ANTIFA / Antifascist Action / Antifaschistische Aktion - The anti-fascist gang with fascist tendencies

I think they are older than Richard Spencer's tour. As well as having older antecedents, didn't they just evolve out of the Black Bloc? It's certainly the same assholes, same tactics, same uniforms, same claims that they are not an organization, same troon bullshit, same queer bullshit, same rhetoric.
They evolved from SHARPs. "Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice" were a gang of Jews and self-hating Whites who would beat up White punks.
 
A worker grunt worked so hard they keeled over and the others just moved their body out of the way for the poor bastard's replacement. Whether it's true or not there's no way in hell Antifag's fat asses lasted 5 minutes with this boycott. 🚬
So like Apple and Nike and other companies these morons worship. All they need to do is put up a tranny flag and make a donation to BLM and a couple tweets about whatever wokeshit of the day is trending, and it's all fine.
 
Joy Reid simping for Antifa...aka a bunch of white kids with mommy/daddy issues

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fun Fact...as someone who has a grandfather drafted straight out of high school and into WW2...most WW2 vets are dead.

Every single time these drooling simpleton imply that antifa stands for "anti-fascism" and that everyone should accept it at face value I'm always reminded of this:

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation. These contradictions are not accidental, nor do they result from ordinary hypocrisy: they are deliberate exercises in doublethink."
 
Joy Reid simping for Antifa...aka a bunch of white kids with mommy/daddy issues

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fun Fact...as someone who has a grandfather drafted straight out of high school and into WW2...most WW2 vets are dead.
Granted, I obviously have zero objections towards fascism, but this argument they make is so retarded. So if I create an organization to traffic sex slaves and hard drugs, but call it "anti-puppy rapists," does that mean everyone who opposes my organization is by default pro-puppy rape? That aside they completely ignore the fact that it is possible for someone to agree with someone's motivations, but not agree with their methods. For instance, I might back an organization that wants there to be laws put into place, which would restrict people from speaking loudly on cell phones while in public. I might not back that same organization if they start kidnapping people who did this and then posting ISIS-style execution videos of them online.
 
When did ANTIFA really start to become a thing?

I think it was after TDS exploded in 2016.
I'd say after the Seattle WTO riots in 1999 was when black bloc shit in the US really crystallized from the proto Antifa shit like the SHARPs that existed before. You had other leftist groups that would try their hand at street violence like the Weathermen or the Revcoms but I wouldn't really consider modern antifa to have the same lineage. Unbridled TDS after 2016 is what caused to explode into the popular consciousness.
 
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I'd say after the Seattle WTO riots in 1999 was when black bloc shit in the US really crystallized from the proto Antifa shit like the SHARPs that existed before. You had other leftist groups that would try their hand at street violence like the Weathermen or the Revcoms but I wouldn't really consider modern antifa to have the same lineage. Unbridled TDS after 2016 is what caused to explode into the popular consciousness.
A fair portion of their leaders were trained by ex-Weatherman or ex-communist professors like Bill Ayers, and some of the higher-ups in groups that fund riots were involved with the Weathermen. The treasurer of BLM is/was an elderly Jew who helped get funds for the Weather Underground and served time in jail for it. Her name is Susan Rosenberg. She got a 58 year sentence for bank robbery and terrorism that was eventually reduced.

It's a very incestuous relationship between leftist groups in the US.
 
helped get funds for the Weather Underground and served time in jail for it.
She was actually caught with 750lbs of explosives and a cache of automatic weapons while a member of ‘the May 19th Communist Organization’, whose members had bombed federal buildings and killed at least three people during armored car robberies. Her sentence was commuted to time served after sixteen years in jail, when Bill Clinton went on his last-day pardoning rampage (look up ‘pardongate’).
So yeah, the same Bill Clinton who signed the ‘Federal Assault Weapons Ban’ pardoned someone who was stockpiling ‘assault weapons’ for use in terrorist and criminal acts. Good one, Slick Willy.
EDIT: This is also the Bill Clinton under whose new presidency the attack on the Branch Davidians occurred at Waco… you know, the one where they attacked the compound because the Davidians were ‘hoarding assault weapons’ then justified it later by making accusations of child sexual abuse by David Koresh. So under his watch, 82 people were killed for suspected but unproven firearms violations and others provably involved in terrorism get pardoned…
 
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She was actually caught with 750lbs of explosives and a cache of automatic weapons while a member of ‘the May 19th Communist Organization’, whose members had bombed federal buildings and killed at least three people during armored car robberies. Her sentence was commuted to time served after sixteen years in jail, when Bill Clinton went on his last-day pardoning rampage (look up ‘pardongate’).
So yeah, the same Bill Clinton who signed the ‘Federal Assault Weapons Ban’ pardoned someone who was stockpiling ‘assault weapons’ for use in terrorist and criminal acts. Good one, Slick Willy.
EDIT: This is also the Bill Clinton under whose new presidency the attack on the Branch Davidians occurred at Waco… you know, the one where they attacked the compound because the Davidians were ‘hoarding assault weapons’ then justified it later by making accusations of child sexual abuse by David Koresh. So under his watch, 82 people were killed for suspected but unproven firearms violations and others provably involved in terrorism get pardoned…


this is one of the guys that was a fed soldier for Waco
 
Granted, I obviously have zero objections towards fascism, but this argument they make is so retarded. So if I create an organization to traffic sex slaves and hard drugs, but call it "anti-puppy rapists," does that mean everyone who opposes my organization is by default pro-puppy rape? That aside they completely ignore the fact that it is possible for someone to agree with someone's motivations, but not agree with their methods. For instance, I might back an organization that wants there to be laws put into place, which would restrict people from speaking loudly on cell phones while in public. I might not back that same organization if they start kidnapping people who did this and then posting ISIS-style execution videos of them online.
This is pretty much the logic that all of SocJus operates on.

We are doing X because Y.
If you object to X, then you are objecting to Y.

All you have to do is put a sufficiently sacrosanct value in Y, and and X becomes allowable.
 
This may have been said already in the past 500+ pages, but ANTIFA reminds me of those thugs in Italy under Mussolini, or the "Red Guards" during the "Cultural Revolution" in China. In other words, fascists.
You mean the people who dressed up in black to wreak havoc on the streets of Germany are similar to the people who dress in black and wreak havoc on the streets of Portland, San Francisco, and Seattle? Preposterous!
 
When did ANTIFA really start to become a thing?

I think it was after TDS exploded in 2016.
You can go all the way back when ANTIFA was a paramilitary wing of Communist Party of Germany (KPD) and fought against the SA in the streets.
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After this, you would see other groups take the title and in the USA, anti-racist groups like ARA, SHARPA and more radical groups like Weather Underground would be formed. After some time, the old guard would grow old and new recruits would have to take their spot. So, during somewhere around the 2000's, Antifa would be born from black bloc and old ARA & Weatherman members.
 
Communism can "work" on the micro level. Communes are a thing in this country. Why aren't these people a part of one? I suppose the tent cities they live in could be considered one.
Nah even the communes probably have the same conditions as a budget hotel in Burundi.
 
When did ANTIFA really start to become a thing?

I think it was after TDS exploded in 2016.

Antifa likes to claim direct descent from Weimar-era leftist militias but that claim is highly dubious at best. Honestly, I'd say the modern Antifa gangs are at best LARP'ing as KPD paramilitary thugs.

The modern Antifa movement has two distinct origins depending on which side of the Atlantic you're on.

In Europe, it got its start with the labor movements and unions in the 1960's and likely had backing from the Soviets. A lot of Antifa gangs were active in West Germany and Italy in the 1970's and they often actively collaborated with groups like the PLO and the JRA abroad.

In North America, it can pretty much be traced to the 1980's with the punk subculture. The hardcore punk scene in the Midwest and West Coast were hotbeds of midwit political spergs. The skinhead Neo-Nazis also got their start around this time and often in the very same scenes (in Britain, skinheads go back to the 1970's and tended to have fewer political spergs)

The ARA and the SHARP's (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) were the earliest well-documented Antifa punk gangs. Prior to 2017, most of the Antifa gangs in America were confined to the punk scene in a handful of deep blue cities.

The only major Antifa actions pre-2016 in my lifetime were black bloc attacks during the 1999 Seattle WTO riots and black bloc gangs in the West Coast during Occupy Wall Street.

IIRC, a lot of the black bloc action during OWS happened later in the movement's lifespan which lends credence to the theory that Woke Leftism was the result of megacorporations coopting Occupy to neutralize it.
 
The ARA and the SHARP's (Skinheads Against Racial Prejudice) were the earliest well-documented Antifa punk gangs. Prior to 2017, most of the Antifa gangs in America were confined to the punk scene in a handful of deep blue cities.
ARA were shockingly incompetent, capable of scoring an own goal under any circumstances. I'm almost sure this ended up entirely incorporated into current Antifa.
 
This really is the most retarded rebuttal to ANTIFA

Like how the fuck are people these stupid to think that when people talk about ANTIFA, they think they just hate those who fight against fascism rather than a gang of retarded wannabe revolutionaries who commit domestic terrorism

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The fact that people say this is a own is infuriating and I have to defend fucking Cheong and PJW on this for how retarded this counter argument is.
 
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