US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

I'm not an expert on the Texan constitution, but I believe that by doing this , state officials are legally obligated to attend. The ones that fled to DC will be breaking the law and they can send law enforcement (probably Texas Rangers or something) to retrieve them and haul them into the chamber in cuffs.

I am sure they can do this. But they shouldn't detain elected officials and drag them back to Texas. That's not a constructive use of their resources and is a needless escalation of tensions.

 

[Gehenna]

I am sure they can do this. But they shouldn't detain elected officials and drag them back to Texas. That's not a constructive use of their resources and is a needless escalation of tensions.

In what way is it not a constructive use of their resources? Not only is it cheap as fuck, it costs them nothing politically due to the deep polarization. What would you suggest is the actual way they should expend their resources?

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

In what way is it not a constructive use of their resources? Not only is it cheap as fuck, it costs them nothing politically due to the deep polarization. What would you suggest is the actual way they should expend their resources?

A constructive use of their resources would be to continue working to keep the people of Texas safe from crime. Rounding up politicians is no good for anyone and law enforcement would be wise to stay far away from the interpersonal and policy conflicts of the elected representatives of the people.

If the politicians want to be brats, let them be brats.

 

[Gehenna]

A constructive use of their resources would be to continue working to keep the people of Texas safe from crime. Rounding up politicians is no good for anyone and law enforcement would be wise to stay far away from the interpersonal and policy conflicts of the elected representatives of the people.

If the politicians want to be brats, let them be brats.

Okay, a few things.

The official who does this only works within the congress and nowhere else, it a single person albeit one who can enlist others, it's still cheap as fuck given those they'd enlist would be freely available. Also this is explicitly their job.

Finally, the action would be so they can pass law to ensure the integrity of their elections. Which is kinda important. But yes, them fleeing to prevent this is just them being 'brats'.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

Okay, a few things.

The official who does this only works within the congress and nowhere else, it a single person albeit one who can enlist others, it's still cheap as fuck given those they'd enlist would be freely available. Also this is explicitly their job.

Finally, the action would be so they can pass law to ensure the integrity of their elections. Which is kinda important. But yes, them fleeing to prevent this is just them being 'brats'.

No good precedent is set by arresting elected officials for protesting, no matter how dumb that protest may be.

 

[Gehenna]

No good precedent is set by arresting elected officials for protesting, no matter how dumb that protest may be.

They aren't just protesting, they are actively disrupting the process of the state while being a member of said state. They are committing dereliction of duty and a clear violation of their oath of office. So I would say going "No, you can't do this" would in fact be a good precedent.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

They aren't just protesting, they are actively disrupting the process of the state while being a member of said state. They are committing dereliction of duty and a clear violation of their oath of office. So I would say going "No, you can't do this" would in fact be a good precedent.

I hear you, but it won't play out like that. The political class will use it as an excuse to start arresting one another over policy disagreements and it will bleed out to the public. People already advocate for censoring and removing people that voice opinions they disagree with. Right now that contingent is largely on the left wing of American politics. To arrest left wing politicians over a policy dispute will only justify crackdowns on the right by the left. Because we have to stop the tyrants before they throw us all in jail. The left has no base in principle and such an outcome could easily happen, if not celebrated.

The right's grip on principle is tenuous at best, but they should be able to see an obvious trap when it is laid out before them on a golden platter.

 

[Gehenna]

I hear you, but it won't play out like that. The political class will use it as an excuse to start arresting one another over policy disagreements and it will bleed out to the public. People already advocate for censoring and removing people that voice opinions they disagree with. Right now that contingent is largely on the left wing of American politics. To arrest left wing politicians over a policy dispute will only justify crackdowns on the right by the left. Because we have to stop the tyrants before they throw us all in jail. The left has no base in principle and such an outcome could easily happen, if not celebrated.

The right's grip on principle is tenuous at best, but they should be able to see an obvious trap when it is laid out before them on a golden platter.

The thing is, the ability to haul them in is defined by law and outlined. This is not an ad hoc power, it's a strictly made power that exists within the rule of law as is.

Meaning, it's unlikely to expand further. It's not a new power, it's just a rarely exercised power.

Also, it's not arresting, you appear to misunderstand the situation. The policy is that they can be hauled in and forced to stay until the session is over. Its specifically "You will do your damn job" not "Oh, you left? Go to jail."

 

[The Last Stand]

Whatever happened to talking things out?

 

[JosephStalin]

Even the Delaware highway rest stop named after Joe is a shithole. Why am I not surprised?

‘Complete Shithole’: Biden’s Namesake Rest Stop in Disarray​

Matthew Foldi and Joseph Simonson• July 13, 2021 5:00 am


NEWARK, Del.—At the September 2018 naming ceremony for the Biden Welcome Center off the highway in Delaware, the now-president said having his name on the rest stop was "one of the most meaningful" things to happen in his life. Once billed as a "rest stop of the future" by the enthusiasts at Roadside America for its "environmentally sensitive and sustainable design," the stop has devolved into a dysfunctional dump, according to a Washington Free Beacon investigation.
The restrooms, equipped with an overflowing used-needle deposit box, were abnormally crowded during a mid-week July trip to the Biden Welcome Center. This was likely due to the fact that only half of the bathrooms were open, and a majority of stalls in open bathrooms were either out of service or too filthy for public use. One gentleman who entered the men's room kicked open a bathroom stall door, let out a muffled yell at whatever sat inside the toilet, and left the facility altogether.

Near the exit of the men's room sat a box for biomedical waste filled to the brim with hypodermic needles, which constitutes one of the more sanitary parts of the entire bathroom. The state of the bathrooms observed by the Free Beacon was tame compared with what's been seen by others, according to online reviews. One visitor said the lack of attention paid to the bathrooms created an unsafe situation for her children.
"The bathrooms need to be cleaner. … My sons told their father there was a creepy man trying to look at them in stall, and when we went to the bathroom the man was exiting the bathroom to purchase food and eat it in the bathroom!" wrote the mother's online review. "If you had regular cleaners for the bathroom this could possibly have been reported sooner."
A Virginia couple who stopped at the Biden Welcome Center on the tail-end of a 10-hour drive from New England said it was the worst rest stop they've ever encountered.
"The place is a complete shithole," said the Virginia man. "Just so filthy—we felt like we needed a shower before we got back in the car."

Outside the rest stop, a shirtless homeless man, who presumably made the dangerous trek across I-95, sat on the curb baking in 95 degree heat. Empty malt liquor cans were scattered across the parking lot. In the defense of the littering drinkers, the ground was their only option—most of the garbage cans were filled well beyond capacity.
But cleanliness was just the beginning of the rest stop's problems. The Discover Delaware tourism booth was gated off. Many of the over-priced restaurants housed in the Biden Welcome Center were suffering from apparent food shortages. The Burger King blared on its self-serve kiosk that "crispy chicken and spicy chicken have been discontinued," and the Pret a Manger's food shelves were shuttered altogether. Perhaps due to Delaware's impending $15 minimum wage, the self-service kiosks filled the food court.

Electric vehicle owners hoping for special treatment at the rest stop, named for a president who has promised to elevate the electric car industry with $174 billion, were also likely disappointed. Half the spots reserved for low-emission vehicles were roped off with caution tape, and the other half were occupied by standard gas-guzzling sedans. While the Free Beacon did not spot any gas lines, the Sunoco, like countless other businesses around the country, sported a "HELP WANTED" sign.

While the president won his home state by nearly 20 points in 2020, there were signs that not every Delawarean is on board with Joe Biden. Just five miles away in neighboring Wilmington, the Free Beacon saw a series of cars bearing cardboard signs in the rear window with the same message: "Prosecute Hunter Biden."

'Complete Shithole': Biden's Namesake Rest Stop in Disarray - Washington Free Beacon

NEWARK, Del.—At the September 2018 naming ceremony for the Biden Welcome Center off the highway in Delaware, the now-president said having his name on the rest stop was "one of the most meaningful" things to happen in his life. Once billed as a "rest stop of the future" by the enthusiasts at...

freebeacon.com

‘Complete Shithole’: Biden’s Namesake Rest Stop in Disarray

archived 13 Jul 2021 14:35:51 UTC

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[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

I hear you, but it won't play out like that. The political class will use it as an excuse to start arresting one another over policy disagreements and it will bleed out to the public. People already advocate for censoring and removing people that voice opinions they disagree with. Right now that contingent is largely on the left wing of American politics. To arrest left wing politicians over a policy dispute will only justify crackdowns on the right by the left. Because we have to stop the tyrants before they throw us all in jail. The left has no base in principle and such an outcome could easily happen, if not celebrated.

The right's grip on principle is tenuous at best, but they should be able to see an obvious trap when it is laid out before them on a golden platter.

If the Left has no principles why the hell do we continue to keep them? The left treats this like a war and in war there are no principles.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

If the Left has no principles why the hell do we continue to keep them? The left treats this like a war and in war there are no principles.

Because they're half our country, our family, our friends and our neighbors. And they are mostly no better or worse than you or I.

The thing is, the ability to haul them in is defined by law and outlined. This is not an ad hoc power, it's a strictly made power that exists within the rule of law as is.

Meaning, it's unlikely to expand further. It's not a new power, it's just a rarely exercised power.

Also, it's not arresting, you appear to misunderstand the situation. The policy is that they can be hauled in and forced to stay until the session is over. Its specifically "You will do your damn job" not "Oh, you left? Go to jail."

It is not going to play like that at all. The way I framed it is the way it will be seen and understood. And that will only lead to worse outcomes.

 

[Gehenna]

Because they're half our country, our family, our friends and our neighbors. And they are mostly no better or worse than you or I.


It is not going to play like that at all. The way I framed it is the way it will be seen and understood. And that will only lead to worse outcomes.

I fundamentally disagree. Leaving aside it would require the left to ever get control of Texas politics, this is so narrowly tailored that at -worst- it means the Republicans can't pull the same thing. Given I condemned the last Republicans to do it, I don't have a problem with that.

Everything else you said is simply fear porn, this isn't arresting anyone, and going on the backfoot to say "Well the people will SEE it like that" is simply goal shifting. And will have absolutely no effect outside of Texas. It's divorced from reality.

 

[Blake Chortles]

No good precedent is set by arresting elected officials for protesting, no matter how dumb that protest may be.

Doesn't seem like a protest. More like a deliberate interference and obstruction with legitimate governmental processes. Almost like an insurrection.

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

Because they're half our country, our family, our friends and our neighbors. And they are mostly no better or worse than you or I.


It is not going to play like that at all. The way I framed it is the way it will be seen and understood. And that will only lead to worse outcomes.

"Muh Principles" don't win wars

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

"Muh Principles" don't win wars

We're not at war.

 

[Nacho Man Randy Salsa]

We're not at war.

Were at the Bleeding Kansas part of the civil war.

 

[gaystoner]

These people can't live in DC until 2022.

 

[Jordi El Nino Polla]

Were at the Bleeding Kansas part of the civil war.

Are we? I'm not so sure.

 

[Hatoful Dandy]

I hope none of those runaway Dems are climate change zealots because they'd be hypocrites, what with the carbon footprint their private jets left as they shirked responsibility...