Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

[narcissistic injury]

extranny456 and snl825 - both lowercase, followed by three seemingly random numbers.

Post of the year from @fax_machine

I wonder if PT has seen any of these latest posts yet lollll

 

[UngluedSeahorse]

snl825 has had a deleting spree. fax_machine numbered the tweets at 687, now 616. I don’t remember the page, but i’d say he’s been deleting the quote tweets (like the ones posted earlier) where he rabidly defended PT in November. It’s a crying shame tbh. Those were some of the funniest

 

[narcissistic injury]

snl825 has had a deleting spree. fax_machine numbered the tweets at 687, now 616. I don’t remember the page, but i’d say he’s been deleting the quote tweets (like the ones posted earlier) where he rabidly defended PT in November. It’s a crying shame tbh. Those were some of the funniest

Omg soooo… he has definitely seen them. Could he be any more obvious? Jesus Christ

 

[Clem Fandango]

Hi Olly

You are a man

That is all

 

[esmeggs]

snl825 has had a deleting spree. fax_machine numbered the tweets at 687, now 616. I don’t remember the page, but i’d say he’s been deleting the quote tweets (like the ones posted earlier) where he rabidly defended PT in November. It’s a crying shame tbh. Those were some of the funniest

Another burner (?) account gave him an excuse to. The only account they follow is snl825, and the only tweet on the account is this one telling snl825 that they deadnamed Olly:

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[Karras Rising]

Another burner (?) account gave him an excuse to. The only account they follow is snl825, and the only tweet on the account is this one telling snl825 that they deadnamed Olly.

This just gets weirder and weirder. Whoever is behind these accounts () has only done this to justify the tweets being deleted - which makes absolutely no sense, since nobody is going to trawl through snl825's account and question why old tweets got deleted. FYI 'thedarkergorgon' has also been on a deleting spree at some point - apparently they got into some argument with a furry in May last year.

This is the behaviour of a very dishonest person who wants to manipulate optics, even for something as insignificant as this.

 

[Game master arino]

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I wonder how many takes they did of his great troon ~unveiling~. It literally looks like he barely clears the door without crouching.

And just look at that wide eyed look on his face. Wide eyes and thousand yard stares are his only two facial emotions. Some actor. I think he tries to project some kind of sparkly ~wonderment~ vibe as a woman. It reminds me of circa 1992 Michael Jackson. The breathy voice, the phony wonderment: “Today, we’re gonna go in a hot air balloon!”

In one of Olly’s live streams he says at the end that he’s going to go home and...have some ice cream. Not, he’s going to go out for ice cream with a friend, he literally goes all wide eyed and says “I’m gonna go home and have some ice cream” in his whispy, creepy voice. It’s just odd.

It looks like he transitioned into a Les Misérables character instead of a women. I always knew he was going to troon out because he only talks about left wing retardation instead of real philosophy like kant. Especially after his breadtube friends trooned out. I see them more as a sex cult than a real community mainly because of how often they "ironically" joke about how much they want to fuck each other.

 

[AntiStan23]

This is the behaviour of a very dishonest person who wants to manipulate optics, even for something as insignificant as this

It’s the behavior of a narcissistic lolcow. Oh, Hi Abi!

 

[esmeggs]

This just gets weirder and weirder. Whoever is behind these accounts () has only done this to justify the tweets being deleted - which makes absolutely no sense, since nobody is going to trawl through snl825's account and question why old tweets got deleted. FYI 'thedarkergorgon' has also been on a deleting spree at some point - apparently they got into some argument with a furry in May last year.

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This is the behaviour of a very dishonest person who wants to manipulate optics, even for something as insignificant as this.

That was quick.

 

[narcissistic injury]

Another burner (?) account gave him an excuse to. The only account they follow is snl825, and the only tweet on the account is this one telling snl825 that they deadnamed Olly:
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Trying to plant the seed that snl285 clearly cannot be Olly. Gotta shift the narrative. New account can accuse them of transphobia and kill the theory. And now they can sneak around with the new burner account privately. Not another series of obvious moves at all

Olly, how does it feel to have a group of internet ppl calling you out on your sad sad schemes? Thought you were pretty clever, yeah? All the enbys would fall for your latest acting role - an American cis-woman on Twitter and none would be the wiser, eh babes? Pretty embarrassing stuff!!

 

[Tombigbee]

Don’t forget Contra is reading this, too. Now Contra thinks you’re even more of a freak.

 

[UngluedSeahorse]

I re-read that weird extranny post from a few pages back. No tism analysis on this one, everyone else did that very well. The post does, often strongly, resemble Olly’s writing. Plus this thread has a few other odd posts that mimic that aforementioned language and punctuation style closely. Getting a bit conspiratorial now but given the sock account, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has contributed to this thread more than once before

Also this feels like a hate crime

 

[NynchLiggers]

I re-read that weird extranny post from a few pages back. No tism analysis on this one, everyone else did that very well. The post does, often strongly, resemble Olly’s writing. Plus this thread has a few other odd posts that mimic that aforementioned language and punctuation style closely. Getting a bit conspiratorial now but given the sock account, I wouldn’t be surprised if he has contributed to this thread more than once before

View attachment 2353835 Also this feels like a hate crime

Wannabe e-celebs trying to make their KF threads larger in a attempt to build a online presenceis not out of place.

 

[LizCurly89]

I wonder what people like Hbomberguy and Lindsay Ellis really think of Olly. They are not idiots, and you'd think they'd see the red flags with how sociopathic Olly comes off.

It's obvious that all these people orbit around each other for the clout they can harvest off one another. That being said, Hbomberguy and PT seemed to have had a decent relationship as of a couple years ago. They appeared in each other's content, and they both did the 'Breadtube live panel' at that London University along with AngieSpeaks.

Harris and Contra were present at Ellis' wedding, but not PT, so they're probably not close. Ellis did cast Olly as a voice actor for her audiobook. The presumably male role was to be featured alongside fellow Breadhead troon Fat Blaque. That opportunity was probably set up thru his previous relations w/Contra, who as we all know is the fag to Ellis' hag, so that's probably up in the air at this point. Unless Ellis wants to troon her main charecter so "Abi" can pad his resume.

Don’t forget Contra is reading this, too. Now Contra thinks you’re even more of a freak.

As cringey as PT's Contra obsession is, at the end of the day, it's what Nyk had coming to him.
I'm sure @Nykysnottrans can attest to the fact that he skinwalked plenty of women before he laid the foundation for "Abigail Thorne" to emerge thru his fling with Olly. I have a sneaking suspicion that Contra's "assault" was little more than someone interacting w/him in a way which made him feel like the man that he is, thus shattering the supposedly agreed upon delusion that he is a true and honest woman. It's the bruise to the narcissistic AGP façade which cannot be forgiven. Thats why Ollie was in such a rush to go from GAMP to AGP, so as to defend himself against the gender ideologues he's trying to court.

 

[AfghanBlue]

Wannabe e-celebs trying to make their KF threads larger in a attempt to build a online presenceis not out of place.

whoever /whatever that was, it was transparently had an agenda. boring post that pretends to ‘just want to clear the facts’ but by its own pretence couldn’t know anything and has nothing interesting to say other than trying to make ollys timeline a little more tasteful? check.
weird use of terms like Tranny and TIM despite being an ex- one? i don’t think someone’s gonna go straight from trans into the deliberately hurtful terms used by terfs. you’d think they’d have a bit more hard won empathy. unless you know, olly, you’re a narcissist. as well as a bad actor.
your shitty attempt to fit in with the reprobates you imagine post here was like everything else you do, painfully agenda driven, badly acted, and just generally never as clever as you think.


just want to say again well done to @fax machine , great work that’s hopefully shit up the smug cunt a touch. go and buy yourself a nice juicy kiwi fruit and delight in the joy you have brought to your fellow farmers. you deserve it

@narcissistic injury haha, that screenshot where ‘someone’ tells ‘someone’ about a totes legit reason to delete the evidence (at 7 in the morning, lol) has all the hallmarks of Olly in the reply. over explaining every boring facet of his lie

 

[Tombigbee]

weird use of terms like Tranny and TIM despite being an ex- one? i don’t think someone’s gonna go straight from trans into the deliberately hurtful terms used by terfs. you’d think they’d have a bit more hard won empathy. unless you know, olly, you’re a narcissist. as well as a bad actor.

I thought the use of those slurs stood out as well. The author of that post also used “tran,” which Olly DOES say in his livestreams. (“Do I look like a tran with a plan?”) When you see how mentally unhinged and manic the person in this video is, it’s not hard to imagine that they would be creepy enough to launch these anon accounts and engage in facade management tactics.

And by the by, can someone please tell me why the fuck he keeps sticking his tongue out? Is it supposed to make his face look more….feminine?? Is it supposed to be “sexy?” Genuinely I’m puzzled. Is it a known troon thing? I can’t imagine why an almost 30 year old would be doing that over and over. He does it tons in various streams and it’s so creepy and random.

 

[Pinga]

I thought the use of those slurs stood out as well. The author of that post also used “tran,” which Olly DOES say in his livestreams. (“Do I look like a tran with a plan?”) When you see how mentally unhinged and manic the person in this video is, it’s not hard to imagine that they would be creepy enough to launch these anon accounts and engage in facade management tactics.

And by the by, can someone please tell me why the fuck he keeps sticking his tongue out? Is it supposed to make his face look more….feminine?? Is it supposed to be “sexy?” Genuinely I’m puzzled. Is it a known troon thing? I can’t imagine why an almost 30 year old would be doing that over and over. He does it tons in various streams and it’s so creepy and random.

It's because he's playing the role of dumb woman. Halfway there Olly.

 

[AntiStan23]

And by the by, can someone please tell me why the fuck he keeps sticking his tongue out?

„Teeheehee I‘m just smarter and funnier than anyone else“
it’s her mask slipping. It’s such an unflattering look on her that it must be involuntarily. She annoys the fuck out of me with that bratty tongue as well. Keep your fucking tongue where it belongs, philosophy troon! Thanks.

also in that clip you can observe her practice her contrapoints-bimbo-shreak on multiple occasions. „Aaaaahhh“… just shut the hell up please! It’s way enough when hontra does it all the time.

 

[esmeggs]

Harris and Contra were present at Ellis' wedding, but not PT, so they're probably not close. Ellis did cast Olly as a voice actor for her audiobook. The presumably male role was to be featured alongside fellow Breadhead troon Fat Blaque. That opportunity was probably set up thru his previous relations w/Contra, who as we all know is the fag to Ellis' hag, so that's probably up in the air at this point. Unless Ellis wants to troon her main charecter so "Abi" can pad his resume.

This was allegedly posted on Lindsay's twitter account in 2018, probably from when Olly went to vidcon but maybe they could somewhat close. At 1:16:30 of the Ideology stream Olly revealed that Ellis was going to send him a preview of her video before she uploaded it, so they're still on good terms. Again makes it seem like whatever happened between Nyk and Olly wasn't too bad.

Don’t forget Contra is reading this, too. Now Contra thinks you’re even more of a freak.

Nyk is such a pornsick degenerate that he has no place judging Olly. If Nyk really told Olly that he was too male to be a troon then he has absolutely zero self-awareness himself.

 

[fax machine]

just want to say again well done to @fax machine , great work that’s hopefully shit up the smug cunt a touch. go and buy yourself a nice juicy kiwi fruit and delight in the joy you have brought to your fellow farmers. you deserve it

Cheers! Catching up on the last few pages was all the fun I could ask for. Semper fi to all those who dug deeper and took screenshots.

The extranny456 post is interesting for sure, especially since it's factually wrong at several points, the most important of which esmeggs pointed out soon after: that PT and Contra had unfollowed each other by August 2020. extranny wants us to believe that they were friendly until at least January 30, 2021, when PT came out as Abigail. This falsehood is apparently supposed to make PT's Contra reference in his coming out video ("to paraphrase a great trans woman and a dear old friend...") less creepy. Tough luck for him that their fans are mad enough to keep track of details like Twitter follows.

With that error in mind, I can't buy any of extranny's other claims. If he's a PT fan, he's a blowhard raging about "dumb mistakes" without checking his own facts. If he's PT, he's lying and he knows it. Either way, the unreliability of this user adds a new layer of lunacy to his version of the falling out:

March 8th 2021: Nyk gets an ask about Oliver's coming out and says "I am not in that person's life anymore. I had an inkling but I don't particularly want to speak about it."
He says it like it's an open wound. Very different compared to the way he, for example, talks about his own rape.
Now this one is interesting for multiple reasons. First, we can tell that Nyk didn't know Oliver was trans, that's pretty obvious. Second, notice that the wording is "I am not in THIS PERSON's life", not "This person is not in my life anymore". He doesn't even acknowledge Oliver's new name on his own, he struggles to even say it out loud when reading the question.
Now I know y'all love to paint Oliver as this big narcissist supervillain (tbh i just think that's giving him too much credit, he's a soyboy with a big ego at best) so I get that what I'm gonna say will be controversial but...I think Oliver might've been the one to end things with Nyk.

At this point it's only speculation but what I think happened was pretty much:
O: Hey Nat! Look I'm a tran! My name is Abigail now! I paid an homage to you in my coming out statement!
N (high on opioids): ...Olly I don't know what the fuck happened but you're not trans. I know you! You're a guy through and through! When we met you were an absolute Chad! Please stop this man you're embarrassing yourself, the pandemic just got you all messed up.
O:...fuck off??

If this is PT, he super fucking wants us to believe that he cut off Contra, not the other way around — even though he was the one with Contra's name in his mouth long after their mutual unfollowing. He's the guy who gets broken up with and then tells his friends that HE did the breaking up because SHE was being a bitch. ("Don't you feel sorry for me now??") I hesitate to extrapolate further because we don't have as much evidence on extranny's identity as on snl825's, but if it's PT, he's making the already weird vibes of his "my girlfriend abused me" video even worse. Lying about Contra to save face makes him look like exactly the kind of person who would lie about his ex.

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Someone made a thread in r/PhilosophyTube about the /tttt/ rape theory (archive).

Took ages for the mod to remove it. Looks like the Pepe Silvia board is circulating more widely.

Of course, if/when it blows up, it'll fall apart as soon as someone points out that PT and Contra livestreamed together in April 2020, months after Contra said she could #MeToo a prominent leftist in January 2020. They unfollowed each other in the middle of the pandemic, between April (the livestream) and August (when fans noticed the unfollowing). Whatever triggered the rift cannot have happened in person. But the rape memes live on.

It's a shame that people keep spreading shitposting like it's true when the real stuff is already so mockable. This is a man who pretends to be a philosopher while desperately seeking Twitter's approval for his thoughts, who calls himself an actor and flops every time he tries to act sincere. He named himself the transgender princess of TERF Island with fewer than 1M subscribers to his channel. He lashes out with alts to control the conversation whenever someone breathes a word of criticism. Isn't that enough?

It's getting to him.

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