Pokémon (Not-So) Griefing Thread - Scarlet and Violet Released with 10 Million Copies in First 3 Days in Buggy States

SnowBall said:
You could recruit monsters in Dragon Quest V but yeah I agree. Also these people need to realize that not everyone knows about SMT or hell DQ5 in the west. It is so dumb seeing people scolding Pokemon fans for not knowing every single game with monster taming elements and the “origins” of the genre that are obscure as fuck unless they live in Japan. Correct me if I am wrong but Digimon and to a lesser extent Persona seem to be the only monster games the general public outside the echo chambers of the internet are aware of.
Also I think I posted this before but Imagine trying to grasp at straws this badly.

Agreed. Pokemon fans are horribly guilty of it too but some of the more stupidly vocal monster taming genre fans take it so personally if you even remotely call a monster game “Pokemon like.” Getting snooty and policing how people should call a monster taming game will just turn potential fans away.
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No wonder these person love to circle jerk so hard when they can reach this hard and long. :story:
 
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Magnemite and Magneton look and sound like a cross between a Van de Graaff generator and a robot.

Magnezone is kind of disturbing though, what with how they fuse into a UFO.
 
CrystalHead said:
I've been replaying Omega Ruby this week and I don't really know if I like Hoenn or not.

I have fond memories of Emerald and I think Hoenn has a great Region Dex and selection of Pokemon but as an region it just kinda feels off to me.

I don't know if it's just me but the pacing feels a little off currently on the road to Fortree city and it feels like the game has flown by, there's really not a whole lot between the first three gyms and even the gap between Wattson and Flannery smells kinda small and than Norman's pretty much instsntly after Flannery unless you wanna explore the dessert. It just kinda feels like the early part of the game doesn't have a whole lot of breathing room between the gyms especially compared to something like Kanto which is the last region I played.

I couldn't but notice that the start rehashes alot from kanto and johto, Petalburg is bargain bin Virdian city and forest, Roxanne is a Female Brock but with a walking nose instead of a cool looking rock snake, Dewford is Cianwood with a tiny ass cave added on, Slateport is Olivine with a contest hall instead of a gym.

And also water routes are typically my least favourite parts of Pokemon games so I kind of agree with IGN on the whole "too much water" sentiment
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That’s because Emerald is a much better game and the remakes take the worst of both worlds from Gen 3 and 6.
 
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Buttigieg2020 said:
That’s because Emerald is a much better game and the remakes take the worst of both worlds from Gen 3 and 6.
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I would have to disagree. One of the best things to come from ORAS was the dexnav and the super training (granted that was also in X and Y). Not to mention Emerald didn't have the QoL that the Gen after it brought, so I'm reluctant to call it the better game personally.
 
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Nauseated Courgi said:
I would have to disagree. One of the best things to come from ORAS was the dexnav and the super training (granted that was also in X and Y). Not to mention Emerald didn't have the QoL that the Gen after it brought, so I'm reluctant to call it the better game personally.
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I'd agree that ORAS are better games than RSE on their own, however I'd say the jump from X/Y to ORAS was nowhere near as impressive as the jump from GSC to RSE. Though of course we're just talking about Emerald, which wasn't that much of an improvement compared to Ruby and Sapphire. It should've just been the 3rd gen game, instead of there being 3, but that problem plagued Pokemon for far too long. When X and Y came out, everyone (including me) expected a Z, but I think I'm glad they went away with the 3rd game.

I wish they would do away with the two games philosophy as well, but for everything they did wrong with SwSh, at least they tried to make the versions distinct with different gym leaders.

Anyway that's just me being autistic, ORAS also gave the evil teams a lot more personality than just "We want land, we want water." Even if pretty much everyone except Maxie is borderline schizophrenic or sociopathic, or both. At least it stands as a reason for them being part of a batshit organization that wants to terraform the world.
 
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CrystalHead said:
I've been replaying Omega Ruby this week and I don't really know if I like Hoenn or not.

I have fond memories of Emerald and I think Hoenn has a great Region Dex and selection of Pokemon but as an region it just kinda feels off to me.

I don't know if it's just me but the pacing feels a little off currently on the road to Fortree city and it feels like the game has flown by, there's really not a whole lot between the first three gyms and even the gap between Wattson and Flannery smells kinda small and than Norman's pretty much instsntly after Flannery unless you wanna explore the dessert. It just kinda feels like the early part of the game doesn't have a whole lot of breathing room between the gyms especially compared to something like Kanto which is the last region I played.

I couldn't but notice that the start rehashes alot from kanto and johto, Petalburg is bargain bin Virdian city and forest, Roxanne is a Female Brock but with a walking nose instead of a cool looking rock snake, Dewford is Cianwood with a tiny ass cave added on, Slateport is Olivine with a contest hall instead of a gym.

And also water routes are typically my least favourite parts of Pokemon games so I kind of agree with IGN on the whole "too much water" sentiment
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Buttigieg2020 said:
That’s because Emerald is a much better game and the remakes take the worst of both worlds from Gen 3 and 6.
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Emerald at least has replayability value. Been doing it with a paid version of GBA emulator and breeding competitive pokemon for the battle frontier. Once you win more than enough times in any one facility (I earned over 5000 battle points), there's a bug that causes the game to have every other facility have the AI throw stronger and broken pokemon at you with the algorithms in their favor.

For example. You get frozen or sleep more often, OHKO moves are more accurate, and a single mistake could mean winning or losing. The pokemon that you battle have their IVs adjusted to always match your team's, and you need a lot of luck and chance to make a straight winning streak.
 
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Tardar the Barbarian said:
Emerald at least has replayability value. Been doing it with a paid version of GBA emulator and breeding competitive pokemon for the battle frontier. Once you win more than enough times in any one facility (I earned over 5000 battle points), there's a bug that causes the game to have every other facility have the AI throw stronger and broken pokemon at you with the algorithms in their favor.

For example. You get frozen or sleep more often, OHKO moves are more accurate, and a single mistake could mean winning or losing. The pokemon that you battle have their IVs adjusted to always match your team's, and you need a lot of luck and chance to make a straight winning streak.
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ORAS also has replay value, too. So the Battle Frontier isn't in it. How does that stop you from replaying the game with different teams, and shit?

Look, I'm not gonna defend GF for taking it out, or whatever, but basing replayability just on the Battle Frontier is kind of dumb.
 
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Tardar the Barbarian said:
Emerald at least has replayability value. Been doing it with a paid version of GBA emulator and breeding competitive pokemon for the battle frontier.
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Speaking as a dude who bred for competitive in Gen 6 (before PKHeX), how is Gen 3 breeding? I bet it's a blast having something to do and gain, looking back at how earlier generational mechanics worked; makes me remember my recent FireRed playthrough, where I lugged around a Pickup Meowth that always seemed to lucky enough to farm Rare Candy.

Might just make that true and final Platinum file for keeps where I do the same, and get that same value I had as a kid (before Action Replay).
 
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CrippleThreat said:
Speaking as a dude who bred for competitive in Gen 6 (before PKHeX), how is Gen 3 breeding? I bet it's a blast having something to do and gain, looking back at how earlier generational mechanics worked; makes me remember my recent FireRed playthrough, where I lugged around a Pickup Meowth that always seemed to lucky enough to farm Rare Candy.

Might just make that true and final Platinum file for keeps where I do the same, and get that same value I had as a kid (before Action Replay).
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There's a stat judge at the Battle Frontier that lets you know if your pokemon have perfect IVs.

Depending on what you have, this is what he'll tell you.

"This one, overall, I would describe as being of average ability."0 to 90
"This one, overall, I would describe as having better-than-average ability."91 to 120
"This one, overall, I would say is quite impressive in ability!"121 to 150
"This one, overall, I would say is wonderfully outstanding in ability!"151 to 186

And, for the stats.

"That stat is relatively good. ...Hmm... That's how I call it."0 to 15
"That stat is quite impressive. ...Hmm... That's how I call it."16 to 25
"That stat is outstanding! ...Hmm... That's how I call it."26 to 30
"It's flawless! A thing of perfection! ...Hmm... That's how I call it."31

Other than that, it's the usual Ditto+Everstone method. The fact of the matter is, I was lucky enough to catch some with the right natures and perfect IVs. It helps that I can accelerate the emulator and load save states to start over whenever I fail in catching just one Ditto with the right stats and nature. For that, I use a Ralts with Synchronize.

I also use cheats admittedly, but not too much because it'll corrupt the save file or crash the emulator.

This is the generation where the physical/special split was still in its infancy.

Ex. Normal type attacks are always Physical barring phasers.

As such, I always breed Adamant for Physical attackers, Modest or Timid for Specials, and sponges like my Blissey is Bold to be able to tank since it has shit Def. Dedicated EV training to where you want to invest points is where it gets tricky. I mostly glean builds from Smogon, and so far, a lot of them are pretty solid.

I'm still busy catching more Ditto to cover more bases, but other than that, this is what I mostly got.

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I also use cheats to catch Lv 2-3 Legendaries and Mythicals to enter more powerful stuff in my matches at the Battle Frontier.

You can probably get the rest, so how does that compare to you?
 
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Tardar the Barbarian said:
haYou can probably get the rest, so how does that compare to you?
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For Platinum and DS titles in particular, emulators are not to speed (my specs suck, so DeSuMe literally shits itself running), so I prefer cart (which I have to make a new file for). As for cheats, still have the same old AR DSI from my childhood that I like to use fro time to time.

The Sinnoh Battle Frontier is just the last thing I've never fully done besides that one lucky against Dahlia when I was a kid.
 
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CrippleThreat said:
For Platinum and DS titles in particular, emulators are not to speed (my specs suck, so DeSuMe literally shits itself running), so I prefer cart (which I have to make a new file for). As for cheats, still have the same old AR DSI from my childhood that I like to use fro time to time.

The Sinnoh Battle Frontier is just the last thing I've never fully done besides that one lucky against Dahlia when I was a kid.
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I'm currently playing Heartgold in a paid version of DraStic. It crashes from time to time whenever I reopen the game, but I'm unsure if even the paid version from the play store is the same, or if it's a bug from being a pirated apk file. Maybe a corrupted save file, but it still saves well, surprisingly.

I already cleared Morty as of this post, but goddamn, his Gengar kept one shotting my team, so I had to grind like crazy for hours and waste a few TMs.

I also kept bumping into Entei and Raikou, so I had to keep resetting the game from time so they won't disappear after they flee. Then again, there's a trick I found that lets me transfer my pokemon from my emerald game to any Gen IV game using DraStic (yes, any Gen IV game), but I have to win the League to do that.
 
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