the ground.
That was more or less how I pictured it, yes. The rest of his lancemates ask the pilot if he's okay through comms and his 'Mech just gives them a wobbly thumbs-up in return. An arm popping up from behind a rise in the ground. IIRC, that MechWarrior took something like 3 damage from stray SRMs to the cockpit plus the fall. I made the consciousness roll so he was still technically awake, but holy shit I know I would need a few seconds to recompose myself after that.

I had to look up the SRM Carrier just to double check your numbers and while they are quite right...

How the hell do you make a product even worse in quality than Quickscell?
It was the Succession Wars, man. We're lucky they managed to retain any industrial capacity at all.

Yeah, I'm going to just run over to this corner of the map and scream like a baby if I ever see one of those. Oh no, a mere eight reloads per launcher for a trio of MRM-30's. Yeah, because 24 MRM-30 salvoes is weak...
Thankfully, MRMs get that +1 penalty to hit so that variant is even more of a high risk, high reward gamble. But if you walk in front of one of those things at close range in anything with less than a +3 movement modifier (at least 7 hexes moved that turn), good fucking luck. With a grand total of 12 armor and 6 internal structure in any given location, you're very likely to pop it like a champagne bottle with any weapon loadout stronger than a stiff breeze, but by God that MRM Carrier is going to do its hardest to take you down with it.
 
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It was the Succession Wars, man. We're lucky they managed to retain any industrial capacity at all.
Yeah, but worse than Quickscell is still quite the feat considering that its 50/50 chances the vehicle will arrive in working order and not with "Some Assembly Required". That is of course considering it even comes with all necessary parts and they didn't just weld the drivetrain in place because they felt like skipping on the suspension. We're talking "Worse than 1941 Red Army" levels of production quality from Quickscell.
 
Yeah, but worse than Quickscell is still quite the feat considering that its 50/50 chances the vehicle will arrive in working order and not with "Some Assembly Required". That is of course considering it even comes with all necessary parts and they didn't just weld the drivetrain in place because they felt like skipping on the suspension. We're talking "Worse than 1941 Red Army" levels of production quality from Quickscell.
Remember that Quickscell might be a meme, but they're also a very large Inner Sphere-spanning corporation. And, despite their QA being shit, their designs are usually solid, simple, cheap and they work if you have the parts on hand. That's the most important thing: no matter how cheap, they wouldn't have survived for over six hundred years if their designs didn't work.

Now imagine just how many smaller and lesser-known companies are out there without any kind of brand to try to uphold, selling products to cash-strapped planetary governments, Periphery powers and small mercenary units. To use a gun analogy, Quickscell might be Hi-Point but at least their shit is functional. These other companies are the really shady backyard/Chinese operations selling guns that are likely to blow up on you 300 rounds in.
 
Remember that Quickscell might be a meme, but they're also a very large Inner Sphere-spanning corporation. And, despite their QA being shit, their designs are usually solid, simple, cheap and they work if you have the parts on hand. That's the most important thing: no matter how cheap, they wouldn't have survived for over six hundred years if their designs didn't work.

Now imagine just how many smaller and lesser-known companies are out there without any kind of brand to try to uphold, selling products to cash-strapped planetary governments, Periphery powers and small mercenary units. To use a gun analogy, Quickscell might be Hi-Point but at least their shit is functional. These other companies are the really shady backyard/Chinese operations selling guns that are likely to blow up on you 300 rounds in.
I know, I know, they're a meme, but a funny one, and in-universe its enough of one the AFFS won't accept anything from them that hasn't been checked, repaired, and the parts and labor billed to Quickscell. And yeah, nobody's talking shit about the Yeet Cannon of BT, the Hetzer.
 
Don't forget Highlanders have a functioning hand, so he could even give a thumb's up while he's on the ground.
Kinda like this:

Yeah, but worse than Quickscell is still quite the feat considering that its 50/50 chances the vehicle will arrive in working order and not with "Some Assembly Required". That is of course considering it even comes with all necessary parts and they didn't just weld the drivetrain in place because they felt like skipping on the suspension. We're talking "Worse than 1941 Red Army" levels of production quality from Quickscell.
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Now imagine just how many smaller and lesser-known companies are out there without any kind of brand to try to uphold, selling products to cash-strapped planetary governments, Periphery powers and small mercenary units. To use a gun analogy, Quickscell might be Hi-Point but at least their shit is functional. These other companies are the really shady backyard/Chinese operations selling guns that are likely to blow up on you 300 rounds in.
I mean, there's always Kyber Pass mystery guns to use as an analogue.
The market for any kind of military goods during the Late Succession Wars must have been flooded with Medium Lasers made by "DefianceHesperusDefianceHesperusDefianceHesperus", covered in random SLDF proofmarks and three-digit serial numbers.
The Periphery might be flooded with that crap just in general.

Even when it needs extensive maintenance and you need to overhaul it pretty much out of the box after buying it... still better than not having anything.
Though Ferengi Rule of Aquisition 294 always applies: A bargain usually isn't.

And yeah, nobody's talking shit about the Yeet Cannon of BT, the Hetzer.
The Hetzer is kind of like the CV-version of the UrbanMech.
You just gotta love that angular little rascal and his very angry gun.
 
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The market for any kind of military goods during the Late Succession Wars must have been flooded with Medium Lasers made by "DefianceHesperusDefianceHesperusDefianceHesperus", covered in random SLDF proofmarks and three-digit serial numbers.
You know, that's something that always confuses me. Just what time period is that? The early 31st Century up until the Helm Memory Core? From my limited understanding by the time the 3010's roll around things have mostly stabilized to the point where the worst of the demand has been sated and while things are held together with spit and bailing wire for the most part still there's enough of them to the point militaries are able to start expanding instead of just keeping shit together with bubble gum. No doubt all of the duct tape factories were LosTech given its limitless ability to secure things, so what few reserves were left were saved for only the most important SL-era items.

I mean, you've got the Merlin in 3010, Hatchetman in 3023, and a whole slew of CVs coming off the lines such as the Patton and Rommel, Brutus, Pike, and Hi-Scout all before the Helm Memory Core is found and distributed, and NAIS in 3015 was the harbinger of things to come, and frankly still is since its the most accomplished research university in the whole IS. Heck, the Fourth Succession War in 3028 was the re-introduction of mass warfare into the IS and the end of the lone MechWarrior.
You just gotta love that angular little rascal and his very angry gun.
Yeah, its the trashcan looking little rascal, but same principle.
 
You know, that's something that always confuses me. Just what time period is that? The early 31st Century up until the Helm Memory Core? From my limited understanding by the time the 3010's roll around things have mostly stabilized to the point where the worst of the demand has been sated and while things are held together with spit and bailing wire for the most part still there's enough of them to the point militaries are able to start expanding instead of just keeping shit together with bubble gum. No doubt all of the duct tape factories were LosTech given its limitless ability to secure things, so what few reserves were left were saved for only the most important SL-era items.

I mean, you've got the Merlin in 3010, Hatchetman in 3023, and a whole slew of CVs coming off the lines such as the Patton and Rommel, Brutus, Pike, and Hi-Scout all before the Helm Memory Core is found and distributed, and NAIS in 3015 was the harbinger of things to come, and frankly still is since its the most accomplished research university in the whole IS. Heck, the Fourth Succession War in 3028 was the re-introduction of mass warfare into the IS and the end of the lone MechWarrior.
To paraphrase William Gibson:
The future is here, it's just not very evenly distributed.

Yeah, its the trashcan looking little rascal, but same principle.
If the UrbanMech is the angry trashcan, I guess that makes the Hetzer the "angry doorwedge".
 
I mean, there's always Kyber Pass mystery guns to use as an analogue.
The market for any kind of military goods during the Late Succession Wars must have been flooded with Medium Lasers made by "DefianceHesperusDefianceHesperusDefianceHesperus", covered in random SLDF proofmarks and three-digit serial numbers.
The Periphery might be flooded with that crap just in general.

Even when it needs extensive maintenance and you need to overhaul it pretty much out of the box after buying it... still better than not having anything.
Though Ferengi Rule of Aquisition 294 always applies: A bargain usually isn't.
I thought about using Khyber Pass as an analogy, but while guns are fairly easy to make by hand, high-tech free-electron lasers and multi-ton autoloading 120mm cannons aren't really something you bang out in a backyard workshop. So you do need a considerable industrial footprint to even begin selling components or whole vehicles.

I suppose the best analogy would actually be buying shit on Wish.com. You place an order for ten suspiciously cheap Defiance B3M Medium Lasers and eventually a crate with between nine and eleven Deviance BƐM arrives at your depot. The polarity on the contacts is reversed, the cooling fins are gummed together with silicone, the capacitors arrived pre-bulged, the focusing lenses are misaligned, and activating the calibration routine fires the laser (poor Jenkins almost got vaporized when the team found that out), but with a bit of elbow grease, spare parts and copious amounts of cursing you can tweak these lumps of circuits into serviceable Medium Lasers.

You know, that's something that always confuses me. Just what time period is that? The early 31st Century up until the Helm Memory Core? From my limited understanding by the time the 3010's roll around things have mostly stabilized to the point where the worst of the demand has been sated and while things are held together with spit and bailing wire for the most part still there's enough of them to the point militaries are able to start expanding instead of just keeping shit together with bubble gum. No doubt all of the duct tape factories were LosTech given its limitless ability to secure things, so what few reserves were left were saved for only the most important SL-era items.

I mean, you've got the Merlin in 3010, Hatchetman in 3023, and a whole slew of CVs coming off the lines such as the Patton and Rommel, Brutus, Pike, and Hi-Scout all before the Helm Memory Core is found and distributed, and NAIS in 3015 was the harbinger of things to come, and frankly still is since its the most accomplished research university in the whole IS. Heck, the Fourth Succession War in 3028 was the re-introduction of mass warfare into the IS and the end of the lone MechWarrior.
Well, BattleMechs and Fusion Engines were stated as being rare and difficult to manufacture because their factories were deliberately targeted for capture/destruction through the Succession Wars, but apparently conventional vehicles were still in widespread use. After all, a tank is a much simpler machine to build than a BattleMech, internal combustion engines are a dime a dozen, and as the Soviets were so eager to demonstrate in WWII you can convert heavy vehicle factories into tank factories with a lot less effort than building a whole new factory from the ground up. Even more so if you build said farm equipment factory with quick conversion in mind.

The standard 3025-era weapons were also still very common: the three grades of laser, the PPC, the four sizes of autocannon, the three sizes of SRM launcher and the four sizes of LRM launcher; they are all very rugged, very well-refined pieces of technology. The processes required to manufacture these weapons and their ammo (where applicable) are widely known and, at this point, likely in the Inner Sphere's equivalent of Public Domain. So anyone with the capital and the resources to build a laser factory or a LRM factory could do so, and likely get a few lucrative contracts with planetary or regional governments.
 
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I thought about using Khyber Pass as an analogy, but while guns are fairly easy to make by hand, high-tech free-electron lasers and multi-ton autoloading 120mm cannons aren't really something you bang out in a backyard workshop. So you do need a considerable industrial footprint to even begin selling components or whole vehicles.
I guess the BT version of the Khyber Pass of the Future would not be old Pakistanis in caves using handfiles and chisels to create a cargo-cult version of a 1911 but rather small companies with access to lathes, ancient mills, some sort of microchip/circuitry manifacturing capability and maybe a 3D Printer that can print small metal parts, pretty much recreating components without really understanding what half of them do (much like the solid tangent sights with random numbers all over them you'll find on any number of poorly copied handguns from the Khyber Pass or the Warlord Era in china).

It would still be a far cry from what humanity was capable of during its heyday of the Star League, but at least it would be capable of churning out something that vaguely resembles tech from a much more advanced era that works at least half the time.

I suppose the best analogy would actually be buying shit on Wish.com. You place an order for ten suspiciously cheap Defiance B3M Medium Lasers and eventually a crate with between nine and eleven Deviance BƐM arrives at your depot. The polarity on the contacts is reversed, the cooling fins are gummed together with silicone, the capacitors arrived pre-bulged, the focusing lenses are misaligned, and activating the calibration routine fires the laser (poor Jenkins almost got vaporized when the team found that out), but with a bit of elbow grease, spare parts and copious amounts of cursing you can tweak that lump of circuits into a serviceable Medium Laser.
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I suppose the best analogy would actually be buying shit on Wish.com. You place an order for ten suspiciously cheap Defiance B3M Medium Lasers and eventually a crate with between nine and eleven Deviance BƐM arrives at your depot. The polarity on the contacts is reversed, the cooling fins are gummed together with silicone, the capacitors arrived pre-bulged, the focusing lenses are misaligned, and activating the calibration routine fires the laser (poor Jenkins almost got vaporized when the team found that out), but with a bit of elbow grease, spare parts and copious amounts of cursing you can tweak these lumps of circuits into serviceable Medium Lasers.
Or buying 30 tons of double heat sinks but finding out they only work at half the efficiency.
 
Or buying 30 tons of double heat sinks but finding out they only work at half the efficiency.
Kinda like getting the old corrosive-coolant double heat sink units instead of the production-grade ones you ordered, eh?

Suddenly reminded of the XTRO: Boondoggles and XTRO: Caveat Emptor supplements. Because for every highly effective design, there are going to be some real duds.

Although I'll give credit to the writers, some of these designs are plausible even if they're bad. Like the Gaussbuster MilitiaMech (a refitted Industrial Mech with a Heavy Gauss Rifle, because they didn't have a working BattleMech that could mount the rifle). Or the VLK-QD5 Valkyrie (which, for some reason, incorporated both a Clan ATM-3 and an Inner Sphere MML-7. To quote one of my group's younger players, 'I have questions.'). And of course the OmniMarauder, which is what happens when the design team thinks money is no object and are probably friends with a Sea Fox merchant who REALLY wants to sell them guns.
 
lol wtf. "Blue Winds"?
More like Brown Skidmarks amirite?
EDIT: LOL at the line "through 'her' ability to remain untouched..." Yeah we get it, you're an unfuckable, autogynephilic, fetal alcohol syndrome troon, now go crank one out to the hot fantasy of you an Kamea Arano in a 'totes translesbian committed relationship'. What a fucking faggot.
 

Oh, and the 'unique surprise'? I'm guessing it's the ability to take a piss while standing up.
This is one of the 'devs' of the BTA3062 mod.
Well, shit. I guess we are back to TrannyTech.

Also, you've just got to love the self-insert fanfiction there. Falling in love with the princess, eh? What's next, a secret tryst?
 
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