Fat Acceptance Movement / Fat Girlcows

[Sparkling Yuzu]

This is why I wish this was taught in school (it isn’t in my country). Like teach kids about calorie counting and what a serving size looks like. Teach them in a way that isn’t obsessive but shows them how they can still enjoy eating crap with their friends and balance it out later. The HAES crowd would absolutely lose their shit though.

THEY'RE TEACHING RESTRICTIVE ED BEHAVIOR IN SCHOOLS!!!!!!!!!

Yes, there's something terribly incongruous about self-reporting versus reality for whatever reason (I'm sure for a variety of reasons). Even "smart" FAs who claim to eat normal, healthy portions show that's not true when they post their meals on social media. I've brought up Lesley Kinzel, an educated albeit extremely biased and pernicious OG Internet FA, an inordinate amount here, but she is one of the worst offenders. She absolutely eats 3000+ calories every day while maintaining the dieting is ineffective and impossible. The fact that she shows this food (massive restaurant meals usually accompanied by appetizers, extra sides, big desserts, full-sugar soda) and still pretends that only severe restriction/starvation would have any effect on her weight is alarming, if not insulting. And there's obviously no way in hell someone with the IQ of a Slaton can report accurately or understand what they're eating.

I found those tik toks of "what I eat in a day as a fat girl" really interesting. That was a lot of fast food!

 

[fishing bird]

I don't know if this information is already out there somewhere, but I've seen people speculating on Ash of the Fat Lip's weight before, so adding it just in case.

Out of morbid interest, I made an account on Feabie (which seems like a cross between Facebook for fat admirers and a regular dating site?) to see Ash's account there, and she lists her weight (as of 5 months ago) as 583 points. At 5' 7", that makes her BMI 92.


She also said in a comment that in her time making content for BigCuties, she's gained over 200 pounds.

 

[Logical Fallacies]

This is why I wish this was taught in school (it isn’t in my country). Like teach kids about calorie counting and what a serving size looks like. Teach them in a way that isn’t obsessive but shows them how they can still enjoy eating crap with their friends and balance it out later. The HAES crowd would absolutely lose their shit though.

Good luck with that. Humanity hasn't evolved far enough for kids to not want to go to McDonalds or make mature decisions about their food intake.

I want to ask how hard it can be to eat a healthy and balanced diet without the need to count calories, but then I remember that food habits are handed down from parents to children. If the parents eat shit the kids will eat shit too. Fat parents usually equal fat kid or a thin kid with a seriously disturbed relationship with food. My country does have a pretty good health education in school but fat kids are still going to be fat if the parents aren't taking responsibility about what their kids eat and make them get up from the couch from time to time.

 

[AbraCadaver]

So, in yet another display of hedonistic consumerism, April has bought Altra shoes after seeing them on a YTber that does ultra trails ? Whyyyy
Now, Altra shoes are a solid choice for thru hikes & running trail (at least from what I've heard - personally, Asics are bae), and their wide toe box is indeed unique, so I can see why April would be a sucker for that given her general width. But why the fuck would she buy trail shoes for walking 3 miles (allegedly) ?
She has Altra Lone Peaks that are priced at 140€, so about $165 (perhaps less, since clothing/shoes is generally cheaper in the US). Regardless, she still spent well over $100 on a pair of shoes that's way above her skill level.

Just looking at her husband and her side-by-side is hilarious. Her hubby, for all his lacklustre outward appearance, competes in Spartan Races, on top of being military. And yet he's out there wearing just regular clothes & Spartan Rd Pro Running shoes that somehow cost less than April's for his training runs, while she's decked out in overpriced "athletic" gear just to slowly waddle her way through a couple of miles max.

People like this LOVE to buy workout gear for workouts that never happen. It allows them to live the lifestyle fantasy of being fit, at least on the surface, but without all the messy exercise. It’s wish fulfillment consumerism. And it allows them to tell themselves that they’re totally getting serious about fitness now, you guys! Look at the new shoes they bought! Look at the new water bottle! They’re doing fitness PREP by buying stuff, which is basically part of working out, very important.

I think she also does what Chantal did…puts some big purchase or inconvenience in her way to “hold herself accountable.” Chantal sold her car, saying that being forced to walk everywhere would MAKE her get fit! She moved into a flat with stairs so she’d be FORCED to get exercise!

Instead, she just bought a new car and makes her flatmate go up and down the stairs to fetch her things all day.

I’m sure April told hubby that these new very expensive shoes would MAKE her walk more and thus she needs them.”If I spent this much on workout gear, I HAVE to work out and use it now, or I’ll be wasting it!”

Just like Chantal and her fridge full of veg and fruit…she HAS to eat it now, she spent money on it AND it’s the only food in the house! It’s brilliant!

Except she just orders takeaway instead and lets the healthy food rot. And April does a paltry number of slow miles in her new trainers, before they end up in the closet for the rest of forever, while she buys new gear and workout accessories because reasons. Spending the money first and then justifying it to yourself by saying the cost will hold you accountable NEVER works. You should start your fitness journey in the old clothes you have and some cheap trainers and when you hit some fitness milestones, reward yourself with a bit of new gear. Train your mind to be rewarded with fitness incentives and results, not junk food and “treats.”

Once you buy something, your indebtedness and gratitude of how expensive it was vanishes, because it’s your possession now and you swiftly take it for granted. Parents reward kids AFTER they clean their rooms, not before. Everyone knows if you give the kid the reward first, that room is never getting clean. Excuses will be made, delay tactics deployed.

Using “pre-fitness incentive” purchases never ever ever EVER works. But these gorls do it anyway, as a flimsy excuse to get that shopping dopamine hit and dress up in instagram for more arsepats and happy brain chemicals from the “YOU GOT THIS GIRL!!” comments. All the shallow psychological reward of fitness, none of the effort.

 

[NoReturn]

Your eyes do not deceive you. She made more than one of these:

glitterandlazers
Glitterandlazers · 11h ago
Speaking Truths: you can do whatever you dare to dream. Here’s to the dreamers, @sportsillustratedswim .
Gimme More - Britney Spears

 

[Captain Syrup]

My country does have a pretty good health education in school but fat kids are still going to be fat if the parents aren't taking responsibility about what their kids eat and make them get up from the couch from time to time.

The US resists teaching our kids about healthy eating. All those corn subsidies have to go someplace. (We've even begun exporting corn, along with our obesity rates, to other countries.)

But there is still this Protestant streak which won't go away so easily. So you'll often see Americans talking out both sides of their mouth.

She also said in a comment that in her time making content for BigCuties, she's gained over 200 pounds.

Keep in mind that these women lie about their weight all the time. Secondly, a few of thrm are just looking for a cash infusion to fund their WLS.

Very few women that size are willing to gain more; but they have to keep the illusion going.

 

[PurpleEater]

some HAES lulz from the socials:

Jesus Christ. of course you don't want to shame your kid for eating junk, but it's also fine to be fucking honest with them so they know when enough is enough. junk food also makes you FEEL bad if you have too much of it. kids are sensitive to food especially. this looks like some crap one of our cows would share to justify their own overeating around the kids.

all these HAES/BoPo girls are just carbon copies of each other. big, smiling, overly energetic photos and captions screaming LOOK AT HOW HAPPY I AM!!!!! I TOO CAN GO OUTSIDE! I LOVE THE AIR! THE SUN! WEEEEEEEEEeEEeee!!! GIMME ASSPATS!

 

[Captain Syrup]

Lizzo getting weight loss surgery would be career suicide considering being fat is her only real hook.

Nobody "crash-diets" anymore. Rebel Wilson did it gradually, so as not to alienate her existing fanbase.

I got hella respect for Jennifer Hudson's lap band surgery "unrelated surgery" and 80 lb loss, but her boobs looked really weird afterward (until she got implants).

Nia Vardalos (My Big Fat Greek Wedding) dropped all that weight overnight. Thus, she killed her career stone dead. Also, she looks like she's trying to sell me "luxury" real estate.

 

[GenociderSyo]

Might find new IGs and lolcows here. Most seem to be in the fatgirlflow/ash circle of people.

Spoiler: Article Summary

One of the best, tried-and-true methods of developing a healthy and positive body image is to get used to seeing all kinds of bodies — and the best way to do that is on social media.

Curating your media sources and social media feeds to eliminate bad body image influences and include more diverse bodies is one of the fastest ways to build your self-esteem.

For fat and very fat people, though, it can be challenging to find bodies like ours on social media. Not only are people in very large bodies less likely to want to show those bodies regularly online — given that fat people are constantly harassed, trolled and doxxed for speaking up — even the very algorithms that run social media sites display anti-fat bias.

That means that those of us who are significantly fat can have trouble finding bodies like ours, but no longer.

Here are more than 40 Instagram accounts of fat, very fat and superfat people to follow. This list runs the gamut, from famous activists and influencers to people just living their lives. Some of these folks may identify as fat, very fat, largefat, superfat, infinifat or none of the above.

It’s important to remember that every single person on this list is a full human being with their own priorities, rights, preferences and choices. They don’t exist purely to inspire or be role models, and they’re definitely not here to serve as trauma porn or to make people who are thinner than they are feel better about their relatively-smaller bodies.

(That means that if you catch yourself thinking, “At least I’m not THAT FAT,” you probably need to take a step waaaaay back until you can view and interact with very fat people as people, not objects.)

It’s also important to understand that none of these folks owe you anything. While they may offer education or wisdom on their social media accounts, their lives aren’t necessarily an open book. Don’t pry, ask them weird questions or demand that they educate you.

And if you find the work of someone who’s listed here important to you, find a way to support them! Like, share and comment on their posts, subscribe to their Patreons, buy their products or services, or contribute to their Paypal, Venmo or Cashapp.

Spoiler: Accounts

Left pic in all accounts will be their chosen advertisement image for that person and the right pic will be what i find in their IG that amuses me. Gotta have some fun here this is 40 plus fat entitlement whore accounts!

@adriennebennett
"Adrienne is a video content creator, writer, speaker, and podcast host and above all, a Black woman in a larger body who actually represents the community she serves. Adrienne uses social media as a platform to create visual content that allows her to take back ownership of her body and restore the narrative of how it is portrayed in the media."

This person does hotel reviews where she books rooms and sees if shes so fat things don't work. She also randomly rips her top off so shes only in a bra in public and uses the tag "No More Hiding"

@artists_ali
"Twitch Affiliate🕹She/Her Demigirl Fat Activist Bisexual Queer"

@iamannachapman
"Anna is a fat creator, extended plus fit model + strategist, brand strategist, podcast guide and accessible yoga teacher. Size inclusion work is rooted in care. Anna strategizes for the humans who need to be served. Anna believes radical thinking starts at the root and breeds innovation."

@fatlip.ash
"Ash is a podcast-obsessed indignant fat person, and eventually it was just silly *not* to bring everything she has to say about fat life to the medium of podcasting. She is 500+ pounds of skepticism and CocaCola. She loves cats, art, and Canadians."

@yrfatfriend
"Your Fat Friend writes about the social realities of life as a very fat person. Her work has been translated into 19 languages and covered around the world. She writes about health, weight stigma, and fatness."

This one wants to be "anonymous." She mainly only puts up quotes by others and such.

@afattyfox
"Radical softness My personal sanctuary – @garrettwaded Faux fur ears shop – @fatfoxfurs She/her 100% baby 9w8"

This one might have a furry ADBL arc....

@yourfavfatbabe
"️ ️ ️Fat fashion, makeup, lifestyle, and skincare BARB Have a bf, I do it for the girls & the gays that’s it"

@gothiccka
"The Divine Feminine—Goddess in the Flessshhhh ⛓🕯 Yaqui & Maya, indigenous proud "

@fatgirlflow
"Corrisa is a 34 year old happy fatty from the Midwest, USA. Over the last few years Corrisa has been on a pretty thrilling journey to unlearn a lot of bullshit that society has taught her about her body and how she should feel about it. The journey isn’t over, and it turns out she learns more about herself and her values every day… so she’s decided to share all of that with you!"

@a_romantic_tale
"A plus-size woman posting her journey of challenging body norms and encouraging women of all shapes and sizes that everyone is beautiful."

That is her 4 year old.

@iamdaniadriana
"Dani Adriana is a 28-year-old fat activist and lived experience peer support advocate from Brisbane Queensland, Australia. From a young age, Danielle suffered through eating disorders, excessive exercise addictions, depression, horrendous body image and anxiety. Her content initially started on Instagram in 2013 during her initial stages of eating disorder recovery. She created a supportive community in response to the easily accessible pro-eating disorder content found online. Since 2013 Dani has expanded her content online to include magical things like fat activism, mental health awareness, self-care and body positivity. Dani also creates, facilitates and holds workshops worldwide around body image, peer support and community connection. "

@_daniellemcallister
"Danielle is a Youtuber, maker, and Shopify Expert. Her content centres around plus size fashion, inclusivity and giving you a behind the scenes look at her business. Danielle started her Youtube channel 5 years ago by teaching herself how to film and edit videos, now it’s grown to over twenty thousand subscribers and three million + views. "

@drnelsonnd
"A naturopathic doctor in Portland, OR practicing from a Health at Every Size perspective. DeAun believes health looks different for each of us and we all come to it via different paths. While we have control of some aspects of our health, there are things that affect our health over which we have little to no control. It is her goal to help her patients mitigate the things we do not have control over as much as possible and highlight each person’s individual strengths and abilities."

A Doctor..."Doctorate of Naturopathic Medicine from National University of Natural Medicine (formerly National College of Natural Medicine)." Oh yes a doctor ha!

More tomorrow.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

People like this LOVE to buy workout gear for workouts that never happen. It allows them to live the lifestyle fantasy of being fit, at least on the surface, but without all the messy exercise. It’s wish fulfillment consumerism. And it allows them to tell themselves that they’re totally getting serious about fitness now, you guys! Look at the new shoes they bought! Look at the new water bottle! They’re doing fitness PREP by buying stuff, which is basically part of working out, very important.

I think she also does what Chantal did…puts some big purchase or inconvenience in her way to “hold herself accountable.” Chantal sold her car, saying that being forced to walk everywhere would MAKE her get fit! She moved into a flat with stairs so she’d be FORCED to get exercise!

Instead, she just bought a new car and makes her flatmate go up and down the stairs to fetch her things all day.

I’m sure April told hubby that these new very expensive shoes would MAKE her walk more and thus she needs them.”If I spent this much on workout gear, I HAVE to work out and use it now, or I’ll be wasting it!”

Just like Chantal and her fridge full of veg and fruit…she HAS to eat it now, she spent money on it AND it’s the only food in the house! It’s brilliant!

Except she just orders takeaway instead and lets the healthy food rot. And April does a paltry number of slow miles in her new trainers, before they end up in the closet for the rest of forever, while she buys new gear and workout accessories because reasons. Spending the money first and then justifying it to yourself by saying the cost will hold you accountable NEVER works. You should start your fitness journey in the old clothes you have and some cheap trainers and when you hit some fitness milestones, reward yourself with a bit of new gear. Train your mind to be rewarded with fitness incentives and results, not junk food and “treats.”

Once you buy something, your indebtedness and gratitude of how expensive it was vanishes, because it’s your possession now and you swiftly take it for granted. Parents reward kids AFTER they clean their rooms, not before. Everyone knows if you give the kid the reward first, that room is never getting clean. Excuses will be made, delay tactics deployed.

Using “pre-fitness incentive” purchases never ever ever EVER works. But these gorls do it anyway, as a flimsy excuse to get that shopping dopamine hit and dress up in instagram for more arsepats and happy brain chemicals from the “YOU GOT THIS GIRL!!” comments. All the shallow psychological reward of fitness, none of the effort.

Fat people are shallow consoomers to the core. I work out in ratty old t shirts and cheapish leggings because I don't want to blow money on expensive clothing that's going to get covered in sweat and worn out from actual movement. Working out isn't supposed to look cute or attractive while you're doing it, it's first and foremost about busting ass. Worry about being cute later. It must be a special kind of hell to be both obese and obsessed with appearances/image to the point where you buy pricey fitness gear just to show off online. And the dopamine hit from a nice hot shower when you're all sweaty after cardio is a million times stronger than posting dumb shit on Instagram.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Might find new IGs and lolcows here. Most seem to be in the fatgirlflow/ash circle of people.

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Spoiler: Article Summary

One of the best, tried-and-true methods of developing a healthy and positive body image is to get used to seeing all kinds of bodies — and the best way to do that is on social media.

Curating your media sources and social media feeds to eliminate bad body image influences and include more diverse bodies is one of the fastest ways to build your self-esteem.

For fat and very fat people, though, it can be challenging to find bodies like ours on social media. Not only are people in very large bodies less likely to want to show those bodies regularly online — given that fat people are constantly harassed, trolled and doxxed for speaking up — even the very algorithms that run social media sites display anti-fat bias.

That means that those of us who are significantly fat can have trouble finding bodies like ours, but no longer.

Here are more than 40 Instagram accounts of fat, very fat and superfat people to follow. This list runs the gamut, from famous activists and influencers to people just living their lives. Some of these folks may identify as fat, very fat, largefat, superfat, infinifat or none of the above.

It’s important to remember that every single person on this list is a full human being with their own priorities, rights, preferences and choices. They don’t exist purely to inspire or be role models, and they’re definitely not here to serve as trauma porn or to make people who are thinner than they are feel better about their relatively-smaller bodies.

(That means that if you catch yourself thinking, “At least I’m not THAT FAT,” you probably need to take a step waaaaay back until you can view and interact with very fat people as people, not objects.)

It’s also important to understand that none of these folks owe you anything. While they may offer education or wisdom on their social media accounts, their lives aren’t necessarily an open book. Don’t pry, ask them weird questions or demand that they educate you.

And if you find the work of someone who’s listed here important to you, find a way to support them! Like, share and comment on their posts, subscribe to their Patreons, buy their products or services, or contribute to their Paypal, Venmo or Cashapp.

Spoiler: Accounts

Left pic in all accounts will be their chosen advertisement image for that person and the right pic will be what i find in their IG that amuses me. Gotta have some fun here this is 40 plus fat entitlement whore accounts!

@adriennebennett
"Adrienne is a video content creator, writer, speaker, and podcast host and above all, a Black woman in a larger body who actually represents the community she serves. Adrienne uses social media as a platform to create visual content that allows her to take back ownership of her body and restore the narrative of how it is portrayed in the media."
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This person does hotel reviews where she books rooms and sees if shes so fat things don't work. She also randomly rips her top off so shes only in a bra in public and uses the tag "No More Hiding"

@artists_ali
"Twitch Affiliate🕹She/Her Demigirl Fat Activist Bisexual Queer"
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@iamannachapman
"Anna is a fat creator, extended plus fit model + strategist, brand strategist, podcast guide and accessible yoga teacher. Size inclusion work is rooted in care. Anna strategizes for the humans who need to be served. Anna believes radical thinking starts at the root and breeds innovation."
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@fatlip.ash
"Ash is a podcast-obsessed indignant fat person, and eventually it was just silly *not* to bring everything she has to say about fat life to the medium of podcasting. She is 500+ pounds of skepticism and CocaCola. She loves cats, art, and Canadians."
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@yrfatfriend
"Your Fat Friend writes about the social realities of life as a very fat person. Her work has been translated into 19 languages and covered around the world. She writes about health, weight stigma, and fatness."
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This one wants to be "anonymous." She mainly only puts up quotes by others and such.

@afattyfox
"Radical softness My personal sanctuary – @garrettwaded Faux fur ears shop – @fatfoxfurs She/her 100% baby 9w8"
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This one might have a furry ADBL arc....

@yourfavfatbabe
"️ ️ ️Fat fashion, makeup, lifestyle, and skincare BARB Have a bf, I do it for the girls & the gays that’s it"
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@gothiccka
"The Divine Feminine—Goddess in the Flessshhhh ⛓🕯 Yaqui & Maya, indigenous proud "
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@fatgirlflow
"Corrisa is a 34 year old happy fatty from the Midwest, USA. Over the last few years Corrisa has been on a pretty thrilling journey to unlearn a lot of bullshit that society has taught her about her body and how she should feel about it. The journey isn’t over, and it turns out she learns more about herself and her values every day… so she’s decided to share all of that with you!"
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@a_romantic_tale
"A plus-size woman posting her journey of challenging body norms and encouraging women of all shapes and sizes that everyone is beautiful."
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That is her 4 year old.

@iamdaniadriana
"Dani Adriana is a 28-year-old fat activist and lived experience peer support advocate from Brisbane Queensland, Australia. From a young age, Danielle suffered through eating disorders, excessive exercise addictions, depression, horrendous body image and anxiety. Her content initially started on Instagram in 2013 during her initial stages of eating disorder recovery. She created a supportive community in response to the easily accessible pro-eating disorder content found online. Since 2013 Dani has expanded her content online to include magical things like fat activism, mental health awareness, self-care and body positivity. Dani also creates, facilitates and holds workshops worldwide around body image, peer support and community connection. "
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@_daniellemcallister
"Danielle is a Youtuber, maker, and Shopify Expert. Her content centres around plus size fashion, inclusivity and giving you a behind the scenes look at her business. Danielle started her Youtube channel 5 years ago by teaching herself how to film and edit videos, now it’s grown to over twenty thousand subscribers and three million + views. "
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@drnelsonnd
"A naturopathic doctor in Portland, OR practicing from a Health at Every Size perspective. DeAun believes health looks different for each of us and we all come to it via different paths. While we have control of some aspects of our health, there are things that affect our health over which we have little to no control. It is her goal to help her patients mitigate the things we do not have control over as much as possible and highlight each person’s individual strengths and abilities."
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A Doctor..."Doctorate of Naturopathic Medicine from National University of Natural Medicine (formerly National College of Natural Medicine)." Oh yes a doctor ha!

More tomorrow.

Ok wait hang on a tic:

“Spoiler: Article Summary
One of the best, tried-and-true methods of developing a healthy and positive body image is to get used to seeing all kinds of bodies — and the best way to do that is on social media.”

THE BEST WAY TO DEVELOP A HEALTHY BODY IMAGE IS TO LOOK AT OTHER PEOPLE’S SOCIAL MEDIA.

I FUCKING CAN’T


MY SIDES

NOBODY USES FILTERS ON SOCIAL MEDIA DAWG, IT’S ALL 100% FACTUAL, NOBODY MAKES AN EFFORT TO POST THE MOST FLATTERING VERSION OF THEMSELVES

(For the record, every fuckinn study out there about social media agrees that scrolling through social media posts of others makes you feel slightly worse about yourself.)

 

[Azovka]

I tried, my friends. I couldn't make it. I only got about 10 minutes in.
If anyone wants to start after that point, all you'd miss is a cringey intro, bad sound editing, and an attempt to introduce their "guest". It's a bad sign when one of the "co-hosts" is introduced as an "and sometimes".

I hear that. Her last one was 2 hrs long and I couldn't get past the first hour. It's excruciating. Lol

Well my friends, I took the bullet.

The guest on today's podcast is Simply Mander - Amanda, a crossfitter. April says "she's the first person who doesn't know me, has never interacted with me or my channel", which struck me as a bit weird given that her audience isn't that big to begin with. Amanda works for a nutrition company and her husband owns a gym.

April starts off strong after a cringy "radio-style" announcement, and shills Built Bars. She looks very passionate when talking about all the different flavours. Guess we know what she's binging.

Onto the main event - Amanda asks about April and Jenna's relationship. Turns out, they met at a friend of their husbands' Superbowl party. April says "I didn't expect Jenna to love working out so much", which is kind of funny coming from her. The guest doesn't seem to care at all about their stories. She just stares blankly and periodically says "okay, okay, omg wow" in that super fake tone.

Amanda then talks about her journey. She started crossfit in 2014 because she felt weak and small, and wanted to be strong "like the girls from Tumblr". It took her three times to even go to the gym because she was intimidated by jacked gym bros doing kettle bell carries in the parking lot. When she finally made it out of her car, she got private sessions with an instructor "when there was no one else around" before signing up for beginner crossfit classes because she was scared of people judging her.

It's pretty telling that April and her share the same anxiety about "gym intimidation" when in reality nobody cares about them, and if anything people are usually supportive and willing to help. I've noticed it in a lot of self-obsessed girls - they'll keep stressing about "omg what will those gym bros think of me. Am I sweaty? omg, omg I must be disgusting to look at", when literally no one gives a fuck. As other posters mentioned, if you have time to judge others at the gym, you ain't working hard enough.

For the recovery after working out, Amanda talks about the importance of sleep and eating enough (April's probably going to take it as a cue to binge). Nothing she says is really mind-blowing or new.

Amanda did an Undergrad in Nutritional Science. She is a "holistic nutritional therapy practitioner", not a registered nutritionist. She says she decided against going for registered dietician because the clinical scientific approach is "very old school". She's been coaching people for seven years. She hates "diet culture" and says the diet & fitness industries are the most frustrating out there.

April says she's terrible at tracking food. At some point, she had apparently gone to a bariatric centre, got put on a diet, and lost a lot of weight. It was most likely before 2014, prior to her marriage, since she mentions exercising 3 to 5 hours a day and hiking on weekends to keep the weight off. She says she's facing criticism for going slow on her weight loss journey.

Amanda complains about paleo diets demonising processed foods, and diets in general. She says everything is good in moderation, and that "keto" has immediate results because water molecules attach themselves to carbohydrates, so cutting carbs will immediately reduce your bloating & swelling, same as with sodium. There's no reason to do diets unless you have a medical condition.

Next, April starts parroting HAES talking points. "When I go to the doctor and my foot hurts, he doesn't automatically have my whole medical history and health. And if he says my foot is fine, but I know it hurts, I need a second opinion." (I don't remember in what context she says that, and I cba going back to listen to it again).

Regarding the "finding your maintenance number" part, I fazed out because it was boring, and she talks about Total Daily Expenditure (TDE), and finding out the Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR), which is like how much energy (calories) you burn per day without doing anything at all. Amanda also admits she's not qualified to treat people with eating disorders.
{If you're actually interested in TDE, BMR etc. I recommend reading Part One of Why We Eat (Too Much), New Science of the Appetite. It's a fairly interesting book by a bariatric surgeon, and part one is just your beginner's guide to metabolism. (The rest of the book is duller.}

Somehow, while I was writing that, the podcast changed from metabolism talk to the heart-worm treatment for Amanda's dog. And from that, they went on a "depression & anxiety" tangent. Amanda says she was sharing posts about her mental health on Tumblr, and how it helped her realise that she wasn't the only one feeling that way. She says her best friend ("literally my other half") is subscribed to April's channel.

Then, April recycles her previous videos by talking about pausing her weight loss, but not "staying there". It's almost sentence-by-sentence the shit she said in her videos about her plateau. That's when I tuned out again because that mental health talk was boring af and nothing we haven't heard before in April's content.

To end the podcast, Amanda says you have to work for the person you are now, not the person you will / could be in the future. It reminded me of Terry Pratchett's Night Watch - "just do the work in front of you", and all that jazz.

Not sure why Jenna was there. She didn't participate and looked distracted for most of the podcast.

You should start your fitness journey in the old clothes you have and some cheap trainers and when you hit some fitness milestones, reward yourself with a bit of new gear. Train your mind to be rewarded with fitness incentives and results, not junk food and “treats.”

This. I cannot emphasise how important this mindset is. PL : I tried telling it to my friends, but consumerism prevailed. One of them spent over 1k€ on Gym Shark & LuluLemon gear after watching YT hauls (which is kind of funny, because I had initially recommended Natacha Oceane's channel to her for workouts not "style"), and got her mom to invest in her 800€ home elliptical trainer, and now we're over one year into the pandemic, and she's packed on weight (and not muscles).

Fat people are shallow consoomers to the core. I work out in ratty old t shirts and cheapish leggings because I don't want to blow money on expensive clothing that's going to get covered in sweat and worn out from actual movement. Working out isn't supposed to look cute or attractive while you're doing it, it's first and foremost about busting ass. Worry about being cute later. It must be a special kind of hell to be both obese and obsessed with appearances/image to the point where you buy pricey fitness gear just to show off online. And the dopamine hit from a nice hot shower when you're all sweaty after cardio is a million times stronger than posting dumb shit on Instagram.

Tbf the only thing I'd invest in from the start are decent shoes, and only if you're actually running (by "you", I mean in general, not you as a poster specifically). You don't need that to go do half an hour on the elliptical, just like you don't need weightlifting shoes for 10kg barbell deadlifts, or biking shoes to do a spinning class. If you plan on running however, especially on asphalt / concrete, I would get running shoes with some cushioning. But those can be found cheaply. Hell, when I started, I got some Asics Windhawks for 28€ at a Decathlon clearance.
Clothing though? Lmao who cares.

 

[NoReturn]

Good lord. Thanks for wading though all that.

She says she decided against going for registered dietician because the clinical scientific approach is "very old school".

Oh wow.

Somehow, while I was writing that, the podcast changed from metabolism talk to the heart-worm treatment for Amanda's dog.

 

[Fliddaroonie]

RE: kids and diet: it's not hard. NEVER give them sugar AT ALL in the first 24 months at all. AT ALL. Not even fruit, not even "good" sugar. NONE.


And never, ever, EVER use food as a reward. Don't bother with dessert, never use food as a treat, and if you're a member of the clean your plate club, get some fucking therapy before having kids.


Set meal times only, know that going hungry is not gonna kill them, but always have access to water, and milk too.

RE Beckah: Goddamn her BF is a fucking cuck.

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

Tbf the only thing I'd invest in from the start are decent shoes, and only if you're actually running (by "you", I mean in general, not you as a poster specifically). You don't need that to go do half an hour on the elliptical, just like you don't need weightlifting shoes for 10kg barbell deadlifts, or biking shoes to do a spinning class. If you plan on running however, especially on asphalt / concrete, I would get running shoes with some cushioning. But those can be found cheaply. Hell, when I started, I got some Asics Windhawks for 28€ at a Decathlon clearance.
Clothing though? Lmao who cares.

It's honestly really telling that you never see the fatasses talk about shoes or literally anything else when they talk about fitness gear, only xxxxl leggings and sports bras the size of a horse's harness. Most of my fitness activities don't require more than basic sneakers if anything at all (lol I like to swim laps) so shoes aren't my strong suit, but I totally respect how important they are for running.

 

[Azovka]

It's honestly really telling that you never see the fatasses talk about shoes when they talk about fitness gear, only xxxxl leggings and sports bras the size of a horse's harness.

Ikr. It always bothered me, and not just in “athletic” fatties.

Ever since gym became a culture and a lifestyle (I guess it happened after 2015-2016?), every other wannabe fitness guru only talks about how fashionable and cute sportswear is, and “look, this bra has a pocket uwu”. It’s especially egregious with fatties, but everyone else does it too.

Guess talking about wearing two sports bras for increased support for big chested chicks, or mentioning blisters (both feet and hands if you lift, do tractions, or even row), sweat, or the fact that most high-wasted leggings will slide down when you move if you don’t have a flat stomach, no matter how much “compression” they have, or the difference between zero drop shoes and cushioned ones, and why the latter are probably better for fatties despite engaging the muscles less, just isn’t glamorous enough.

 

[Crepidodera fulvicornis]

RE: kids and diet: it's not hard. NEVER give them sugar AT ALL in the first 24 months at all. AT ALL. Not even fruit, not even "good" sugar. NONE.

Don't most if not all baby food have pureed fruits? Or did you mean fresh fruit, like sliced apple, whole strawberry?
I doubt its possible (or necessary) to avoid all sugar (or “sweetness” in this context, probably) for two years

 

[Fliddaroonie]

Don't most if not all baby food have pureed fruits? Or did you mean fresh fruit, like sliced apple, whole strawberry?
I doubt its possible (or necessary) to avoid all sugar (or “sweetness” in this context, probably) for two years

Totally is possible and baby food is fucking slop. Rammed with oreservatives, sodium and sugar

And any sugars. The body doesn't need it and it stops young brains getting a taste for it.

 

[Diet Coke 4 Life]

You don't need that to go do half an hour on the elliptical, just like you don't need weightlifting shoes for 10kg barbell deadlifts, or biking shoes to do a spinning class.

I will say that if one intends to spin regularly, there are great benefits to actually having biking shoes. The ability to clip into the pedals with SPD clips can you give great variations to the work out, encouraging the use of different muscle groups that normally don’t see the light of day by changing your cadence to pull up vice push down on the pedals during sprints and hard seated efforts. Also, for regular cyclists, the greater transition of power to a bicycle drivetrain is a great asset for a longer endurance rides, and can help mitigate knee pain in worn joints by applying tensile vice compressive strain.

But now I recall which thread I’m posting in, and how autistic this is. Puzzle piece me.

 

[UselessPieceOfShit]

So, there are this sub caled r\diettea. At first I thought that it was a community that actually points at crazy shit diet subs sometimes say, but at closer look it seems to be nothing but fatty resentment. Like, every other post is "reeee, people counting calories is literally anorexia", "reeee, not stuffing your face with food is disordered eating". They especially hate IF and long term fasting. Like, okay, long term fasting IS weird and not 100% safe, but not eating for 3 days wouldn't kill you. I did it out of curiousity once and am still not anorexic.
Some of the thing they say is actually helpful, but I don't understand why they think that dieting and starving yourself is the same thing.
Here are some posts that literally are landwhale butthurt: