Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

Stream comments:

Why does he keep pulling up the “cleavage area” of his dress? I feel like he’s nervous about his décolletage being exposed because there’s probably Kleenex in there or whatever. He seems to get it under control later but the first half hour he’s constantly tugging at it. I agree the shoulder things help hide his troon frame.

I wonder if the “icon” he’s teasing is Angela Davis? She’s very trans friendly and she’s technically a philosopher I believe. I haven’t seen her in media as of late though, I don’t know if she’s still active. If Contra can collaborate with Chomsky I guess it’s possible.

I see at 40:23 that Olly’s pretend romantic interest texts him: “I just got a nice message.” (He reads the message, which is, “how is the live stream going?”) Lol wow, what a “nice” message. 🙄 Lol then he does it again at 41:39! (Makes a big show of the fact that he got a text.).
Olly is really popular and gets
text messages from friends u guise!! It’s an actress thing, babes, you wouldn’t understand!

Jesus, yet a third instance at 42:58. Doesn’t say anything but looks at the phone and starts giggling. These text messages were interspersed with things he “kant” tell us yet - the book voiceover, the alleged move. And the almost move reveal was so fucking contrived,,,,he’s starting to say then pauses for dramatic effect. So phony. Followed by weird noises, lots of ‘sexy’ “So, yeaaaaaaaaaah” exclamations apropos of nothing, and his tongue protrusions. Creepy as fuck. 44:45: “2022 is going to be a bad year to be transphobic and own a television, cause I’m gonna be on it. Hahaha. I’m going to be EVERYWHERE!” Gee, “transphobic” Britain sounds horrible. Douche.

Several times he makes raspberry sounds with his mouth, like he’s seven. Seriously what the fuck is wrong with this guy?

Are all of these projects really so shrouded in secrecy? I’m sure some could be but it’s starting to seem like a tick of his. Tee hee hee, can’t tell you. So don’t bring it up, retard! I don’t know if I can finish this in one sitting. He’s so fucking obnoxious.

At 55:50 he reads the question about C0ntra, (to himself) then CLEARLY pretends yet again to get a text message. He mutters something indecipherable (cause he’s clearly uncomfortable with the Contra question), then when he looks back at the camera and says “don’t know what you are talking about there.” Sorry I’m being autistic but when you watch it you can see how disingenuous it is. He of course knows what’s being asked and he clearly acts nonchalant about it when he’s anything but. He uses the “text message” as a diversion cause he’s uncomfortable.

1:05:20 someone asks if he would consider doing a video on Indian philosophy. He says yes but his tongue thrusting is out of control. It’s so bad I’m surprised that even his brainwashed fans don’t gently ask, uh, why are you doing that??

In the last four minutes of the stream he talks about (basically) how contrived his speech at London Pride was. He says he deliberately opened with, “I’m not much of a speaker, im just an actress.” Because then when you nail your speech people will be blown away all the more. Jesus, the ego on this prick. He says he knew the other speeches would be “sad” and he wanted to do something different. He goes on a bizarre tangent about how trans people, black people, working class people, et. al. approach him and tell him that they are “humiliated.” He makes himself sound like Mother Trans-resa of Calcutta. Asshole. But anyway so he wanted the speech to start with a vulnerable half then switch in the second half to “power.” He feels his “performance” could have been better in capturing this switch.
 
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Why does he keep pulling up the “cleavage area” of his dress? I feel like he’s nervous about his décolletage being exposed because there’s probably Kleenex in there or whatever. He seems to get it under control later but the first half hour he’s constantly tugging at it. I agree the shoulder things help hide his troon frame.

At 55:50 he reads the question about C0ntra, (to himself) then CLEARLY pretends yet again to get a text message. He mutters something indecipherable (cause he’s clearly uncomfortable with the Contra question), then when he looks back at the camera and says “don’t know what you are talking about there.” Sorry I’m being autistic but when you watch it you can see how disingenuous it is. He of course knows what’s being asked and he clearly acts nonchalant about it when he’s anything but. He uses the “text message” as a diversion cause he’s uncomfortable.
I was going to mention he seemed uncomfortable in the dress but my post was already so long. He's constantly pulling at it and folds it in as he sits down, it wasn't necessary because it looked normal. His bra (?) seemed to be showing so maybe he wanted to cover up more to set a good example, being the most recognizable trans woman in the U.K. and all.

Yeah seeing the retards from 4chan harassing him on his streams and subredddit actually makes me feel bad for him. I don't blame him for being extremely uncomfortable, and honestly I don't get why Hontra hasn't told people to stop harassing Olly yet. I know it's just a small group of schizos and that they'll prob continue to be like "Abi has a gun to Natalie's head and is forcing her to say she's ok when she's not" but still, Nyk could at least attempt to help out the trans princess of terf island here. Was it just me or was Olly's energy off this stream? He either seemed sick/tired (and not in his uwu sleepy trans girl way) or a bit upset, he was sniffling a bit near the middle of the stream.
 
I feel like these (unlikely) sexual assault claims are just desserts for Olly. I agree with the poster who is skeptical of Contra’s claim, anyway. He just threw it out there to make a point and to deflect from his cancellation. Lindsay Ellis recently did something similar. Both Olly and Contra are “believe all women” types, no questions asked. So, me personally, I find it amusing to see their flimsy world views crash into a wall of reality. Ditto Contra being confronted with this oaf in a dress insisting that he’s a female. All their leftist machinations and ideological purity tests falling apart with the merest pushback against them. When believe all “women” includes sexually fetishistic men in dresses who have turned their kink into an identity, you’ve got yourself a big problem.

I do of course think sexual assault is a serious problem, but for people in these hyper-woke spheres it’s just another badge to collect in their LARP of Oppression Olympics. They weaponize it, cancel people over (claims of) it, use it as a cudgel against political opponents. I’m sure both Olly and Contra didn’t care/cheered it on when Brett Kavanaugh was smeared with unsubstantiated/highly dubious rumors of sexual assault. Now the shoe is on the other foot for poor Olly. Tough shit.

And also I think it’s amusing because Contra and Olly both role play as sophisticates who exude class and refinement. In reality they hobnob among incredibly damaged, sexually (and otherwise) degenerate people who are unscrupulous and mentally unstable. But none of that is suppose to come into play when we evaluate claims of sexual assault, according to people like them.

I think the humorous aspect of it is starting to wane as autists beat it into the ground but I don’t mind seeing Olly on the hot seat, experiencing firsthand how destructive and reckless his espoused worldview is.

PS Someone asked him in the stream where he bought that dress and he would only say, “the internet.” Because his insane fans will deem him cancelled for implying that you need to shop at certain stores or in a certain way to be truly trans. So we are supposed to listen to such barking mad people as that about their alleged identities and political views? You are judged by the company you keep and Olly is part of these disgusting freaks and their sick beliefs. Olly defends their delusions and participates in their insanity so I don’t feel sorry for him when some of it is directed at him (i.e. a dubious assault claim.)
 
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from 4chan. This blows up more and more.
 
Seems far more likely that Olly just got plain old friendzoned by Contra, even if they did bang a couple of times. Guys like Olly think a slap on the arse is BDSM, whereas Contra is more into opiate fuelled 12 hour mansion orgies (in Minecraft). Probably goes something like: Olly confesses his love, Contra freaks out. Olly continues to worship m'lady and Contra can't handle it - they agree to stop contact. Heartbroken and dejected Olly decides to be more sexual like his oneitis idol, but can't do it as a man without feeling rape-y (plus all the gym time) so he does the stunning and brave thing of transitioning, and in doing so receives all of the applause he never got on the stage.
I think it's something like this:

Olly and Contra genuinely liked each other - neither of them is a good enough actor to fake it for long.
Olly has been nudging towards transing for a while, as mentioned up thread. He tells Contra.
Contra can't deal with the guy she's fucking trooning out, takes a hard look at themself, and cuts contact with some excuse.

To me that fits the way they've both been speaking/behaving better.
 
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either PT completely lost it and started fighting all the nutjobs on 4chan or some hon poses as PT using all her signal words such as ‚libelous‘, ‚fair cop‘ etc. the third possibility would be that the ominous infertile one-x-chromosome-lady from the states returned to rescue PT from all the unfounded slander. lol idk what’s going on but it sure is entertaining 😁👌. i think the dumb rape rumors need to stop though. at least as long as there is zero evidence that it ever happened. where are the receipts?

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Why doesn't contra just spill the beans on who allegedly raped him?
And I don't think it is Oliver but the possibility is there.
Because Contra was most likely not raped. I wouldn't be surprised if it was an off comment about her legs looking nice or someone says that they can really see that her breast has grown.
 
Do you guys think Contra will ever talk about her assault? Not necessarily who did it, but what happened. I think that if she ever talks about it maybe it will give more clues as to who did it. I 100% doubt she'll ever outright name-drop whoever it was.
No, because then he won't be able to keep milking it for pity points. One way or the other, I don't give a fuck.
 
Olly once again complaining about how cis women can get hormones quickly but pornsick autogynephiles can't.
How do they get away with making such statements? Forgive my ignorance but aren’t a lot of “cis” women getting hormones post hysterectomy, or because their menopause is causing health/discomfort issues? Maybe vaginal dryness? All seems a far cry from wanting (essentially) fake boobs or softer skin or whatever the fuck. The entitlement and monomania of it is so galling. I know we are deep into clown world but how do people not shout troons down when they publicly compare their bizarre body modifications (to put it charitably) and cosmetic surgeries alongside legit health issues?

And back to contra’s allegation of sexual assault - if I recall correctly he said, “there is someone [big in leftist pilitics] who I absolutely could ‘me too.’ But I’m never gonna.”

Me personally I wouldn’t choose to reveal an assault I suffered by dangling the possibility that I could ‘me too’ them. Just sounds rather glib and focused on the wrong issue. “I was assaulted. I could report it and get them in a lot of trouble but I’m not gonna. Tee hee hee.” I know prosecuting sexual assault is very difficult so I’m not saying he’s wrong to not come forward or that he can’t mention it just because he’s decided not to pursue it. But again, the way he said it evokes (basically) name-dropping and attention seeking. I mean, tons of attention seeking women were dropping “me too” all over social media during that time. Perhaps Contra wanted to join in with all that.
 
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He's always used a plug-in that auto-deletes his tweets after a certain amount of time so there's no point in reading into the fact that his coming out tweet is deleted.

As for the rest, why would a random cis bi woman be on /tttt/ when that place is almost entirely misogynistic troons? Why is that where she would post her assault story? And to do so only after Olly trooned out and everyone on 4chan is making up stories about how Olly assaulted Nyk? Go on /tttt/ on any given day and you'll see stories about how Nyk eats neovagina hairballs and tampons and wears diapers. It's all "libelous nonsense" as snl825 put it,
do…..neovaginas spit out hair balls???????
 
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