Debate user Doom and Gloom about the blackpill

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Shiversblood said:
oh no I should have taken the red pill instead of the black pill
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What's the "red pill" in this context - being a maytag for a crowd of randy, sex-starved Injuns? I can imagine why that would be slightly easier to bear (smaller dicks), but they probably make up for it in other ways.
 
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The black pill is when tons of homosexual black men actually tackle you to the ground from behind and just start slamming their penis into your anus and you scream oh no I should have taken the red pill instead of the black pill and then a Muslim man runs into the room and he screams I was just trying to make a better life for myself in the USA but I had no idea so many homosexual black men lived in the USA and then the Muslim man from Pakistan is actually tackled to the ground by homosexual black men he is screaming
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He says what we're all thinking!
 
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I realize I'm wasting my time here, but I'm procrastinating on something else, so...

Doom and Gloom, if your goal is to obtain a loyal woman who will raise your children, then you have to offer women more than just looks. I see you rolling you're eyes about how wrong I am, but hear me out first. Sane, stable, and loyal women exist. They want sane, stable, and loyal men. It sounds like cheating won't be an issue with you, and it also sounds like you have a degree and a decent job (?). However, no offense, but you don't come across as emotionally sane in the least. Smart, quality women will spot your emotional instability, insecurity, and negativity a mile away. It won't matter how good looking, rich, or loyal you are; a smart woman that wants to marry a man and build a family with him, doesn't want to settle down with someone who offers nothing more than looks, a paycheck, and a promise to not cheat on them.

You're right that people who say "just have confidence!" have it wrong, however, it's not for the reasons you think. Yes, just being confident won't be enough to land you a relationship and get laid. You also need to have skills, outside hobbies and interests, good emotional regulation skills, and at least semi decent people reading skills. You have to think of others and not be so emotionally selfish and stuck in your head. This isn't easy to fix, especially when you've grown up as an awkward guy with self esteem issues, but it's still something that you can fix and improve if you put in the work.

Let me give you a real life example of this. My ex boss was below average looking, short, and not rich. Yet he had a lot of options when it came to dating, and currently has a beautiful wife with a kid on the way. He has a lot of hobbies, so he had lots to talk about and share, and also lots more opportunities to meet women who shared like minded interests. He has a lot of skills women find appealing, like being able to fix things around the house, doing minor repairs on vehicles, etc.

On top of all of that, he was a good listener and did not view the world in such a negative way. When you see the world as nothing but shit, it frames everything you do or say in a negative cloud that no one, especially women, find appealing. I'm sure my ex boss had issues and insecurities, but he was emotionally mature enough to know that people don't want to hear about it. He was delightful to be around and someone you knew you could depend on. Women love that shit. Lots of good looking ladies are willing to overlook a man's average and even ugly looks as long as has other high qualities about him.

I agree with you that being good looking comes with benefits, and that being ugly makes life harder. However, you don't have to just sit there and accept you life as-is. You CAN improve yourself and the quality of who you can bag and marry WILL go up if you are actually willing to put the work in. If you aren't willing to put in that work, then of course the quality of potential marriage candidates will stay low and you'll die a resentful and bitter old man.

Women want to know that long term, you are good and stable partner. What are you offering that signals this? A degree and a job is a good start, but lots of men have that. What else do YOU bring to the table? What skills do you know? What hobbies and interests do you partake in? What are you passionate about? When you imagine you and your would-be wife growing old together, what does that even look like to you? I'm genuinely asking here.
 
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Shiversblood said:
The black pill is when tons of homosexual black men actually tackle you to the ground from behind and just start slamming their penis into your anus and you scream oh no I should have taken the red pill instead of the black pill and then a Muslim man runs into the room and he screams I was just trying to make a better life for myself in the USA but I had no idea so many homosexual black men lived in the USA and then the Muslim man from Pakistan is actually tackled to the ground by homosexual black men he is screaming
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Always take the red pill
 
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T0oCoolFool said:
I realize I'm wasting my time here, but I'm procrastinating on something else, so...

Doom and Gloom, if your goal is to obtain a loyal woman who will raise your children, then you have to offer women more than just looks. I see you rolling you're eyes about how wrong I am, but hear me out first. Sane, stable, and loyal women exist. They want sane, stable, and loyal men. It sounds like cheating won't be an issue with you, and it also sounds like you have a degree and a decent job (?). However, no offense, but you don't come across as emotionally sane in the least. Smart, quality women will spot your emotional instability, insecurity, and negativity a mile away. It won't matter how good looking, rich, or loyal you are; a smart woman that wants to marry a man and build a family with him, doesn't want to settle down with someone who offers nothing more than looks, a paycheck, and a promise to not cheat on them.

You're right that people who say "just have confidence!" have it wrong, however, it's not for the reasons you think. Yes, just being confident won't be enough to land you a relationship and get laid. You also need to have skills, outside hobbies and interests, good emotional regulation skills, and at least semi decent people reading skills. You have to think of others and not be so emotionally selfish and stuck in your head. This isn't easy to fix, especially when you've grown up as an awkward guy with self esteem issues, but it's still something that you can fix and improve if you put in the work.

Let me give you a real life example of this. My ex boss was below average looking, short, and not rich. Yet he had a lot of options when it came to dating, and currently has a beautiful wife with a kid on the way. He has a lot of hobbies, so he had lots to talk about and share, and also lots more opportunities to meet women who shared like minded interests. He has a lot of skills women find appealing, like being able to fix things around the house, doing minor repairs on vehicles, etc.

On top of all of that, he was a good listener and did not view the world in such a negative way. When you see the world as nothing but shit, it frames everything you do or say in a negative cloud that no one, especially women, find appealing. I'm sure my ex boss had issues and insecurities, but he was emotionally mature enough to know that people don't want to hear about it. He was delightful to be around and someone you knew you could depend on. Women love that shit. Lots of good looking ladies are willing to overlook a man's average and even ugly looks as long as has other high qualities about him.

I agree with you that being good looking comes with benefits, and that being ugly makes life harder. However, you don't have to just sit there and accept you life as-is. You CAN improve yourself and the quality of who you can bag and marry WILL go up if you are actually willing to put the work in. If you aren't willing to put in that work, then of course the quality of potential marriage candidates will stay low and you'll die a resentful and bitter old man.

Women want to know that long term, you are good and stable partner. What are you offering that signals this? A degree and a job is a good start, but lots of men have that. What else do YOU bring to the table? What skills do you know? What hobbies and interests do you partake in? What are you passionate about? When you imagine you and your would-be wife growing old together, what does that even look like to you? I'm genuinely asking here.
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I am getting plastic surgery and gymmaxxing instead and then downloading tinder again.
 
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Doom and gloom said:
I am getting plastic surgery and gymmaxxing instead and then downloading tinder again.
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That's a good start, but if you have a shit personality, it still won't be enough to get decent women. Case in point: Over in the Jazz Jenning's thread, you'll note that Jazz's brother, Sanders, is good looking and in shape, and yet he stays single despite trying his best to get a date. You can smell the desperation and clingy-ness from a mile away.

Work on your personality while you level up your health and looks. God speed.
 
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T0oCoolFool said:
That's a good start, but if you have a shit personality, it still won't be enough to get decent women. Case in point: Over in the Jazz Jenning's thread, you'll note that Jazz's brother, Sanders, is good looking and in shape, and yet he stays single despite trying his best to get a date. You can smell the desperation and clingy-ness from a mile away.

Work on your personality while you level up your health and looks. God speed.
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Dude ain't good looking he has prey eyes and a jew nose on top of being ethnic and a beiber cut in 2021
 
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Car Won't Crank said:
Not a point of debate necessarily but seems the red/black pill thinking is starting to gain momentum. The youtubers Fresh and Fit were on Timcast IRL to discuss those topics and whatever. An interesting observation to note.
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Thats the frightening thing. If this stuff comes more mainstream it would just make everyone go to the gym and looksmax and then the standards for women would just rise that much more. All this stuff can be solved if people didn't just do things that feel good instead of just maintaining society like we did in the 50s.
 
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Doom and gloom said:
Thats the frightening thing. If this stuff comes more mainstream it would just make everyone go to the gym and looksmax and then the standards for women would just rise that much more. All this stuff can be solved if people didn't just do things that feel good instead of just maintaining society like we did in the 50s.
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I go to the gym to relieve stress. On one hand, I don't want a bunch of aggro incels invading our comfy workout space.

On the other hand, I know you won't stick around, but will be too ashamed to cancel your subscription, which means maybe we can get new treadmills, or expand the building a bit for a dedicated stretching area. That'd be swell, thanks dickless!
 
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Sped Xing said:
I go to the gym to relieve stress. On one hand, I don't want a bunch of aggro incels invading our comfy workout space.

On the other hand, I know you won't stick around, but will be too ashamed to cancel your subscription, which means maybe we can get new treadmills, or expand the building a bit for a dedicated stretching area. That'd be swell, thanks dickless!
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You sound like a faggot but unironically.
 
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Car Won't Crank said:
Not a point of debate necessarily but seems the red/black pill thinking is starting to gain momentum. The youtubers Fresh and Fit were on Timcast IRL to discuss those topics and whatever. An interesting observation to note.
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I guess it is being resurrected as a vector for making money considering political grifting is practically dead thanks to social media policies.
 
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