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Dungeon & Dragon's New Drizzt Books Will Work to Combat the Drows' Racist Past​

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R.A. Salvatore bends the knee.
The racially coded history of the Drow as innately evil has long been outdated—and now the creator of one of their most famous kind is helping update it.

By James Whitbrook

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The people who make D&D now understand this. Last year, in the wake of a statement addressing the global outcry and response to the murder of George Floyd, Wizards of the Coast announced plans to make sweeping changes to the way racial traits worked in the current fifth edition of Dungeons & Dragons—years after homebrew developers and fans took the concept into their own hands—specifically highlighting the Drow and races like the Orcs as a part of character creation where the company had long failed to avoid playing into racially coded stereotypes. The promised changes to character creation arrived later in 2020 in the form of the sourcebook Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything, which provided D&D players with an alternate character creation process—designed to either replace or complement the original 5E system—that allowed players not only more choice in crafting their characters, but removed specific defining traits from each of D&D’s playable races that defined them from moral or physical standpoints.

But now the step is being explored beyond just mechanics, in the stories Dungeons & Dragons tells beyond the tabletop. Speaking to Polygon about his upcoming novel Starlight Enclave—the first in a new series called Way of the Drow—Drizzt’s creator R.A. Salvatore addressed how he’s changed as an author since creating the character, reflecting a desire to both acknowledge the mistakes made in the past with Drizzt’s Drow heritage and expand the Drow species beyond their original categorization as untrustworthy villains simply because of their race.

“I can’t tell you how many letters I’ve gotten over the years, from people who have said, ‘Thank you for Drizzt.’” Salvatore told Polygon. “‘I finally have someone who looks like me.’ On the one hand, you have that. But on the other hand, if the Drow are being portrayed as evil, that’s a trope that has to go away, be buried under the deepest pit, and never brought out again. I was unaware of that. I admit it. I was oblivious.”

“Nothing’s being dictated to me, I am not retrofitting or retconning the Drow. I am expanding the Drow... These aren’t game books, they’re novels,” Salvatore told Polygon. “Novels are supposed to reflect the time period they were written in. There’s no reason to [make any changes to past Drizzt books], because there’s nothing in my early books philosophically that’s different than who I am today. I’m just more aware of certain things in the books that became problematic. But philosophically, that’s who I am. That’s who I’ve always been. I just try to be better.”

Starlight Enclave will explore Drow society to build out two other factions of Drow previously unseen—first detailed by Wizards of the Coast earlier this year—beyond the Udadrow that Drizzt descends from. The Aevendrow in the north of Faerûn, for example, rejected the Spider Queen Lolth’s demonic teachings and corruptive influence embraced by the Udadrow, while the Lorendrow will be separated even further from either faction as druidic, jungle-dwelling elves who practice a symbiotic relationship with the natural world around them. But beyond these lore-based explorations, Salvatore hopes that the new series will show audiences that he stands with the moves to change the Drow—and that he as an author has changed as well.

“This is something I hope more younger people can understand,” Salvatore added. “You’re seeing all this stuff and it’s obvious to you. If you grew up in the ‘60s and ‘70s, it wouldn’t have been obvious. Some things are obvious, but it’s the subtle things that you learn about as you continue to grow and learn. And now, finally, we’re seeing it being played out there in the correct way with people saying, ‘This is bullshit.’ And I love it, and I feel like I’m growing.”

Starlight Enclave will release on August 3.
 

Dungeon & Dragon's New Drizzt Books Will Work to Combat the Drows' Racist Past​

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R.A. Salvatore bends the knee.

Unfortunately for them, no one in my groups is even considering abandoning all the shit that made the drow cool.

Get ready for all "villain" races to get turned into Proud and Noble misunderstood puppydogs. First they came for the orcs, now they're coming for the drow. So, what are the betting odds on the next race to be sanitized?
 
Unfortunately for them, no one in my groups is even considering abandoning all the shit that made the drow cool.

Get ready for all "villain" races to get turned into Proud and Noble misunderstood puppydogs. First they came for the orcs, now they're coming for the drow. So, what are the betting odds on the next race to be sanitized?
Goblins to get those shortstack coomerbucks, or undead.
 
Counterpoint: there are more shortstack fans than furries.
Can confirm, but trannies love kobolds for whatever dumb reason. Probably egg-related shit.

Also, give me my black-skinned murder-rape-slavery drow black. The switch to that weird purple was dumb and ugly (visually ugly even), and we need some proper fucking antagonists back. I was fucking joking years ago about a "Justice For Greedo" protest movement on Tatooine but Current Year might make that a reality.
 
Can confirm, but trannies love kobolds for whatever dumb reason. Probably egg-related shit.

Also, give me my black-skinned murder-rape-slavery drow black. The switch to that weird purple was dumb and ugly (visually ugly even), and we need some proper fucking antagonists back. I was fucking joking years ago about a "Justice For Greedo" protest movement on Tatooine but Current Year might make that a reality.
Rodian Lives Matter.
 
Can confirm, but trannies love kobolds for whatever dumb reason. Probably egg-related shit.

Also, give me my black-skinned murder-rape-slavery drow black. The switch to that weird purple was dumb and ugly (visually ugly even), and we need some proper fucking antagonists back. I was fucking joking years ago about a "Justice For Greedo" protest movement on Tatooine but Current Year might make that a reality.
If you DM a group who isn't into the change, you can try and fool them/convince them you are pulling heavily from the new material, and just when they think you are serious about it/trust whatever Drow character they have been dealing with, blam back stab. At least that is how I would handle it ( I don't DM though). But yeah, other than that type of scenario fuck it, Drow are assholes, and they should stick to being assholes.

Also hey I like Kobolds as well, but thats just because one day I wanna try making a Kobold character thats extremely racist towards gnomes and tries to kill one whenever he gets a chance. For Kurtulmak.
 
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Also hey I like Kobolds as well, but thats just because one day I wanna try making a Kobold character thats extremely racist towards gnomes and tries to kill one whenever he gets a chance. For Kurtulmak.
In my setting kobolds turned into quiet people after the war where Kurtulmak and a bunch of other gods got whacked. They're usually found by rivers, in small communities, or in iselas in cities where they do things like sewer maintenance, street sweeping, chimney sweeping, and other things.

Every once in a while the group will run into what they call "asshole kobolds" out in the wilderness where the kobolds either worship dragons or Kurtulmak "The Undying".
 
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5e Kobolds are dumb, with their stupid lizard-dog thing they are trying to do.

Dungeon & Dragon's New Drizzt Books Will Work to Combat the Drows' Racist Past​

TL;DR
R.A. Salvatore bends the knee.


Fucking shit. Well, nigga gots to get paid and whatever but *sigh* another name off the list

Also, how the shit do you have Jungle Drow? I mean, I don't know how the Drow could be racist given I don't know of any real human races that live underground and worship a spider goddess. But then you went and put them in the literal fucking jungle, holy hell, talk about about racist.


I always run the Drow as "Look, the underdark is an insanely hostile environment; if you don't eat rocks, you have to eat meat to survive. The Drow are they way they are because any drow that ISN'T a poison-obsessed sociopath trying to climb to the top to ensure only the fittest are leading society and breeding will be dead in short order.
The fact they ENJOY this lifestyle is why they are villians, except for the few outliers."
 
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“I can’t tell you how many letters I’ve gotten over the years, from people who have said, ‘Thank you for Drizzt.’” Salvatore told Polygon. “‘I finally have someone who looks like me.’ On the one hand, you have that. But on the other hand, if the Drow are being portrayed as evil, that’s a trope that has to go away, be buried under the deepest pit, and never brought out again. I was unaware of that. I admit it. I was oblivious.”
imagine not identifying with the "good" drow but the bad ones that just because they happen to have darker skin too
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I'd assume as a veteran writer you're smart enough to understand for someone to be "good" and the hero he has to fight against someone "bad", the worse the better. jungle drow drizzt would be fucking for boring - "jungle drow drizzt doesn't want to be a hippie, but his liberal and sexual progressive parents won't let him!".

Fucking shit. Well, nigga gots to get paid and whatever but *sigh* another name off the list
I really like that he shits this out now after wotc declared books not being canon, for now it's nothing more than semi-official fanfiction.
 
Unfortunately for them, no one in my groups is even considering abandoning all the shit that made the drow cool.

Get ready for all "villain" races to get turned into Proud and Noble misunderstood puppydogs. First they came for the orcs, now they're coming for the drow. So, what are the betting odds on the next race to be sanitized?
If feel the ancient oberynths are misunderstood they're clearly supposed to represent an irl group with obvious referances to irl cultres.
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very problematic especially considering it makes you mentally ill seeing one.
 

Dungeon & Dragon's New Drizzt Books Will Work to Combat the Drows' Racist Past​

TL;DR
R.A. Salvatore bends the knee.

I feel bad for Salvatore. Must suck to see decades of work getting binned and set ablaze because a few of mentally stunted weirdos who don't even read your books are having a temper tantrum on the Internet.
 
Really sucks since apparently Drizzt's old man is enough of a chad to make sure he's the one in charge of family affairs, despite being stuck in a literal wheelchair, probably as some sort of drow punishment. Also, the drow not being raging assholes ruins the whole point of Drizzt. "Yeah, fuck you you evil, spider-worshipping assholes, Imma head out and go kick some ass because you fuckers piss me off so badly I'd rather hang out with people likely to murder me in my sleep out of a sense of self-preservation. At least they'll have an actual fucking reason to try and do it, you cunts."
 
You know, now that I think of it, I'm developing the sneaking suspicion they're trying to pin this on non-existent "racial coding" (there are no coal-black, Asian-looking black people anywhere in the US or Africa) but their actual problem with the drow is that they're an oppressive matriarchal society. According to the woke, such a thing should not be possible. So if they change drow society to be all-accepting and wonderful and perfectly fine with males pretending to be females (or if they suddenly get retconned as always having had genderbending rituals), we'll know that's the case.
 
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