General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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Not you Claire, muh seiso where i will find solace among all the degenerates :sobs:
It's a totally wholesome "pet me" collar. Seeing it as something else mean your degenerate mind need more purifying in her light.
 
Speaking of Claire,
Some guy was sperging about a nun vtuber being a tranny recently, I assume he was talking about Claire.
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He hasn't given anything more substantial. I didn't think it was interesting enough on its own but since you mention her I thought I would post it.
the new fangled word the kids use nowadays is "vagueposting" and it's very annoying
not only would I have to believe that this presumably non-japanese speaker DM'd a japanese virtual youtuber who from what I've seen does not have good English, Claire would also have to have an interest in video games that is not reflected in any way on her channel, which is 99% chat streams
 
Speaking of Claire,
Some guy was sperging about a nun vtuber being a tranny recently, I assume he was talking about Claire.
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He hasn't given anything more substantial. I didn't think it was interesting enough on its own but since you mention her I thought I would post it.
Anyone that even contemplates that twatter randos words as plausible deserves to be spat on.

>i am not fond of deception or fakes

If there's something worse than a grifter, it's a hypocrite that thinks turning into a grifter is as easy as "just start vagueposting shit about trend and hope they buy it". :story:

EDIT: Matsuri Level: Rising
 
So currently Botan(and Nene) and Aruran are stuck in BlueUpa limbo.

Kanata got one after breeding 3k+ upas. FBK got one around a day since she also bred them off-stream. Horni(not sure if Matsuri helped or trying to get one herself at the time) got one under an hour. Flare got it after breeding almost 1.2k upas.

Also, have another Lion Succ.

Edit: apparently Flare actually got a blue upa before she did the blue upa challenge and got another one on stream.
 
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My brain decided the correct response to this was to immediately imagine the HoloMyth girls trying to perform this live onstage and I think I need a new set of lungs.
 
Just to recap. Assuming that the identities of OBSYDIA are indeed correct, we have:

1. A YouTuber who gained 1mil subs from self-made shitpost/meme animations. Good singer. Makes her own music (seems to have a Lo-Fi fix). Good artist. Has a strong connection with meme culture.

2. A self-translating Trilingual with a fondness for fighting games. High-ranking Tekken player. A natural in front of the camera.

3. An absolutely cracked as all fuck APEX Predator-level player who speaks 5 languages. Is obviously extremely talented at video games and can apparently draw and sing.

I think that's a solid, all-encompassing line-up.
 
ria stuff

Interesting, but at this point still no hard evidence and just passing remark, circumstantial evidence. Better keep an eye on I guess. Worse case she's a person who selfish and take her own first and foremost. Not an entirely bad thing to have if you want to get big.
Seems like Miki/Ria/Rosemi is going to be the first NijiEN with actual antis before they even debut, so I think some extra info (as much as we have, anyway) is warranted:

- June 20th, 2020: Fuzuki Miki debuts as an indie vtuber
- June 28th: Tsunderia announces their gen 1 auditions are open
- November 29th: Tsunderia announces their first gen, TsunQuest
- November 30th: Nijisanji EN Wave 1/2 auditions are announced
- December 14th/15th: Nijisanji EN Wave 1/2 auditions close
- December 18th/19th: TsunQuest debuts (Ria's debut was on the 19th)
- March 28th, 2021: Tsunderia announces Ria's graduation
- April 4th: Ria graduates
- May 4th: Fuzuki Miki announces her graduation mid-stream
- May 21st: Fuzuki Miki graduates
- July 14th: Obsydia is announced

Disclaimer: I don't follow Tsunderia/Miki, I just lurk a lot so some of this info may be incorrect

Based on the timeline of things, it seems like Miki wanted to make it big and hedged her bets by applying to multiple companies. At the time Tsunquest auditions were announced last year, HoloEN hadn't debuted yet and Tsunderia was pretty much the only Western-based VTuber agency in the market (and they were barely getting off the ground at that). If you wanted to make it big as a VTuber, why wouldn't you apply to one of the biggest agencies in the market if they announced auditions? It's honestly really weird to me that when it comes to VTuber agencies people love pushing the "the company is one big happy family and you have to give everything to them" mindset while they'd scream for you to gtfo from a company that did that in any other industry.

Shit like this is always questionable to me, like what lol
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It's also worth noting that the Fuzuki Miki character was more popular than Kirihime Ria (iirc it had something like 3x the subs), despite the supposed assets/help/whatever Tsunderia gave her. In her first and only members-only stream following the graduation announcement, she mentioned that she joined Tsunderia in hopes of getting managerial guidance, but she hadn't talked to her manager (PPP, the CEO of the company) in the last 2 months -- so basically for 2 out of the 3 months she was active as Ria, she had absolutely no managerial support lol. She blames it on both her and PPP being major introverts but imo if you're assigned to manage a talent then you should...I don't know, maybe actually manage them? In contrast, Yuuna's manager Urara seems to have a much closer relationship with her talent and even does her schedules for her sometimes.

Also the whole "management was anti-loli" thing is fucking ridiculous considering their original top talent Kana literally looks like this:
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Other stuff:
- it's not known whether Tsunderia actually paid off Miori's debt as part of her signing
- the reason for Kana leaving is unclear but the most common theory is she had some conflict with her Discord mods (including the Tsunderia employee who later left, S-Train)
- Ria did have one collab with genmate Kallin, in the members-only stream she claims she is bad at reaching out to people (hence why she wanted a manager to push her to do more) and Kallin was the one that reached out to her for the collab
- it seems Miki/Ria did stream more as Miki than as Ria, which is a valid criticism but anyone saying her keeping her indie persona shows "lack of commitment" to the company is either a dumbass who doesn't know about Coco/Matsuri or a hypocrite
- some people on /vt/ claim Miki/Ria has had a bad rep for a long time as a social climber who ditches friends once she grows bigger than them, but I've yet to see concrete proof of maliciousness so take that as you will
 
Seems like Miki/Ria/Rosemi is going to be the first NijiEN with actual antis before they even debut, so I think some extra info (as much as we have, anyway) is warranted:

- June 20th, 2020: Fuzuki Miki debuts as an indie vtuber
- June 28th: Tsunderia announces their gen 1 auditions are open
- November 29th: Tsunderia announces their first gen, TsunQuest
- November 30th: Nijisanji EN Wave 1/2 auditions are announced
- December 14th/15th: Nijisanji EN Wave 1/2 auditions close
- December 18th/19th: TsunQuest debuts (Ria's debut was on the 19th)
- March 28th, 2021: Tsunderia announces Ria's graduation
- April 4th: Ria graduates
- May 4th: Fuzuki Miki announces her graduation mid-stream
- May 21st: Fuzuki Miki graduates
- July 14th: Obsydia is announced

Disclaimer: I don't follow Tsunderia/Miki, I just lurk a lot so some of this info may be incorrect

Based on the timeline of things, it seems like Miki wanted to make it big and hedged her bets by applying to multiple companies. At the time Tsunquest auditions were announced last year, HoloEN hadn't debuted yet and Tsunderia was pretty much the only Western-based VTuber agency in the market (and they were barely getting off the ground at that). If you wanted to make it big as a VTuber, why wouldn't you apply to one of the biggest agencies in the market if they announced auditions? It's honestly really weird to me that when it comes to VTuber agencies people love pushing the "the company is one big happy family and you have to give everything to them" mindset while they'd scream for you to gtfo from a company that did that in any other industry.

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It's also worth noting that the Fuzuki Miki character was more popular than Kirihime Ria (iirc it had something like 3x the subs), despite the supposed assets/help/whatever Tsunderia gave her. In her first and only members-only stream following the graduation announcement, she mentioned that she joined Tsunderia in hopes of getting managerial guidance, but she hadn't talked to her manager (PPP, the CEO of the company) in the last 2 months -- so basically for 2 out of the 3 months she was active as Ria, she had absolutely no managerial support lol. She blames it on both her and PPP being major introverts but imo if you're assigned to manage a talent then you should...I don't know, maybe actually manage them? In contrast, Yuuna's manager Urara seems to have a much closer relationship with her talent and even does her schedules for her sometimes.

Also the whole "management was anti-loli" thing is fucking ridiculous considering their original top talent Kana literally looks like this:
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Other stuff:
- it's not known whether Tsunderia actually paid off Miori's debt as part of her signing
- the reason for Kana leaving is unclear but the most common theory is she had some conflict with her Discord mods (including the Tsunderia employee who later left, S-Train)
- Ria did have one collab with genmate Kallin, in the members-only stream she claims she is bad at reaching out to people (hence why she wanted a manager to push her to do more) and Kallin was the one that reached out to her for the collab
- it seems Miki/Ria did stream more as Miki than as Ria, which is a valid criticism but anyone saying her keeping her indie persona shows "lack of commitment" to the company is either a dumbass who doesn't know about Coco/Matsuri or a hypocrite
- some people on /vt/ claim Miki/Ria has had a bad rep for a long time as a social climber who ditches friends once she grows bigger than them, but I've yet to see concrete proof of maliciousness so take that as you will
Thanks for the insight, fren. Always appreciated.

Glad to see management didn't overreact to it. And glad to see it didn't affect Pekora's enjoyment of it at all.

She did play with only members this time, which is probably a good compromise:
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Glad to see nothing terrible came of this, and that Pekora still wants to enjoy it, regardless of the fucker who tried to ruin it last time. Good on her.
 

Damn, after seeing Canan that's a bold statement to make Marine

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I enjoy these kind of interactions rather than the super thirsty "Awawawa look at my new koUhAi let me fuck u~~" Thanks Elira. Who am I kidding this is probably the well known Nijisanji bullying, it's matter of time before we have another Roa incident.
 
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