Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

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I'm not 100% sure about every detail. But just looking at the Samandtolki discord (which is pretty dead) there seems to be a few people who have turned on IceWarm and are making fun of him. IceWarm (or IceWarm1980) is the guy who runs the boogietruth twitter account.

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He is supposedly this 41 year old youtuber.

The trolls are making fun of his uber autism, aswell as genuinely strange and disturbing behavior. Like asking for the for someone to check birth records to track down a 9 year old kid (the son of the sugarbaby boogie was "dating" lol)

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Why a 41 year old man would want to find a 9 year old kid is beyond me. Pretty creepy.

Personally I just remember IceWarm as the guy that would make 5-10 posts a day on Samandtolki and not much else.

People made fun of him on SamAndTolki too, even people who despised Boogie thought he was doing too much.

 

[Menangiz]

People made fun of him on SamAndTolki too, even people who despised Boogie thought he was doing too much.

He ruined the sub, the guy posted every minute and insignificant thing boogie ever did on S&T instead of keeping it to the obvious bad things.

 

[NoodleToodle]

People made fun of him on SamAndTolki too, even people who despised Boogie thought he was doing too much.

Yeah.

Sometimes he was useful because he was the only one dedicated enough to sit through two hours of Boogie's boring livestreams and clip them.

But yeah, it got annoying when the entire subreddit was filled with every little thing about Boogie. Like honestly, he's a fat manipulative cunt, but you're calling him out over never seeing a T-Rex Skeleton?

Suicide baiting kids? Emotionally abusing 20 year old girls? Nah, this is real shit.

 

[Compositesludge]

Yeah.

Sometimes he was useful because he was the only one dedicated enough to sit through two hours of Boogie's boring livestreams and clip them.

But yeah, it got annoying when the entire subreddit was filled with every little thing about Boogie. Like honestly, he's a fat manipulative cunt, but you're calling him out over never seeing a T-Rex Skeleton?

Suicide baiting kids? Emotionally abusing 20 year old girls? Nah, this is real shit.

It's one of the reasons why I like how we call out stupid stuff on Kiwifarms. There's a difference between disliking Boogie because he's shamelessly manipulative and determined to hurt those who care about him, and disliking Boogie because his uncultured swine self probably hasn't ever been to Boston in the Fall. One of them's a moral failing, the other's pretty dumb.

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

Boogie's turning himself into an Ace Attorney character.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

Icewarm's a character for sure, he casts a wide net on Boogie and sometimes really misses the mark and goes after really mundane stuff or gets it wrong. I know he used to monitor Boogie's PSN trophies closely (to call him out as a fake 'gamer') and I don't think he ever found anything that wasn't a massive reach. He's probably the only critic who bothers to watch Boogie's cringey TikToks that don't get reposted to twitter. I think he reaches a lot but sometimes finds stuff that doesn't get seen otherwise.

SamandTolki was not originally a Boogie sub and he was by far the largest poster of Boogie content, so some people rightfully didn't take it too kindly when he'd drop a page of Boogie topic updates and bury any speedrunning drama.
He's mostly harmless in his new home on twitter and every once in a while the Boogietruth account catches good stuff. He goes through Boogie's streams pretty thoroughly anyway.

 

[Frozen Fishsticks]

Beware that, when fighting lolcows, you yourself do not become a lolcow... for when you gaze long into the autism. The autism gazes also into you.

 

[Din Djarin]

Will Boogie lose weight in prison or will he do all that he can to get food from other prisoners?

 

[killtheYids]

This shit is too good he will post it on his twitter and claims SoMEboDY SeNT mE ThiS ROFL

 

[YaBoi]

Had a feeling that was Icewarm on Twitter and I'm pretty sure I know who he is on here. I've got no problem with the guy as I appreciate that he grabs clips from Boogie's livestreams which otherwise would be lost for good. Yeah he posted some pointless threads in r/samandtolki from time to time but the informative outweighed the pointless for sure.

I do have some further info about this situation which hopefully lead us to the answers.

Yesterday Boogie responded to an account called "Icewarmtruth":

Spoiler: Icewarmtruth

The followers are quite interesting. Look who followed first despite insisting to this account "not to bother":

The @ItsABirdItsAPla account seems to really hate Icewarm as he's the only one responding and liking any tweets posted by the account.

Anyway, with Boogie recently ramping up the alt activity again, it wouldn't surprise me if he was in some way responsible for this account's creation. The length of times between these tweets is worth noting:

Icewarmtruth's first ever tweet was only 3 minutes before Boogie's next tweet:

Boogie probably hates Icewarm as much as he hated Haberdasher. He would know who runs the BoogieTruth account as he used to monitor the SamandTolki Discord (he accidentally logged into the Discord with his own account this one time). Plus there were a few Boogie simps in there.

I also think that this comment from Icewarm could have been a joke, hence the "lol" and laugh react:

Boogie has banged on about how his stalkers allegedly doxxed his ex and threatened her son and this might be the example he's using. Either way, he's never shown these alleged threats despite having the receipts.

I would really like to see the full context of Icewarm's comment about the birth records though as it looks like a joke, I could be wrong. Anyway, my take on this is that it's Boogie's attempt at getting another one of his critics taken down. Very strange that everything has been privated by Boogietruth suddenly.

As irrelevant as he is, he still seems to have some pull behind the scenes. @Hotel in Minsk posted a Cold Ones clip a few days ago where Keemstar said that 50 creators were in a group chat with Boogie trying to convince him not to kill himself and he still got a mention from h3h3 a few weeks back.

He got r/samandtolki shut down and has attempted to slide into Haber and Christopher Tom's DMs in the past (if he hadn't already) and threatened to kill Frank Hassle. He fucking hates people who document his behavior, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's targeting Icewarm. Surprised this didn't happened sooner.

 

[Thomas Highway]

IceWarm is a faggot and needs to get a hobby.

 

[Glad I couldn't help]

Boogie's turning himself into an Ace Attorney character.

Can't wait for the inevitable freak-out animation.

 

[Chainsaw Juggler]

Had a feeling that was Icewarm on Twitter and I'm pretty sure I know who he is on here. I've got no problem with the guy as I appreciate that he grabs clips from Boogie's livestreams which otherwise would be lost for good. Yeah he posted some pointless threads in r/samandtolki from time to time but the informative outweighed the pointless for sure.

I do have some further info about this situation which hopefully lead us to the answers.

Yesterday Boogie responded to an account called "Icewarmtruth":

Spoiler: Icewarmtruth

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The followers are quite interesting. Look who followed first despite insisting to this account "not to bother":

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The @ItsABirdItsAPla account seems to really hate Icewarm as he's the only one responding and liking any tweets posted by the account.

Anyway, with Boogie recently ramping up the alt activity again, it wouldn't surprise me if he was in some way responsible for this account's creation. The length of times between these tweets is worth noting:

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Icewarmtruth's first ever tweet was only 3 minutes before Boogie's next tweet:

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Boogie probably hates Icewarm as much as he hated Haberdasher. He would know who runs the BoogieTruth account as he used to monitor the SamandTolki Discord (he accidentally logged into the Discord with his own account this one time). Plus there were a few Boogie simps in there.

I also think that this comment from Icewarm could have been a joke, hence the "lol" and laugh react:

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Boogie has banged on about how his stalkers allegedly doxxed his ex and threatened her son and this might be the example he's using. Either way, he's never shown these alleged threats despite having the receipts.

I would really like to see the full context of Icewarm's comment about the birth records though as it looks like a joke, I could be wrong. Anyway, my take on this is that it's Boogie's attempt at getting another one of his critics taken down. Very strange that everything has been privated by Boogietruth suddenly.

As irrelevant as he is, he still seems to have some pull behind the scenes. @Hotel in Minsk posted a Cold Ones clip a few days ago where Keemstar said that 50 creators were in a group chat with Boogie trying to convince him not to kill himself and he still got a mention from h3h3 a few weeks back.

He got r/samandtolki shut down and has attempted to slide into Haber and Christopher Tom's DMs in the past (if he hadn't already) and threatened to kill Frank Hassle. He fucking hates people who document his behavior, so it wouldn't surprise me if he's targeting Icewarm. Surprised this didn't happened sooner.

Boogie's either running that account or one of his more extreme fans is. I'd personally guess it's Boogie. Either way, I got a laugh at him pretending to be above going after one of his critics, and then he gets caught first in line on the follow list. God, you can't believe fucking anything Boogie says!

 

[Hotel in Minsk]

It was clear to anyone else lurking Sam and Tolki that IceWarm took making fun of Boogie to the next level. When Haber announced there'd be new mods for the sub he treated his candidacy like a formal job application. Admittedly, that "Boogie has never seen a T-Rex" post is fucking hilarious lmao, what a sperg. I kind of wish I didn't see this because otherwise the BoogieTruth account has given us some real gems and finds a lot of content that would otherwise be overlooked. That account also has a tendency to post irrelevant details that nobody actually cares about though. Forget the context, anyone sifting through birth records of an 8 year old is a fucking weirdo.

I don't have Discord so I'm unsure of what the deal is over there or what the climate of the Sam and Tolki and Boogie servers are like. What I do hear from those of you who've checked it out a bit is that it sounds like sperg central.

Boogie has banged on about how his stalkers allegedly doxxed his ex and threatened her son and this might be the example he's using. Either way, he's never shown these alleged threats despite having the receipts. I would really like to see the full context of Icewarm's comment about the birth records though as it looks like a joke, I could be wrong.

IceWarm is embarrassing but with that said I know nothing about him and quite a lot about Boogie. We know that he'd go to the ends of the Earth to protect his image, maintain control of the meticulous narrative he's attempted to craft, and wishes to put a fatwa on anyone he deems a critic. You'd assume that if what IceWarm is being accused of is true, that Boogie would have aired that out there to the public like he does with everything else as a way to say "Look at just how victimized I am".

It's impossible to say that Boogie is 100% guilty of running that account right now simply because we don't have enough info yet, but that wouldn't be the least bit surprising. First of all, it's classic Boogie to respond with "Don't bother, I'm way above all that" when offered info on critics who he spends all day thinking about. Especially just minutes after that initial Tweet was made. Beyond that, the Tweet sent to Boogie is worded in a really weird way imo. Boogie hasn't even seen the sugar baby in question for like 7+ months. While Boogie's fans are retarded, even then it's difficult to imagine anyone going out of their way to enlist in this kind of anti-anti-boogie crusade at this level. They come across like a completely unhinged lunatic.

Who can forget Gary Trammel? The totally real private investigator who was DM'ing users on Sam and Tolki and trying to threateningly seek out information on guys like Haber and Christopher Tom.

Remember the suspected Boogie alt that was made that later turned out to be using the girlfriend of a known critic as their profile picture? Accounts like NocturnalWalrus got way more attention but I still lean towards that one being operated by Steven. This "Icewarmtruth" account looks identical to that alt account which was made entirely to harass another Boogie critic. They have the same typing characteristics and give off the same unhinged vibe as the other one. I'm not too interested in going much deeper than that, this is weird and too meta for me.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Yeah.

Sometimes he was useful because he was the only one dedicated enough to sit through two hours of Boogie's boring livestreams and clip them.

But yeah, it got annoying when the entire subreddit was filled with every little thing about Boogie. Like honestly, he's a fat manipulative cunt, but you're calling him out over never seeing a T-Rex Skeleton?

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Suicide baiting kids? Emotionally abusing 20 year old girls? Nah, this is real shit.

Okay, I have to ask, how narrow are museum hallways near you if you think Boogie couldn't fit through? Now him getting too exhausted to walk around the place makes sense.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

The one thing Boogies current viewcount to sub ratio proves is 90% of his fanbase just pitied him (I know shocking) but we now know for sure. He has a set of new teeth, people think he is in much better health, he owns a sports car and lives in a nice house. None of that was why people liked Boogie. People subbed to him because he was a 600lbs nerdy dude who made vlogs in his incredibly depressing looking room in some shitty apartment with his fucked teeth. People felt bad for him. It wasn't charm, humor or wit that won them over (although he is decent at telling stories) it was "Look at this sad fat man who is well spoken! I'm gonna watch." That's why no one watches his gaming videos or any of his other content. Now that he is a seemingly much more normal person people don't care. People have pointed out his fence sitting causes his takes on video games to be incredibly bland and boring and his Francis videos were all fake and catered to a fanbase that grew out of fake freakout videos.

Boogie I know you are reading this, just take the money and run. You have no future on social media. Your shtick is long dead and your fanbase has left you. The only people who follow you closely are people who mock you. Get off social media and try and live a happy last 10 or so years of your life. It will greatly improve your mental health and happiness overall. I mean that seriously

 

[Victim2988]

We all can agree that his last years living will be a raging hell. Organs failing one after one, limbs rotting away, the lack of oxygene despite the tubes, the stench of dead flesh and excrements, lying in bed all day watching the roof in mindblowing pain... As you said he should run away and try to have a little bit of quality life,the last years, the last months maybe still being able to walk, before the last chapter of this slow agony.

 

[BScCollateral]

...but you're calling him out over never seeing a T-Rex Skeleton?

I'm mixed on this.

I agree that "Never saw a T-Rex skeleton" is not a moral failing, but if true, it's a pretty bizarre factoid.

Seriously, the only way it could be true is if he's never been to a mid-tier or better natural history museum. It's nothing like "never been to Boston in the fall" or "never saw a real Easter Island statue." It's close to "Never bought a book."

 

[Dollar Store Sentai]

I'm mixed on this.

I agree that "Never saw a T-Rex skeleton" is not a moral failing, but if true, it's a pretty bizarre factoid.

Seriously, the only way it could be true is if he's never been to a mid-tier or better natural history museum. It's nothing like "never been to Boston in the fall" or "never saw a real Easter Island statue." It's close to "Never bought a book."

I've only seen some unassembled bones, not an entire skeleton. That said, I was a medieval nerd growing up and not a dinosaur nerd, so I spent a lot more time in the arms and armor section.

 

[Beard_Chan]

Just when I think he cant dig his hole any deeper or say something even dumber he does both with those recent tweets... I hope those twitter posts come up in court. Is the internet archive enough to show he actually did post those things if he deletes them? Not sure how well screenshots hold up to scrutiny after deletion.

Its crazy how unremorseful he is for firing his gun in public like that. I've owned guns for years and I would never do that unless someone broke inside my home, and even then Id probably warn them I was armed if they didn't have a gun out. He needs to lose his license, and be punished for the aggravated assault charges. Him playing martyr is just so classic Boogie. He did it for everyone's sake right???. It definitely wasn't just a very poor choice and a dumb fucking mistake.

He is a great warning on how you can be your own worst enemy in life when you have zero self control. These dumb things he says and does all come back to that lack of self-control and accountability. He probably hasn't even read up on what hes facing for aggravated assault, hes just over the moon he has some drama and a story he can try to milk to get attention. If he got 6 months jail time I bet he would be thrilled with that. Think of all the content he would have when he got back! All the prison stories he could make up!