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Covid hysteria is not good for your health.....


.....so 40% of the population have successfully increased their chances of illness since we entered clownworld. 40 fucking percent!. Even taking into account that this figure might be twice as much as reality it is still a shocking number.

Well done Team GB.
 

This made me LOL

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A 1st year medical student is taught to spot hyperkalemia on an ECG trace. Shit a nursing student would be expected to recognize it.

His pinned tweet no less, holy shit

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A fucking hero lmao

The ego on him.

Unfortunately there are a metric ton of narcissistic weirdos in health care. A heavy dose of savior complex mixed with constantly needing ass pats. It didn't used to be like that but it sure as shit is now.

In summary no this dude's ICU is not being overwhelmed. 99% of his Covid patients are not unvaccinated. He's just parroting what he's seeing others post for the attention. No one will call him on it because twitter and also patient confidentiality.

Bear in mind for future reference Intensive Care Units ALWAYS run at 100% capacity. It's horrendously expensive to keep ICU beds open, leaving them empty almost never happens. Media whores claiming that an ICU operating as it should is a 'crisis' is fucking retarded.
 
Covid hysteria is not good for your health.....


.....so 40% of the population have successfully increased their chances of illness since we entered clownworld. 40 fucking percent!. Even taking into account that this figure might be twice as much as reality it is still a shocking number.

Well done Team GB.
I don't believe that, simply because it seems TOO LOW.

Americans on average gained nearly THIRTY pounds in COVID in one survey. That's over two stone or thirteen kilograms.

Selfreporteddata/10, and only 3000 sample size, but still.

Forty-two percent of U.S. adults said they gained more weight than they intended, and of those, the amount they reported gaining averaged 29 pounds. Ten percent said they gained more than 50 pounds. Weight gain that leads to obesity can put people at higher risk for serious illness from coronavirus.

 

Like, I don't know how many people are usually in intensive care, but when I see raw numbers like this:

According to Baptist Health, their hospitals have 170 COVID patients and 36 of those are in intensive care. To free up capacity, Officials said wait times vary at the hospital’s eight locations. Doctors are rescheduling some elective surgeries.

UF Health has 75 COVID patients, with 19 of those in the ICU.


Like, 55 people seems high, but not panic levels across two hospitals. But I also admit that I'm completely losing perspective with all the fake and real numbers being thrown around. Especially without more context: like if 50 of the 55 people are 60+ years old, then I still don't really care; I just hope they all recover.
Of the 75 patients in ICU how many are critically unwell? That's the only metric that counts.

Has the patient been transferred to the ICU as a precautionary measure to allow for closer monitoring because they have co-morbidities and are considered high risk?
How many of these ICU patients are sitting up in bed on low flow oxygen?
How many of these patients require intubation and are on ventilators?
How many are receiving non invasive ventilation (Bi-Pap)?

It's infuriating reading reports like this with no one asking basic questions about how sick the patients actually are and so how much real pressure is being placed on hospital critical care capacity.

The health care system coped fine last year. Even during the early part of the pandemic where everyone and his dog was being slapped on a ventilator, there was plenty of capacity and the system came nowhere near collapse.

I'm sick of reading this type of scaremongering bullshit.
 
I don't believe that, simply because it seems TOO LOW.

Americans on average gained nearly THIRTY pounds in COVID in one survey. That's over two stone or thirteen kilograms.

Selfreporteddata/10, and only 3000 sample size, but still.

Forty-two percent of U.S. adults said they gained more weight than they intended, and of those, the amount they reported gaining averaged 29 pounds. Ten percent said they gained more than 50 pounds. Weight gain that leads to obesity can put people at higher risk for serious illness from coronavirus.


Go Team USA!

There are ALOT of media stories flying about, presently, about health effects of this covid business. Without any effort you can find surveys of all sorts of things from weight gain to mental health through deaths via alcohol/drugs. I read something the other day about a huge increase in the number of kids in hospital with breathing problems/lung issues and NOT because of covid. It has been the lack of constant exposure to other goblins and the normal germs/viruses around us and kids are getting more ill than usual once they suddenly get exposed to it all.

I expect someone is modelling it right now, but it will be interesting to see how many chronic illnesses and deaths and financial ruin will be coming compared to what would have happened if we had just carried on as normal. No lockdowns, wear a mask or stay at home if YOU want to, business as usual and a good health push instead of encouraging wally world.

Just a what if..... but imagine instead of all those fucking cringe murals of stern faced multicultural nurses glaring at you over their useless surgical masks, on the high street, there were athletes and football players and big jars of VitD. Right from the fucking beginning. Murals of people hugging and playing with kids. Shit like that promoting health of body and mind. Maybe if this had been going on for decades we wouldn't even have had that many dead anyway. One thing is for sure; we will definitely find out in the next 20 years.
 
I don't believe that, simply because it seems TOO LOW.

Americans on average gained nearly THIRTY pounds in COVID in one survey. That's over two stone or thirteen kilograms.

Selfreporteddata/10, and only 3000 sample size, but still.

Forty-two percent of U.S. adults said they gained more weight than they intended, and of those, the amount they reported gaining averaged 29 pounds. Ten percent said they gained more than 50 pounds. Weight gain that leads to obesity can put people at higher risk for serious illness from coronavirus.

Good news! Beside making money from the vacciness you can sell a lot of diabetes and mental pills because you destroyed people's life for a year or two. Not to mention, I can't wait for them (if this thing will go on) to pathologize not caring about the coof. It is easily to slide from "these people are ignorant" to "these people are evil" ultimately ending at "these people are mentally ill and should be fixed".
 
Just a what if..... but imagine instead of all those fucking cringe murals of stern faced multicultural nurses glaring at you over their useless surgical masks, on the high street, there were athletes and football players and big jars of VitD. Right from the fucking beginning. Murals of people hugging and playing with kids. Shit like that promoting health of body and mind. Maybe if this had been going on for decades we wouldn't even have had that many dead anyway. One thing is for sure; we will definitely find out in the next 20 years.
I think the thing that infuriated me 2nd or 3rd most about this whole thing is that any sort of preventive measure was instantly declared an alt-right hoax because it "wasn't a cure." Even if nobody said it was a cure, that was the reasoning for labeling everything misinformation.

Vitamin D? Misinformation.
Hydroxychloroquine? Trump said it once so instant misinformation.
Ivermectin? Misinformation.
Herd immunity through exposure? Misinformation.
Anything other than stay home, eat yourself into obesity and get the shot? Misinformation.

People dying due to the lockdowns: obesity, inactivity, depression, suicide, unemployment, et cetera? Not taking COVID "seriously" enough.
 
Of the 75 patients in ICU how many are critically unwell? That's the only metric that counts.

Has the patient been transferred to the ICU as a precautionary measure to allow for closer monitoring because they have co-morbidities and are considered high risk?
How many of these ICU patients are sitting up in bed on low flow oxygen?
How many of these patients require intubation and are on ventilators?
How many are receiving non invasive ventilation (Bi-Pap)?

It's infuriating reading reports like this with no one asking basic questions about how sick the patients actually are and so how much real pressure is being placed on hospital critical care capacity.

The health care system coped fine last year. Even during the early part of the pandemic where everyone and his dog was being slapped on a ventilator, there was plenty of capacity and the system came nowhere near collapse.

I'm sick of reading this type of scaremongering bullshit.

Also; not sure how it works outside of the UK but ICU departments here are divided into sections. There are the critical beds in one open area and then wards attached to that critical area and all under the umbrella of the ICU department. In the less acute parts of the ICU you will find all sorts of conditions and states of recovery.
All of these patients will be going out of the ICU ward, at times, to get x-rays etc so at some times there may be fewer beds in the ICU.

What i would like to know is if bed counts are done by some bod who literally enters clownworld mode and counts physical beds in the ICU, or counts beds being used by ICU patients no matter where they are in the hospital?. Same applies if a bed is taken away to be repaired and briefly the unit goes from 90% full to 100% in a 10 bed unit.
 
According to the latest rules in Ireland, COVID will still get you if you're in a pub, unless there's no music in which case it's fine for the vaccinated but unvaxed have to stay outside and never inside except for gazebos which turn outside into inside so it's a big grey area.

This still makes more sense than last year, before vaccines, when anyone could go inside a pub, but only if you stayed for no longer than 105 minutes and only if you bought €9 worth of food at the same time, because COVID _hates_ slow, cheap eaters.

I think we're clown world champions.
 
According to the latest rules in Ireland, COVID will still get you if you're in a pub, unless there's no music in which case it's fine for the vaccinated but unvaxed have to stay outside and never inside except for gazebos which turn outside into inside so it's a big grey area.

This still makes more sense than last year, before vaccines, when anyone could go inside a pub, but only if you stayed for no longer than 105 minutes and only if you bought €9 worth of food at the same time, because COVID _hates_ slow, cheap eaters.

I think we're clown world champions.
Covid must be the pickiest virus ever. Like...
infest me fam...
"nah, your position is so uncouth".
 
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Ok, just when I think we've hit peak Clown World, I go to Yahoo's front page.

Virus is not root cause of surging U.S. infections

LOL. Yes, the anti-vaxxers are WORSE than the actual "deadly" virus now. Yes, blaming the virus for virus deaths will soon be mininformation.

The more contagious delta variant may be getting the blame, but fueling its rise is an older, more familiar foe: vaccine hesitancy and refusal, long pervasive in the United States. Were a wider swath of the population vaccinated, there would be no resurgence — of the delta variant, alpha variant or any other version of the coronavirus.

 
older, more familiar foe: vaccine hesitancy and refusal,
Actually no... I have never even heard of the term "vaccine hesitancy" until like last year.
Were a wider swath of the population vaccinated, there would be no resurgence — of the delta variant, alpha variant or any other version of the coronavirus.
Covid vaccine stops Viruses from breeding and mutating. Cool. I will buy that for a dollar!
 
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Ok, just when I think we've hit peak Clown World, I go to Yahoo's front page.

Virus is not root cause of surging U.S. infections

LOL. Yes, the anti-vaxxers are WORSE than the actual "deadly" virus now. Yes, blaming the virus for virus deaths will soon be mininformation.

The more contagious delta variant may be getting the blame, but fueling its rise is an older, more familiar foe: vaccine hesitancy and refusal, long pervasive in the United States. Were a wider swath of the population vaccinated, there would be no resurgence — of the delta variant, alpha variant or any other version of the coronavirus.

Read that headline out loud. "The virus is not to blame for the spread of the virus."

Coronachan is a good girl who dindu nuffin.
 
I don't believe that, simply because it seems TOO LOW.

Americans on average gained nearly THIRTY pounds in COVID in one survey. That's over two stone or thirteen kilograms.

Selfreporteddata/10, and only 3000 sample size, but still.

Forty-two percent of U.S. adults said they gained more weight than they intended, and of those, the amount they reported gaining averaged 29 pounds. Ten percent said they gained more than 50 pounds. Weight gain that leads to obesity can put people at higher risk for serious illness from coronavirus.

That's because you Americans still have way more sugar in your diet than we do.
 
So, one based 63 year old Siberian nurse was destroying vaccines for 2 months while marking doses as "received" in the vaccination registry (article in Russian, archive). Either a lucrative side business, or a hero's act, you decide. Sadly, she was caught, now she's facing misappropriation charges.

My Russian friends and older part of the family got vaccinated, but thankfully, at least those with plans to have kids have not. Funny that out there, they doubt Sputnik or EpiVac, but look at Moderna and Pfizer with hope that it would be better, haha.
 
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