Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once


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There's one thing I think of when I see how far Griff and Ari have distanced themselves from the family.

See, Sanders and Jazz aren't going to support themselves when Gramma and his parents go to that great Botox Clinic in the Sky.

If any major things go sideways for Jazz, you know who's going to be expected to drop everything and run back home and take care of Jazz.

It ain't gonna be mommy dearest. Dad checked out a long time ago, and Sanders is about as useful as a party city wig on a homeless tranny.

Can you imagine how much those two much cringe every time the phone rings?

Busted your ass to get away from the Incredible Televised Freak Show and having to live with the fact that it won't matter what you do. Have a spouse and 3 kids, a job, a house, and a personal life?

At any second some fucking land whale with tubular tits can throw a shitfit about not getting a fifth helping of McDonalds and your phone is ringing.

Fuck that.
 
There's one thing I think of when I see how far Griff and Ari have distanced themselves from the family.

See, Sanders and Jazz aren't going to support themselves when Gramma and his parents go to that great Botox Clinic in the Sky.

If any major things go sideways for Jazz, you know who's going to be expected to drop everything and run back home and take care of Jazz.

It ain't gonna be mommy dearest. Dad checked out a long time ago, and Sanders is about as useful as a party city wig on a homeless tranny.

Can you imagine how much those two much cringe every time the phone rings?

Busted your ass to get away from the Incredible Televised Freak Show and having to live with the fact that it won't matter what you do. Have a spouse and 3 kids, a job, a house, and a personal life?

At any second some fucking land whale with tubular tits can throw a shitfit about not getting a fifth helping of McDonalds and your phone is ringing.

Fuck that.
The only chance to avoid this is leaving the country and getting Jazz a tard wrangler.
 
Dude, no. I get what you're saying but if anything, Jazz needs to be sent to a monastery with men. Giving him the affirmation of being sent to the most "female space" of spaces on earth is the last thing he needs. You all can puzzle piece me for it or whatever but this is an actual thing that troons try to do and it's a transparent bid for validation. Convents don't exist to heal broken male eunuchs.
The Catholic church is going to have to start reckoning with ex-trannies eventually.
Canon 1 of the Council of Nicea says that if you have been castrated for medical reasons, or by barbarians, you can be a priest, but if you’re healthy and self-castrate, you can’t. This presumably has not been an issue at any time remotely recently, but it could be once again because of trannies.
I actually am curious if a monastery would let Jazz in, assuming he converted and started living as a man. They try not to let crazy people become monks.
 
Jeanette was too busy screaming at Jazz to dilate his amhole and dance for the cameras, and that poor toilet ended up being victimized.

As much as I love the idea of Jazz getting to see the world and expand his horizons, those Birthright trips are WIERD. They have an undercurrent of wanting the Jew kids to hook up with each other so they can keep those bloodlines pure. Sanders would be an absolute menace on one of those.

It sounds like you have a decent amount of knowledge on the insane aspects of Birthright trips. Please share more - I’m now incredibly curious and the repeat SANDERS IS CRINGE stuff is kind of getting tiring.

I feel like it’s odd that this threads solution to Jazz’s problem is shuffling him around to help at charity organizations. I get that service to others can help someone, but Jazz honestly needs more than that.

As selfish and narcissistic Jazz is, he really would need to be in a place focused around HIM and helping him to cope with the truth of the matter. That’s all Jazz needs and deserves - TRUTH. Human beings ultimately do NEED this in order to deal/move on with whatever tragedies they’ve been handed in life. When he gets this truth he would then need people to support him and give him a LOT of their time which in itself would be exhausting for most regular normies.

I understand this is cringe as fuck, but Jazz would benefit most from being around a religious community just because they ARE so close knit and go out of their way constantly for others within it. At a new church I went to a few weeks in, a random family invited me to lunch at their house on Easter when I had nothing to do that day. The wife just literally came up and asked me when we had never met before. I went (because I’m crazy too) and they were incredibly pleasant people. Evangelicals are insane that way. Those are the kind of people Jazz would need to be around and Gods Chosen People religion is known for being very in crowd so perhaps it could work there. It would have to be a group of mentally sound people who would give that kind of time to him. Jazz is only ever around fucked up people who are train wrecks.

I know it’s taboo to say this on the internet, but religion CAN help people cope with horrible problems in life. A pillar of Christianity is the pursuit of truth which is what I personally needed when I was dealing with depression. Truth needs a better bedrock than man in this instance because man has been telling Jazz since he was a child that if you cut your dick off you’re then magically a woman. And they KNOW this is BS but they tell this shit to Jazz anyway because they’re pieces of shit. Feelings matter more than truth to them. But how can Jazz EVER feel good if he knows in his heart something to be a lie? It’s why the 41% number is still a thing in the trans community even after the SRS.
 
The Catholic church is going to have to start reckoning with ex-trannies eventually.
Canon 1 of the Council of Nicea says that if you have been castrated for medical reasons, or by barbarians, you can be a priest, but if you’re healthy and self-castrate, you can’t. This presumably has not been an issue at any time remotely recently, but it could be once again because of trannies.
I actually am curious if a monastery would let Jazz in, assuming he converted and started living as a man. They try not to let crazy people become monks.

My main point is only that if anyone took him in, a convent would not be the appropriate place. But Jazz would not be admitted anyway. (Well, the Jesuits might take him, lol.)

But seriously, monasteries and convents don't even admit people on SSRIs, let alone people who have willingly had their genitals removed. I think people imagine that you just show up to a monastery and declare your intentions and they give you a robe, but it is a very long process that tends to unfold naturally. When you're going to become a monk or nun, people kind of notice your life moving in that direction, just like when you're going to become a rockstar or astronaut or join the family business. And the church is full of swooning attention-seeking nutjobs who think they're going to be a saint, and they get weeded out. There are references, background checks, psych evals, physical evals, a letter of recommendation from ones bishop/priest, trial periods that go on for months or even years, and ultimately you have to be accepted by a community simply for being a good fit. Someone who voluntarily cut their own dick off is not going to get through this process. And the church already reckoned with dick-cutting-off in not just the one, but at least two councils. (Although the requirements you mention about becoming a priest are not the same as joining a monastery. Monk =/= priest, although a person can become both.)

If someone detransitioned and hadn't cut off their genitals, I guess they might technically be able to join a convent/monastery. But "technically, on paper" doesn't mean shit when there are huge gaps in your history and your references are Tumblr weirdos and nobody knows your family and the bishop thinks you're maybe insane. (Before anybody says "well, they let lots of pedos in!" I'd say: exactly. And they don't want a repeat of that fiasco.)

Nobody wants to invest time, money, and energy in someone who might disrupt a community and make all the people vouching for them look bad. An ex-troon is a huge liability. If someone detransitioned without severe mutilation, and sincerely joined the church, and could somehow get through that entire process over a period of years, then yeah, I guess they could become a monk/nun? But a detransitioner can't just show up like an orphan and get taken in.

The best recommendation for a eunuch who is sincere about it and doesn't just have medieval fantasies would be to "attach" themselves to the monastery. Laypeople who for one reason or another can't take vows do this all the time. They live near, attend church at, and volunteer with the monks/nuns. It isn't a romantic fantasy, but neither is monastic life anyway.
 
Canon 1 of the Council of Nicea says that if you have been castrated for medical reasons, or by barbarians, you can be a priest, but if you’re healthy and self-castrate, you can’t. This presumably has not been an issue at any time remotely recently, but it could be once again because of trannies.
Yeah, well, you're not supposed to give an apostate the Eucharist either but I've seen a bishop violate that one. I doubt the organization in its current state would give a damn.
 
He could be a Buddhist monk.

"You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like."

Oh shit. I didn't even consider non-Christian monasticism. The process is probably just as boring and similarly wears off all novelty, but I'm still very curious as to what actual insiders have to say about it (not just "technically Jazz could be a Buddhist monk" but how people on the ground think it would actually culturally/socially play out.)
In the end I have to admit that "dude, go to Israel" would probably be a good start. It isn't going to fix the kid but it might trigger something. (Although with a guy like Jazz, the danger is that "something" might be "develops perma-cope" or "41 percents it")

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Yeah, well, you're not supposed to give an apostate the Eucharist either but I've seen a bishop violate that one. I doubt the organization in its current state would give a damn.

Lol ikr? The whole time I was writing my reply I had the gist of your comment in the back of my mind like a nasty little modernist gollum.

I guess I'd just say it's one thing to let someone take communion or join a church or whatever it's another thing to have them permanently join a community. That's my bigger point: that no matter what permissive inclusive bullshit people invent because their parish or diocese is liberal or whatever, when you come face to face with "here's a tranny you'll have to live with forever," suddenly shit has a tendency to get real. Nobody wants someone like Jazz as a ROOMMATE, let alone "a roommate x100 because it's for life."

It isn't just about joining a church or breaking a rule, it's for life, and does anyone want to risk a troon fucking up their entire "family" who all live in one tiny community?
Anyway I'll knock off the tradsperging, but all I can say is that even if I'm a religious nut and a prude and totally backward and have to deal with Fordhamites, I'm glad I'm not Catholic at this particular moment in history.
 
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Oh shit. I didn't even consider non-Christian monasticism. The process is probably just as boring and similarly wears off all novelty, but I'm still very curious as to what actual insiders have to say about it (not just "technically Jazz could be a Buddhist monk" but how people on the ground think it would actually culturally/socially play out.)
In the end I have to admit that "dude, go to Israel" would probably be a good start. It isn't going to fix the kid but it might trigger something. (Although with a guy like Jazz, the danger is that "something" might be "develops perma-cope" or "41 percents it")

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Lol ikr? The whole time I was writing my reply I had the gist of your comment in the back of my mind like a nasty little modernist gollum.

I guess I'd just say it's one thing to let someone take communion or join a church or whatever it's another thing to have them permanently join a community. That's my bigger point: that no matter what permissive inclusive bullshit people invent because their parish or diocese is liberal or whatever, when you come face to face with "here's a tranny you'll have to live with forever," suddenly shit has a tendency to get real. Nobody wants someone like Jazz as a ROOMMATE, let alone "a roommate x100 because it's for life."

It isn't just about joining a church or breaking a rule, it's for life, and does anyone want to risk a troon fucking up their entire "family" who all live in one tiny community?
Anyway I'll knock off the tradsperging, but all I can say is that even if I'm a religious nut and a prude and totally backward and have to deal with Fordhamites, I'm glad I'm not Catholic at this particular moment in history.
Oh yeah, I met a female non-binary, but who took T and passed as a man fairly well, who told me she wanted to join an Episcopal monastery, but they said no because they’re for men, not non binaries. Now the Episcopal church is quite liberal and they have tranny clergy (although her diocese would not approve her as a postulant to Holy Orders on account of being an enby), but actually having to live with them is another matter. I would also suspect they wouldn’t allow a ‘binary trans man’ in either.

The closest Jewish thing to a monastery would be an Israeli kibbutz, a collective farm. Imagine this spoiled Florida boy doing that? Nah.
 
It's unfortunate that Jazz's parents' "comfortable" financial status allows him to just wallow in his misery; he'd be better off if forced to get a job or at least study or train for one. But then, without the disposable wealth (none of this was covered by insurance), he wouldn't be in this mess to begin with! At least Sander seems to be profiting from it.
 
Our knowledge of Jazz only comes from TV. And maybe the family was right that even as a Toddler Jazz wanted to be treated as a girl. We can only speculate that Jazz's dysphoria was brought on by abuse & coaching. We can't prove that though.
I visit an internet discussion forum for gay men pretty regularly, and it’s amazing how many of those guys are grateful to have been raised before transitioning children became acceptable.

They talk about how certain behaviors like an early love for playing dress-up, doing elaborate arts and crafts projects, mimicking flamboyant female celebrities, and an affinity for music or dance would set them on the path to puberty blockers, hormone therapy and, eventually, genital reconfiguration surgery today.

I suspect that Jazz, without interference from gender identity charlatans and having been raised by halfway sane parents, could have developed into a healthy and well-adjusted gay man. Instead, he was diagnosed with gender dysphoria by the age of just 5 years-old.
 
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