Diseased #Comicsgate - The Culture Wars Hit The Funny Books!

Absurdity said:
Am I so off base thinking Comicsgate is done? Snapshot right now: EVS & (pro)friends rehashes and Zack in ashes. Most of the rest are indy crowdfunders that could easily have happened before World War Waid. We're back to people who can make comics about 100+ times slower and about 10+ times more expensive than the old industry average... And those are the same industry professionals that left/pushed out of said industry. On the plus side, all the drama that used to go on behind closed doors now gets repurposed for views which doubles as advertising and revenue.

I think this may prove that one generally cannot be a critical reviewer and a comic book creator at the same time. Everything that comes out of Ethan is always going to be oriented toward promoting his brand as a comic book creator. If that dovetails with a zeitgeist that can be exploited, great. Zack's niche was as a pop culture critic who used comic books as a humorous way to make his point about society in general. Zack actually had greater potential to be a bigger voice than Ethan in this way though Ethan for his part came closest to it with his Phantom Menace brand, but in the end it was just there to push product. That was the essential difference between the two.

Richard was the one who had more to say or so it seemed, but even in the early days there was a lot of talk about building his "brand" and that was okay and kind of funny coming from him. Maybe the signs were there the whole time. Somewhere between proving a point because the truth mattered to becoming a spinmaster in service of a quick buck on IG, something died. I've never seen an Army guy turn into a wannabe frogman so quickly. It's really a shame to seem him like this.

Ethan Van Sciver's integrity and honesty begins and ends with the comic books he makes. There's not a principle he won't go back on if it isn't at the service of selling his books and his brand. Richard C. Meyer had actual integrity, at least he seemed to at first. For a brief moment in time he was winning the Waid War and was still putting out funny videos and had a very successful comic book as a feather in his cap. YBZ was the real core of what the "movement" really represented back then and only he could have really killed it.

RIP.
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The problem with -gaters is that they will either pivot to another -gate when their original one dries out, or they become obsolete.
YBZ never pivoted (while EVS, JSG, YF, TUG etc did successfully)
 
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Rupin said:
YBZ is still stuck in 2017
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A nameless trool said:
The problem with -gaters is that they will either pivot to another -gate when their original one dries out, or they become obsolete.
YBZ never pivoted (while EVS, JSG, YF, TUG etc did successfully)
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Rupin said:
YBZ is still stuck in 2017
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2017 Zach would call 2021 Richard Meyers an entitled little shit. He'd tell him to stop whining and serve customers burgers or whatever metaphor he used to use.

"You don't want to make the customer what they want? The customer is always right!" That's 2017. 2021 is 499. :lit:

Absurdity said:
And now even the fate of this very thread hangs in the balance. Everytime I see Ethan, Nasser, or JDA posting here I'm reminded that the Truman Show was right all along:


Notice the red rooster?
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Ethan brings the goods and JDA/Nassar have gotten better. The real problem are the CG simps that float in here and the humorless people alogs.
 
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Don't think I forgot about you @Mecha . Are you part of the new #WASCAMPAIGN with vikki and dean?
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5t3n0g0ph3r said:
YBZ, post-lawsuit, is a shell of what he was in 2017 and his recent actions reflect it.
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If he can put his nose to the grindstone and bang out at least two of these projects in the next few months he's on his way to redemption. He'll still have to stop trying to court favor with Joe Glass and the rest of those faggots, but the world will look a lot better when he gets a few of these burdens off of him.

It amazes me he can't step back and see that he's violating a lot of his tenets from early on.
 
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Starscreams Cape said:
If he can put his nose to the grindstone and bang out at least two of these projects in the next few months he's on his way to redemption. He'll still have to stop trying to court favor with Joe Glass and the rest of those faggots, but the world will look a lot better to him when he gets a few of these burdens off of him.

It amazes me he can't step back and see that he's violating a lot of his tenets from early on.
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He would have to do a lot more than just bang out one or two products on time to repair his reputation. Not only would he have to catch up on his unfulfilled projects, every project he puts out from here on out would have to be on time but, he would have to increase the quality of the work he puts out.
Like he would have to get an all star quality artist to do the interior of his book, hire an actual writer and have Earthworm Jim quality presentation in his next book (after the trash fire that is KnifeHand) in order to begin repairing the goodwill that he trashed with a lot of fans that used to back everyone one of his projects. Then he would have to keep doing that consistently and we all know that Zack is too scatterbrained and cheap to pull off something like that.
 
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Rupin said:
I don’t get it. How are they Warcampaign?
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Not really warcampaign. They are more in the role of doing what TUG used to do for Ethan. Their role in things now seems to be to terrorize anyone who steps out of line with an "investigation" directed their way. And in the course of the investigations, their special friend @FROG will step in to offer his take on the situation and tell the farm animals what they are supposed to be thinking. Their role is also to get their hands dirty in ways that Ethan would prefer not to. Vikki and Dean are openly acting as Ethan's little helpers now. There is no reason for anyone to pretend otherwise. And really. So what?

There is nothing good or bad about it. This is just how comicsgate works. Its all about a bunch of people scrambling and fighting against each other for spots higher up in the grift. And being a close friend of Ethan is as high up in the grift as anyone can get. ALL of these people would do the same thing if they got the chance. Especially Testefy for example.

There are no good people in or around CG. They are all bad. Vikki and Dean are doing the same things as Ethan's minions as they did when they were aligned with Preston. They all want to become bigger e-celebrities and sell more e-celebrity merchandise. its the same "choose a side" mentality that has been there since 2017. It doesn't matter what side you choose, it only matters that you choose one side or the other.

If Ethan, Warcampaign or TUG disappear, something else will always rise up to replace them and do the same thing. Nothing will ever change. And one of the few good things that can be said about @FROG is that whatever would rise up to replace him would probably be far worse. The people in comicsgate inevitably only go after and harm only each other.

The problem isn't any of the individuals, the problem is the whole stupid and toxic culture around comics. It always breeds alpha-nerds like Ethan and armies of people in competition to be their simps.

Its just the cycle of life. Vikki and Dean have become FROG's new minions. Testefy is now "anti-CG' on the outside looking in. If they exchanged roles within CG in six months, it would not be surprising in the least.
If Dean and Vikki are suddenly aligned with Mecha again, it would not be surprising.
If Vikki weaponizes her now considerable following of idiots, that would also not be surprising in the least.


None of this is about comics. Its about e-celebrity and pushing merchandise for the simps to buy to show their loyalty to e-celebrity.
And its boring.....
 
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Strix454 said:
Not really warcampaign. They are more in the role of doing what TUG used to do for Ethan. Their role in things now seems to be to terrorize anyone who steps out of line with an "investigation" directed their way. And in the course of the investigations, their special friend @FROG will step in to offer his take on the situation and tell the farm animals what they are supposed to be thinking. Their role is also to get their hands dirty in ways that Ethan would prefer not to. Vikki and Dean are openly acting as Ethan's little helpers now. There is no reason for anyone to pretend otherwise. And really. So what?

There is nothing good or bad about it. This is just how comicsgate works. Its all about a bunch of people scrambling and fighting against each other for spots higher up in the grift. And being a close friend of Ethan is as high up in the grift as anyone can get. ALL of these people would do the same thing if they got the chance. Especially Testefy for example.

There are no good people in or around CG. They are all bad. Vikki and Dean are doing the same things as Ethan's minions as they did when they were aligned with Preston. They all want to become bigger e-celebrities and sell more e-celebrity merchandise. its the same "choose a side" mentality that has been there since 2017. It doesn't matter what side you choose, it only matters that you choose one side or the other.

If Ethan, Warcampaign or TUG disappear, something else will always rise up to replace them and do the same thing. Nothing will ever change. And one of the few good things that can be said about @FROG is that whatever would rise up to replace him would probably be far worse. The people in comicsgate inevitably only go after and harm only each other.

The problem isn't any of the individuals, the problem is the whole stupid and toxic culture around comics. It always breeds alpha-nerds like Ethan and armies of people in competition to be their simps.

Its just the cycle of life. Vikki and Dean have become FROG's new minions. Testefy is now "anti-CG' on the outside looking in. If they exchanged roles within CG in six months, it would not be surprising in the least.
If Dean and Vikki are suddenly aligned with Mecha again, it would not be surprising.
If Vikki weaponizes her now considerable following of idiots, that would also not be surprising in the least.
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I'm curious about the nature of VikkiVerse and DA Talks relationship with Frog too, but there's several obvious flaws in your theory.

Firstly neither Vikki nor DA Talks are monetized and probably never will be. It's a long march to 1000 subs for many of these obscure Comicsgate channels, the majority of which will never reach it. If grifting was their end game then they are doing horribly without ad revenue, super chats and their own comics to shill. It would be far more lucrative to rebrand into something else instead of covering niche drama, about a niche movement, within a dying industry.

Secondly to my knowledge Frog's appearances have been sparse and usually only relate to a topic involving him, the Comicsgate trademark stream comes to mind. Since they've styled themselves as some type of CG reporting channel, why not bring on the subject of your stream if the topic involves them personally? Since they've started their new joint channel with a measly 150 subs, Frog hasn't appeared once on stream or in the chat.

Thirdly they still produce content that is critical of Comicsgate, most notably reporting on the 7.2 million dollars currently tied up in unfulfilled books, the interview with overdue Shinobi Sasquatch artist Rob Willis and most recently the decision by Zack to launch Knifehand while his other books remain unfulfilled. Hardly content that your typical CG shill channels would put out, other than the Zack take since his fuckups are too large to ignore.

I would simply chalk this warming of relations between them and Frog down to circumstances.
  • Warcampaign is long gone and so is much of the criticism leveled against Frog. It's hard to stay mad at someone for reasons you can hardly remember yourself, especially when the cause of most of those reasons has now been dealt with.
  • The deterioration of relations between them and Preston Poulter and the small handful of fools still stupid enough to remain in his orbit. Perhaps Vikki and DA Talk's hatred of Preston eclipses their distaste of Frog? I don't assume to guess, but given the lawsuit I'm willing to wager it.
  • The lawsuit itself, why spend your time alienating someone who is currently sharing in the same situation you are? Presenting a united front against a common foe is hardly a bad strategy, whether or not it is all just a façade.
I'd say this new relationship between them is more one out of necessity and convenience, rather than some elaborate gay op where Vikki and DA Talks are now the new versions of Pan and Ro. Of course if they start super-chatting Frog with "HAIL CAESAR" and spamming Tim Lim with dildo memes, I'll reconsider my assessment.
 
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Pilule Noire said:
I know what everybody is thinking right now. With all this Zack stuff.

They're thinking, "Where can I buy a Micah Curtis comic!"

The answer is here!
www.indiegogo.com

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Featuring this fabulous crotch-focused cover piece, by the renowned flab-ensconced cuckold who created my avatar, CG's Donal DeLay.

This comic isn't getting the promotion it deserves, do to the crooked nature of @FROG!
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International kiwis, grab these digital $25 hot cakes now! Before they run out!
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And remember, those of you who would dare to mock, laugh, clown on Micah, and call him shit or a bum.

He has a special message just for you, hater!
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this book’s interior art is deviantart level bad! I don’t see this book getting funded.
 
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VIkkiVerse said:
This is Kiwi Farms, you petulant child.

You make a claim, you back it up. That's how shit works here. No "you'll see" dodges, take that weak shit to your D-E-D YouTube show.
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Victoria,

you really need to stop using such language Kundert.

Strix454 said:
Not really warcampaign. They are more in the role of doing what TUG used to do for Ethan. Their role in things now seems to be to terrorize anyone who steps out of line with an "investigation" directed their way. And in the course of the investigations, their special friend @FROG will step in to offer his take on the situation and tell the farm animals what they are supposed to be thinking. Their role is also to get their hands dirty in ways that Ethan would prefer not to. Vikki and Dean are openly acting as Ethan's little helpers now. There is no reason for anyone to pretend otherwise. And really. So what?

There is nothing good or bad about it. This is just how comicsgate works. Its all about a bunch of people scrambling and fighting against each other for spots higher up in the grift. And being a close friend of Ethan is as high up in the grift as anyone can get. ALL of these people would do the same thing if they got the chance. Especially Testefy for example.

There are no good people in or around CG. They are all bad. Vikki and Dean are doing the same things as Ethan's minions as they did when they were aligned with Preston. They all want to become bigger e-celebrities and sell more e-celebrity merchandise. its the same "choose a side" mentality that has been there since 2017. It doesn't matter what side you choose, it only matters that you choose one side or the other.

If Ethan, Warcampaign or TUG disappear, something else will always rise up to replace them and do the same thing. Nothing will ever change. And one of the few good things that can be said about @FROG is that whatever would rise up to replace him would probably be far worse. The people in comicsgate inevitably only go after and harm only each other.

The problem isn't any of the individuals, the problem is the whole stupid and toxic culture around comics. It always breeds alpha-nerds like Ethan and armies of people in competition to be their simps.

Its just the cycle of life. Vikki and Dean have become FROG's new minions. Testefy is now "anti-CG' on the outside looking in. If they exchanged roles within CG in six months, it would not be surprising in the least.
If Dean and Vikki are suddenly aligned with Mecha again, it would not be surprising.
If Vikki weaponizes her now considerable following of idiots, that would also not be surprising in the least.


None of this is about comics. Its about e-celebrity and pushing merchandise for the simps to buy to show their loyalty to e-celebrity.
And its boring.....
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They are aligned with Preston Poulter. That is what is hilarious right now.
 
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