I don't think that I'm disagreeing with anyone else on the thread, but what I've learned overtime is that there is nothing special about Eastern European women when compared to Western European women or American women. They aren't any smarter, prettier, or more loyal. The only real difference is that they aren't as fucked up by western culture as western women. In other words, less obesity, less liberal politics, lower likelyhood to be a single mother, and significantly lower likelyhood to be a single mother of a half-black child. They have this tendency to act more feminine than western women and dress better than western women (I've also seen this in East Asian ex-pats). With that having been said, there are still a lot of western women who don't have the problems that come with western culture and eastern european women probably have a lot of problems that people don't talk about, because they aren't as common in western society as western women. Fetishizing eastern european women is stupid and people should just find someone that they can trust who shares their values and interests.
This is the most comprehensive, and also apt, summary here.
Western Euro men like Eastern Euro women for differing reasons - Some are sensible, others misguided, and there's occasional naivety regarding the likely outcomes.
The quasi-Janissary attitude some Western men have (ie. 'I'll pick up pretty-but-poor pussy from Poltavka') is perhaps the most naive of all.
Rural or working class East Euro girls typically come from traditionalist households, which includes a firm demarcation of gender roles. Unlike West Euro women, East Euro ones of this type
typically have rigid expectations regarding the man's ability to provide for them (and also their family). This is only maximized by virtue of the relative affluence of the West Euro man - Hypergamy is therefore at peak in both parties (man is only looking for appearance, woman for resources). Therefore, the relationship is
destined to failure,
especially as West Euro men cannot typically conform to the expectations of East Euro women (it isn't all monetary - Includes the social dynamic - this is admittedly very bad with Russian women, who sometimes habitually gaslight men on a whim).
It is patently unfair to characterize the women as 'gold diggers' overall, when resource acquisition is the prime directive of female hypergamy, resources are the only 'selling point' to Western Euro men to begin with in general, and scaling Maslow's hierarchy of needs (ie. leaving some shitty Ukrainian village with occasional electrical grid failures and no running hot water) is arguably a higher calling than the Western Euro man's reason to seek a quality fuck (which is ultimately what it usually boils down to; no need for self-delusion, very rarely do Slav-seeking Westerners bother to understand the root culture or history).
Without characterizing all Western men badly - It seems to be the conservative types who are expressing this sentiment. This is fine from a tradition maintenance perspective only if the man is willing to ingratiate themselves into the woman's culture and traditions. 'Conservatism' is not a mutually inclusive attitude between groups (it's usually adversarial, see the shitfest that is the Middle East).
Otherwise, the woman will simply bide her time, collect resources (including permanent residence) and leave the man (preferably for a compatriot in the West, or even a richer Westerner), or return home (depends on their emotionality and gratification deference). This likely won't apply if the man is rich enough, but that's a hyper minority position.
European women who aren't quite so traditional and culturally conservative are those from the big cities, though they're usually now inculcated with the standard Globohomo Rainbow Alliance propaganda, so seeking them is somewhat redundant (ie. you're better off seeking an attractive, traditional conservative rural girl from your own country - They obviously exist, look harder).
Fetishizing any ethnicity or race is always a recipe for disaster.
Western men thinking they'll find a submissive feminine Nordic beauty from abroad, without doing their homework on the culture and the girl, and aren't in a position to provide the way
she and her family expect are in for a rude surprise. You'll read the many stories online anyway, yet, many men still seem to have this strange notion.
