Megathread Jonathan Yaniv's disgusting hatchet vagina

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pr3nt177 said:
Swings and roundabouts...no dilation and it closes up.
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Baloney Face said:
So what is he complaining about in this particular instance?
Closing up or not closing up?
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He needs to dilate to keep the wound open yet he claims he can't dilate because of the pain/blood loss. He's blaming the clinic (imo) for not picking up on the hypergranulation sooner and that a random US doctor, to who he publicly tweeted a pic, picked up on it (going by the tweet dates and his ensuing medical jargon).

yaniv reckons, rightly or wrongly, that he wouldn't be having problems with it if he had been diagnosed/treated earlier...but he forgets to mention what the hell he's been ramming up there since the op.

He's half-heartedly taken responsibility for his "clit" doing a runner but that will no doubt change with time.
 
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Baloney Face said:
Wound dehiscence means a healing wound not closing up.

Under normal circumstances that would be a serious complication of surgery, but what pray tell is the point of dilating?
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The body treats it as an open wound and will continually try to seal it regardless of how well you maintain it.
It's a lifelong battle against the bodies natural healing abilities.

Same reason people have to take medications when they get a transplant. The body sees it as a foreign object and will try and remove it.

Dilating keeps it open as the body keeps trying to close it.
 
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If Kevin Gibes’ thread has taught me anything it’s that the wound dehiscence tends to happen around the “seam” where the flesh sock enters the body. Basically the seam pulls apart. Obviously that is not supposed to happen, but often does.

The dilation is intended to do something different, which is to keep the pelvic muscles apart in order to stop the neovag tunnel narrowing and eventually closing. Dilation is likely to irritate/worsen the dehiscence at the entrance, purely because of the pressure of forcing the rod past it, but it’s not intended to keep that wound open.

/endsperg
 
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Baloney Face said:
The more I learn about how MtF bottom surgery is supposed to work (never mind horror stories like Yaniv), the more creeped out I get.

Not just fun dress up like drag queens at all.
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They're all botched. All of them.

Question for the medfags:

What is the exact mechanism of dilation? Like what structures/tissues does it affect?

As I am conceptualizing it, the goal isn't to keep the skin from adhering to itself on the other side of the pocket. Like your toes don't grow together from touching each other all day.

And correct me if I am wrong but I don't think the skin can lose elasticity, or at least not on a 1-year timeline. Like if a man doesn't get a boner for a year, the skin doesn't shrink.

I suppose something could go wrong with the internal sutures and those could grow together, but that wouldn't require dilation unto eternity and dildo-fucking healing sutures sounds like a great way for them to not heal.

So it seems to me like the goal of dilation is to put pressure on inflammation in the muscles and surrounding tissues, and keep them from healing together at the top of the pocket. Which seems like a strange approach.

Is there anything else in medicine that takes this physical brute-force approach to inflammation? All the examples I can think of where the inflammation itself could be damaging, such as a snakebite, the goal seems to be to give the inflammation somewhere to "go" other than into crucial structures. But the structure here that you're trying to save is the same source of the inflammation to begin with.

Am I conceptualizing this wrong, or is dilation basically rolling a boulder uphill?

It also seems like a way to blame patients for shitty outcomes, but that's a rant for another time.
 
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KiwiFuzz said:
Schroedinger's amhole:

  • Perfect 12-year-old porn star coin slot pussy
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who would want to fuck a 12 year old looking coin slot porn vagina? did he actually said it was like a 12 year old pussy? If I was in canada I'd be getting the pitchforks right aboot now.
 
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KiwiFuzz said:
They're all botched. All of them.

Question for the medfags:

What is the exact mechanism of dilation? Like what structures/tissues does it affect?

As I am conceptualizing it, the goal isn't to keep the skin from adhering to itself on the other side of the pocket. Like your toes don't grow together from touching each other all day.

Is there anything else in medicine that takes this physical brute-force approach to inflammation? All the examples I can think of where the inflammation itself could be damaging, such as a snakebite, the goal seems to be to give the inflammation somewhere to "go" other than into crucial structures. But the structure here that you're trying to save is the same source of the inflammation to begin with.
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I'm not sure about the med details, but it's like stretching your earlobes, right? You're punching a wound into healthy tissue which naturally wants to close itself back up. Amholes do close and the tissue tries to repair itself, so it's not similar to toes which naturally are separated. Comparing dilating to a piercing, you need to constantly have your jewelry in or else the holes will close. Eventually you'll get some type of scarring that keeps some type of permanent hole but removing the jewelry will still cause the hole to shrink back as close to its natural state as it can unless the skin was overstretched. Similarly, amholes will close and shrink in depth and width if you don't dilate regularly. It's a wound. Dilating keeps the wound open. Dilating is like tapering your piercings imo.
 
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pedoguyguykrai said:
who would want to fuck a 12 year old looking coin slot porn vagina? did he actually said it was like a 12 year old pussy? If I was in canada I'd be getting the pitchforks right aboot now.
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You must be new here. Johnny's known fantasy kink is to help young girls experiencing their first period to insert tampons for the first time. I think something a little stronger than pitchforks might be needed. That's a Sterilize Everything With Napalm sort of depravity.
 
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Baloney Face said:
Maybe some of the ladies can help me out here.

Is that an ask mom question, or a read the package direction question?
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Everyone is different...some young kids may ask their pals, some just muddle along (embarrassment) with pack info, some approach their mums/aunts/female teachers etc. The one thing I have never heard of is a child asking a 400lb bloke in a frock and nylon wig.
 
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Might be time to dust off this anecdote from fast swimmer and all round Aussie rat bag Dawn Fraser, with which she often regaled fundraiser after dinner crowds. At one of her early swim meets she realized she had started to menstruate, and asked for help. One of the volunteers gave her a Tampax. These individual tampons were loaded in a sleeved cardboard tube so girls would not have to touch themselves when inserting them. Dawn thought she'd give it a go, and loaded up. She then walked out to the start of a race, as she said, feeling a bit awkward, got up on the block, bent over awaiting the starter's gun, and the lane judge behind her fell off her chair at the sight of the tampax and tube poking out of her vagina under the swimsuit. True story. Our Dawn's a fair dinkum racist Aussie and we're mostly proud of her. Maybe Yaniv was on the right track hanging around pools with young girls.
 
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KiwiFuzz said:
What is the exact mechanism of dilation?Like what structures/tissues does it affect?

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I hate that this is my first post.

Any disturbance of an incision increases the risk of dehiscence and infection. So, yes, conceptually dilation is in opposition to established post-op care instructions.

However, because of the internal structures manipulated it's necessary to maintain the opening. The male perineal musculature is different and therefore not built for an extra hole. With dilation you ensure the bulbospongiosus muscles remain separated to accomodate the neovaginal structure, in a similar way to how they operate in natal women. I tried to attach an image. I'm mobile so I'm sorry if it is gigantic - mods help plz.

Afaik skin is pretty happy to resume it's original position so I would imagine if the internal hole closes and the exterior opening retracts enough the skin would heal across the gap.

Also "brute force" on inflammation is not as uncommon as you might think. One thing that immediately comes to mind is liposuction - compression garments are worn to readhere the skin and to keep down inflammation and fluid collection.

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Guapmala said:
I hate that this is my first post.

Any disturbance of an incision increases the risk of dehiscence and infection. So, yes, conceptually dilation is in opposition to established post-op care instructions.

However, because of the internal structures manipulated it's necessary to maintain the opening. The male personal musculature is different and therefore not built for an extra hole. With dilation you ensure the bulbospongiosus muscles remain separated to accomodate the neovaginal structure, in a similar way to how they operate in natal women. I tried to attach an image. I'm mobile so I'm sorry if it is gigantic - mods help plz.

Afaik skin is pretty happy to resume it's original position so I would imagine if the internal hole closes and the exterior opening retracts enough the skin would heal across the gap.

Also "brute force" on inflammation is not as uncommon as you might think. One thing that immediately comes to mind is liposuction - compression garments are worn to readhere the skin and to keep down inflammation and fluid collection.

Ready for my puzzle pieces.
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This is fascinating. Somehow I've never seen this particular informative illustration before. I knew that the musculature of the pelvis between males and females was different, but the actual extent of it was unknown to me. The rigging, if you will, could almost belong to two different species of animal in how it differs. Looking at this I can't see how dilation and maintenance of an amhole could ever be anything but sheer agony for a troon.

For a split second I almost felt sorry for Jonny. Almost...
 
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