General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[kadmckool]

As much as I'm inclined to agree, I do have to wonder how much of it is a result of needing some kind of unique 'pull' that sets them apart.

Like, the gaming, shit-talking, singing, meeting aspects of being a V-Tuber are practically monopolised by Hololive, Nijisanji, VSPO and VSHOJO. VOMS only have Pikamee's occasional viral clip to their name as Tomoshika largely flies under the radar, and the likes of Axel-V, SugarLyric, 774, Tsunderia cannot get a word in now that the market is the way it is.

So I imagine the philosophy for companies now will be 'How do we turn a profit when we enter an oversaturated market?' and the individual answers are likely to be filled with blunders.

Do I think this is a good look for CL? No. Do I think they're scummy if they're forcing this? Yes. But I also think that if CL dial this one back it can be forgiven, because we're probably going to see a lot more of these wild, precarious 'ideas' as new companies vie for their slice of the cake.

I'd like CyberLive to be successful by their own metrics whilst keeping the members safe. It's just a case of not knowing what those metrics are and if they're hitting them.

Interestingly, there’s also the R18 aspect of Vtubing that no one but Melody is seriously doing so far with her milk cow Chaturbate.
I’ll say if some JP companies are ballsy enough, they would get some notorious “expired” JAV actresses and turn them into Vtuber like Melody. Heck they also get those “not sell” AKB48 members on the ride as well.

 

[(iIivVvbBb-iIimMmvVv)]

you're being awfully autistic over something you supposedly don't care about otherwise. it's not mentioned anywhere that she must sing in japanese or english, namirin can perfectly sing in any languages she pleases. you're not her manager to dictate what she can and can't do

give her a moment to breathe, it's barely been a week. your pessimism is nauseating

The Anime avatar is singing in Japanese. This week has been a fucking shocker.

Apparently she has vocal nodules, like callous on your vocal cord. The doctors said that because her nodules are small enough, she didn't need any surgery, just medicine and rest are enough. I'm going to miss her baba voice

Vocal nodules can get worse over time though. . . I'm glad that it isn't a major issue at the moment. Marine, unfortunately, has a tendency to sing in ways that she finds difficult and fun rather than 'good.' She kills herself for entertainment when she sings.

Pretty much this - if someone is so desperate for an illusion of connection with other human being, it's probably better to hire a good escort. It is almost equally pathetic, but will cost less money and you will get some real action and if you are lucky, some interesting conversations.

Now, I personally have not had the experience in Japan, but a lot of guys in my team had elongated experiences in the house of the rising sun. . . the price of good escort is much more affordable than you would think. Affordable enough for the dregs like them. That a plane ticket factored into this equation is still less than some of these superchats is insane.

It's definitely interesting - there are maybe 20 people at any given time (or less) sharing clips and opinions, that's it. We are not insiders, our posts are not masterpieces of English literature, we are biased and can be baited easily. It's probably the number of lurkers - if there is something interesting, it will probably get mentioned here and this thread can be a functional vtubers news aggregate. I think the number of clicks is the reason why Josh has warmed up to this thread (I think): he waited with changes to Kiwi Farms till Coco's graduation stream ended, he even mentioned us in his statement about that emulator guy offing himself; I interpreted it more as a "look how welcoming and tolerant we are, even retarded children picking up dog poo from the ground can find their place here on Kiwi Farms" though (that's the most acceptance I have ever received whenever I was stupid enough to reveal my powerlevel outside groups of interest).

It is a rare group that self-regulates properly and manages to check itself when it starts to spiral. Hell, even our backslides are tame. The core idea, I think, is that we look at VTubing not as just a source of gratification, but as a profession. So we talk about roommates and influences in a sterile manner as opposed to the creeps and psychos lurking elsewhere. It isn't about 'feeling close to your oishi,' it is about understanding the medium from both ends.

Would be great if people didn't mention this faggot every page. Last time I check you idiots are the only ones promoting his shit by constantly talking about how much you hate him. Let it fade into obscurity and you wont have to care.

He is the quintessential example of why this site exists. And, quite frankly, the fact that we are more or less sure that Pippa

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Hey sweetheart, just want to say your content is gold and to keep up the good work. Be you.

watches the thread is reason enough to mention him. A nut like that needs some exposure and if the talents are forewarned of his antics because this thread is the #1 spot you hear of him, so be it.

 

[cypher3057]

Nabi’s got another one. On the tenshi to gremlin scale she seems to be leaning more towards tenshi. She did just debut.

If her debut hasn’t been posted then here it is

 

[Scuttle]

Update on CyberLive: Description has been updated to clarify that the donation rewards were one of a kind debut-only rewards and they've either been cashed in or the deadline has passed.

In other words, one lucky sperg gets to go on an e-date with her and that's all there will be. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the event but at the very least I take comfort knowing it's not going to be a 'thing' they do.

 

[Takodachi]

Update on CyberLive: Description has been updated to clarify that the donation rewards were one of a kind debut-only rewards and they've either been cashed in or the deadline has passed.

In other words, one lucky sperg gets to go on an e-date with her and that's all there will be. I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the event but at the very least I take comfort knowing it's not going to be a 'thing' they do.

that moment when a brand new vtuber out-thots the literal camwhore

 

[paule]

Since someone made an ass comparison here an animation from some time ago with more lore about Marine's rear.
Apparantly her butt works like a shock absorber, she wiggles like a penguin when she walks and she can't lie on her back. The Art is the cherry on the top

 

[Girlboy69]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the event but at the very least I take comfort knowing it's not going to be a 'thing' they do.

I don't think I could survive the cringe.

 

[Account]

In case anyone was wondering about how our retarded stepbrother /vt/ was doing, people were spamming the board to get the 6666666 GET for their oshis and the guy who ended up getting was someone asking a question in one of the generals.

Not the ideal situation but it's better than some tryhard getting it

 

[Just pretending]

So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

 

[Takodachi]

So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

you mean Yuni, or she has another account I'm not aware of?

 

[Scuttle]

So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

We must continue to give Pippa all the power imaginable because holy fuck burning bridges like that whilst part of a company that COULD theoretically do with latching onto Hololive's clout is unprecedented levels of based.

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

I don't remember anyone posting clips from this guy.
A dedicated kson clipper. Might wanna give him a sub.

He doesn't clip anything that would give disrespect to Kson though. He even encourages others to watch whenever kson is on stream, and then just clips what he feels are important, and have permission (?) to it.

ShabbySubz did a video compilation of Marine's saga with her throat here, with clips from her July5th and 10th stream. Figured it's worth a post:

TLDW: Don't worry, she's taking a break because management has finally put their foot down. She might stream here and there but if she does, it's because management's given an OK.

Since she's reiterated not too worry too much, we can take it easy now. Let's just take this as a well deserved break for her.

Can't wait to hear tales of the pirate booty again when she comes back.

 

[ButtermilkJesus]

So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

If true, fair criticism with Cover’s mismanagement, but that Nintendo comparison is a head-scratcher. Does she think these girls go though RnD and produced in a factory? If “the products are virtually identical,” that’s more on the talents having similar personalities since everyone pretty much breaks out of their character mold and settles into their own style months after debut. Which is why saying someone has no personality after 5 days of streaming is completely insane.

Also it’s been said here before, but saying Nintendo doesn’t innovate is asinine. They just have dated business practices but are pretty good at breaking the mold hardware-wise.

 

[augment]

When Subaru busted up her voice she too had to take a week and half break. She was on the verge of tears asking her viewers to not forget about her. I can only assume this is due to how Susantube's retarded algorithm works, by not constantly supplying a stream of (reviewable, lenghty) content, it just fucking ignores you on a whim.
Really struggling to understand how Marine genuinely thinks we can forget about her.

 

[Takodachi]

When Subaru busted up her voice she too had to take a week and half break. She was on the verge of tears asking her viewers to not forget about her. I can only assume this is due to how Susantube's retarded algorithm works, by not constantly supplying a stream of (reviewable, lenghty) content, it just fucking ignores you on a whim.
Really struggling to understand how Marine genuinely thinks we can forget about her.

Marine could do what Coco did during breaks, fuck around with the green screen at the office and post shorts, just enough to feed Susantube's draconian algorythm

 

[Scuttle]

If true, fair criticism with Cover’s mismanagement, but that Nintendo comparison is a head-scratcher. Does she think these girls go though RnD and produced in a factory? If “the products are virtually identical,” that’s more on the talents having similar personalities since everyone pretty much breaks out of their character mold and settles into their own style months after debut. Which is why saying someone has no personality after 5 days of streaming is completely insane.

Also it’s been said here before, but saying Nintendo doesn’t innovate is asinine. They just have dated business practices but are pretty good at breaking the mold hardware-wise.

The comparison is clearly coming from a Pokémon fan and not someone who has sat down and really thought about Nintendo's business practices and trailblazing ideas over the las 18 years, so it's better to think less of it and just let her vent. The meat and potatoes is what she thinks of Hololive, after all.

I'd also have to watch more Phase Connect to see what her idea of a V-Tuber unit of distinct personalities looks like, though I do agree that IRyS is a little weak in the personality category even if her singing is absolutely stellar.

That's its own can of worms, though, and unpacking the change in what a 'V-Singer' is since AZKi rejected her own graduation and moved towards acting like a Gen 0 member, along with the unprecedented success of HoloMyth rendering her an awkward wedge between them and the inevitable 2nd Gen irequures a lot more nuance than I think a Pippa Rant Analysis is probably worth.

Bottom line is that she's more than entitled to the belief that Cover absolutely fucked it with Coco and losing someone like her may very well be the first domino. I'm not gonna entirely disagree with that analysis either.

 

[X-avier cuck]

The comparison is clearly coming from a Pokémon fan and not someone who has sat down and really thought about Nintendo's business practices and trailblazing ideas over the las 18 years, so it's better to think less of it and just let her vent. The meat and potatoes is what she thinks of Hololive, after all.

I'd also have to watch more Phase Connect to see what her idea of a V-Tuber unit of distinct personalities looks like, though I do agree that IRyS is a little weak in the personality category even if her singing is absolutely stellar.

That's its own can of worms, though, and unpacking the change in what a 'V-Singer' is since AZKi rejected her own graduation and moved towards acting like a Gen 0 member, along with the unprecedented success of HoloMyth rendering her an awkward wedge between them and the inevitable 2nd Gen irequures a lot more nuance than I think a Pippa Rant Analysis is probably worth.

Bottom line is that she's more than entitled to the belief that Cover absolutely fucked it with Coco and losing someone like her may very well be the first domino. I'm not gonna entirely disagree with that analysis either.

I say even beyond Pokemon her critique is very valid (If this is true).
Beyond dated practices Nintendo comes off as very tone deaf and safe to the point that they're usually the last to do something and because their fans are so segregated from everybody else they treated like it's a new contraption that fell from the sky.
They also have a big emphasis on family-friendly content and keep the big three on a tight leash regardless of what critics say.
The company also has seniority with people because they were some of their first gaming memories and alot of this can be applied to cover.
I'm going to hold off until we see how generation two of the EN turns out before I make any further assertions though

 

[kadmckool]

So, Pippa has decided to use her alternate Twitch account to talk a little bit about hololive. She's extremely frustrated with Cover since Coco's graduation and spent good 5 minutes venting about how management's level of incompetence is just one step away from outright malevolent sabotage (she let out a loud, frustrated scream when the incident with antis getting promotion to mods was brought up). She compared Cover to Nintendo: a company that prioritizes safety above all else and as a result, releases products that are virtually identical to previous ones, because any innovation requires a risk they're not willing to take. She believes this will bite Cover's ass soon, because viewers are going to realize they're not gonna receive anything remotely new or original if things stay this way. IRyS is a perfect example; Pippa thinks she's basically a worse version of Ina but with zero personality and debuted at the beginning od July just to give the viewers something new to talk about.

Not gonna lie, listening to her comparing Cover and Nintendo made me think a bit and now I'm even more concerned, because if hololive really goes in that direction, then Haachama wilk probably the next one to quit.

Everything is correct, especially the Cover = Nintendo part, except IRyS has no personality. It’s over generalizing consider the IRyS had been around for a while. In term of personality, I’ll say IRyS is akin to that of Kagura Nana cute yet savage or a little bit tame Kagura Mea in term of lewd. She’s only start Vtubing recently plus her talk regarding the contrast between America and Japan was also interesting when she stream with static 2D image. Only time will tell but calling IRyS has no personality makes Pippa sounds like Hololive reject or sth.
Overall, I think IRyS will be like the EN counterpart of Marine. Most clippers did not do Marine any justice since they too zone in to her horny parts vs other life story conversations.

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

Just advance posting and even though I don't watch Apex streams much, Roboco is gonna play with Ame and TMT in a few hours. Incoming "warm-up" by Ame though.

 

[mandatorylurk]

That was a good collab with all the girls working through whatever language barriers and reading the room issues there are between USA/ID/KOR and a bunch of the drawings worked.

I think Pomu can grow into a good bridge between the different branches and be their Kiara or Coco.