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Clownfish has done like four or five videos on how bad I am Not Starfire is but, their book Shadowbinders looks just as garbo. Am I missing something here?

 
Clownfish has done like four or five videos on how bad I am Not Starfire is but, their book Shadowbinders looks just as garbo. Am I missing something here?

It doesn't take potshots at established characters with an obvious self-insert. The background scenery looks very nice, very fairytale-y, but those characters look weird.

This is probably the most interesting tidbit of the campaign description:
We're hoping to use Shadowbinders as a springboard to launch the Clownfish Comics imprint! We want to produce unique comics and graphic novels that aren't mainstream superhero titles or mopey Tumblr autobiographies. Clownfish Comics aims to produce comics for fans of animation, for gamers, and for pop culture enthusiasts that maybe don't read a lot of monthly books. We have more projects in the works -- stay tuned for announcements!
I hope they can pull it off. They might be cowish, but at least they don't just sit on their asses and complain how much everything sucks.
 
It doesn't take potshots at established characters with an obvious self-insert. The background scenery looks very nice, very fairytale-y, but those characters look weird.

This is probably the most interesting tidbit of the campaign description:

I hope they can pull it off. They might be cowish, but at least they don't just sit on their asses and complain how much everything sucks.

they kind of do though. Albeit, not to the degree Geeks and Gamers does. Their videos are in the same category of rage click views.
 
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Clownfish has done like four or five videos on how bad I am Not Starfire is but, their book Shadowbinders looks just as garbo. Am I missing something here?

That actually looks pretty ok. They are YT grifter who read articles for outrage clicks, but the fact they're creating stuff too raises them a up bit.
 
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That actually looks pretty ok. They are YT grifter who read articles for outrage clicks, but the fact they're creating stuff too raises them a up bit.

I’d say between the two books I like the art style of the Starfire book a tad better but, it’s a given that the writing in Shadowbinders has got to be far more superior. As in the author doesn’t go out their way to make you despise the main character even she’s supposed to the hero of the story.
 
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I could have sworn he talked about it and the ideas he had for some sort of Conan story he was just dying to write when the character finally went into public domain.
Conan is in the public domain now. Zack's behind the curve here. These Conan comics all seem to be adaptations of Howard stories. "Uncensored"
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Marvel seems to retain the rights for book titles that include the name "Conan" though.
 
they kind of do though. Albeit, not to the degree Geeks and Gamers does. Their videos are in the same category of rage click views.
I agree they're very similar, as most fandom mancers are, but Clownfish is producing something of actual value in this case, the how much of value is it is of course up for debate, but it's a genuine effort at something besides screaming in front a camera.
In a setting where people go "modern [insert media here] sucks" it's always better to have it followed up with a "so here's ours, try this" instead of a "and don't forget to subscribe, smash that like button, and support us on patreon".
 
I agree they're very similar, as most fandom mancers are, but Clownfish is producing something of actual value in this case, the how much of value is it is of course up for debate, but it's a genuine effort at something besides screaming in front a camera.
They know how to hustle.
 
It doesn't take potshots at established characters with an obvious self-insert. The background scenery looks very nice, very fairytale-y, but those characters look weird.

That actually looks pretty ok. They are YT grifter who read articles for outrage clicks, but the fact they're creating stuff too raises them a up bit.
Looks lame to me.

Is the CG target audience 13 yr old girls?

For a moovement catering to people who hate MsMarvel, Kate Bishop/Hawkeye, She-Thor, and ReeRee Stark CG puts out a lot of Katniss Everdeen knock-offs.
 
Looks lame to me.

Is the CG target audience 13 yr old girls?

For a moovement catering to people who hate MsMarvel, Kate Bishop/Hawkeye, She-Thor, and ReeRee Stark CG puts out a lot of Katniss Everdeen knock-offs.
Kneon used to do children's comics for Disney (think Duck Tales, etc), I doubt the average CG contributor is the target, also I don't think they ever pledged allegiance to the pie and never said they were CG.
 
Far be it from me to disagree with my fellow a-logging Newman, but

Looks lame to me.

Is the CG target audience 13 yr old girls?

For a moovement catering to people who hate MsMarvel, Kate Bishop/Hawkeye, She-Thor, and ReeRee Stark CG puts out a lot of Katniss Everdeen knock-offs.

I'm splitting hairs, but Clownfish were never part of CG proper, more that vague 'CG adjacent' space. I.e. they don't lick the frog sufficiently for some tastes.

Shadowbinders is their own pre-CG property, ready to print and go, much like Cyberfrog Warts and All. And surely we've all been obsessively scrutinizing CG for long enough to know the deal with those female characters of Marvel. Come on, now. It's not just 'female YA-level character finds herself thrust into a strange world' with them, as tired as that trope might be.

The art is alright. You'd think someone who makes much of his past drawing Scrooge McDuck for The Mouse would draw better hands, but I've seen worse in crowdfunded comics, let alone elevated webcomics. At least they're not D&D stick figures.

@The Bovinian Derivative and @NSA are right about them. They're fandom menace grifters, but less cowish than most cattle in that herd, they have an actual product to sell and they have some previous experience or knowledge in getting it done. Bringing them up as the newest punching bag is a nothingburger. Wait until they're a year late with fulfilment, or send out books that fall apart before they even get into backers hands, before reeing about them.
 
It doesn't take potshots at established characters with an obvious self-insert. The background scenery looks very nice, very fairytale-y, but those characters look weird.

This is probably the most interesting tidbit of the campaign description:

I hope they can pull it off. They might be cowish, but at least they don't just sit on their asses and complain how much everything sucks.
I would hardly call Clownfish TV cowish. Maybe Geeky flying off the handle and ranting and the gen-X sex jokes are cringy.
Kneon is vanilla AF.

To me, they feel a lot like two bloggers who moved to Youtube and podcast instead of writing blogs.
Contrary to a lot of FM people, they know their way around comics and animation and can give decent commentary.

I would rather suggest that if cowness was costing them views, they would have kept it in check.
 
I would hardly call Clownfish TV cowish. Maybe Geeky flying off the handle and ranting and the gen-X sex jokes are cringy.
Kneon is vanilla AF.

To me, they feel a lot like two bloggers who moved to Youtube and podcast instead of writing blogs.
Contrary to a lot of FM people, they know their way around comics and animation and can give decent commentary.

I would rather suggest that if cowness was costing them views, they would have kept it in check.
I find them rather vanilla too, used to listen to them when something Disney or animation related came up (fandom menaces all do videos on everything pop-culture related so they all congeal into this giant samey mass, but each of them has something they actually care about, and in Clownfish's case its Disney and animation) but i mentioned the cow behavior because they actually have a thread here of KF. Didn't read up on it yet but it's looks fairly active.
 
Conan is in the public domain now. Zack's behind the curve here. These Conan comics all seem to be adaptations of Howard stories. "Uncensored"
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Marvel seems to retain the rights for book titles that include the name "Conan" though.
Yes they got the rights to do these but Conan is a trademarked property much like "Zorro" is but you can still make zorro books/comics that don't say zorro on the title because of that. Trademark law is weird.

Incidentally these are Euro-comics which are FANTASTIC. high recommend.
 
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I find them rather vanilla too, used to listen to them when something Disney or animation related came up (fandom menaces all do videos on everything pop-culture related so they all congeal into this giant samey mass, but each of them has something they actually care about, and in Clownfish's case its Disney and animation) but i mentioned the cow behavior because they actually have a thread here of KF. Didn't read up on it yet but it's looks fairly active.
I have seen the thread, it is so nothingburger it is barely worth following.
We are still trying to decide if EVS can be considered a cow FFS, Clownfish TV are less cowish than EVS.
 
Clownfish has done like four or five videos on how bad I am Not Starfire is but, their book Shadowbinders looks just as garbo. Am I missing something here?

Ahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaa Oh man, Clownfish "we worked for years for Disney comics and animation, but don't forget to subscribe when DC is dead!' TV. Oh man, thanks for that laugh. It's so bad, so fucking bad.

Like. How can they look at this and think it's ok and not embarassing at all. I'm not even going to go into bad coloring, absolutely shitty light work and boring paneling. Like jesus. I'm never going to take them seriously as pros after this. They are way better off going back to blogging about Disney parks.
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Holy shit, this is so embarassing, especially when they did like at least 8 vids about not-Starfire, which while being shitty comics due to writing and self inserts AND mismatched artist who couldn't handle Danny deVito in drag, has rather great illustrations like this

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In other news an hijab wearing absolute nobody with delusion of grandeur, Zainab Akhtar, cancelled Frank fucking Miller comics con appearance (and him). I hope it was worth it, thought bubble. She already did cancell one comcis con for not being diverse enough around 2015? 2016? so why not have ambition and aim higher and cancel a legend.

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I know her personally and frankly she deserves every single piece of that hate. and so does TB con.
 
Ahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaa Oh man, Clownfish "we worked for years for Disney comics and animation, but don't forget to subscribe when DC is dead!' TV. Oh man, thanks for that laugh. It's so bad, so fucking bad.

Like. How can they look at this and think it's ok and not embarassing at all. I'm not even going to go into bad coloring, absolutely shitty light work and boring paneling. Like jesus. I'm never going to take them seriously as pros after this. They are way better off going back to blogging about Disney parks.
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Holy shit, this is so embarassing, especially when they did like at least 8 vids about not-Starfire, which while being shitty comics due to writing and self inserts AND mismatched artist who couldn't handle Danny deVito in drag, has rather great illustrations like this

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In other news an hijab wearing absolute nobody with delusion of grandeur, Zainab Akhtar, cancelled Frank fucking Miller comics con appearance (and him). I hope it was worth it, thought bubble. She already did cancell one comcis con for not being diverse enough around 2015? 2016? so why not have ambition and aim higher and cancel a legend.

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I know her personally and frankly she deserves every single piece of that hate. and so does TB con.
Miller is a incoherent fool that has nothing to say given his recent work but this is lunacy, at least they name drop who to send the hate to in their tweets for the normies LOL.
 
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Ahahahaha hahahahahaaaaaa Oh man, Clownfish "we worked for years for Disney comics and animation, but don't forget to subscribe when DC is dead!' TV. Oh man, thanks for that laugh. It's so bad, so fucking bad.

Like. How can they look at this and think it's ok and not embarassing at all. I'm not even going to go into bad coloring, absolutely shitty light work and boring paneling. Like jesus. I'm never going to take them seriously as pros after this. They are way better off going back to blogging about Disney parks.
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Holy shit, this is so embarassing, especially when they did like at least 8 vids about not-Starfire, which while being shitty comics due to writing and self inserts AND mismatched artist who couldn't handle Danny deVito in drag, has rather great illustrations like this

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In other news an hijab wearing absolute nobody with delusion of grandeur, Zainab Akhtar, cancelled Frank fucking Miller comics con appearance (and him). I hope it was worth it, thought bubble. She already did cancell one comcis con for not being diverse enough around 2015? 2016? so why not have ambition and aim higher and cancel a legend.

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I know her personally and frankly she deserves every single piece of that hate. and so does TB con.

miller got what he deserved honestly. He might be a legend but, he bent over for these SJW types for so long that it’s just pure irony that they finally turned on him. Maybe… just maybe, he will finally see the light and get back to producing good, high T books again.
 
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miller got what he deserved honestly. He might be a legend but, he bent over for these SJW types for so long that it’s just pure irony that they finally turned on him. Maybe… maybe, he will finally see the light and get back to producing good, high T books again.
Nobody cares about his current work except Zainabs of the twitter world. Me and mtitude of normie fans just wanted their hardcover signed in reasonably achievable location. TB is THE con in UK, I wonder how many people will now back out of coming , especially when travelling to UK is pain in the quarantine arse nowadays. And fir whom? The amazing bearded woman Mags Vissagio who is again a guest of honour?

Miller is a lunatic and has nothing coherent to say given his recent work but this is lunacy, at least they name drop who to send the hate to in their tweets LOL.
It's worse. At first they told her screw you and she posted it on Twitter herself. And suddenly they were inundated with twits from woke crowd and bent the knee. Zainab is calculating bitch, nothing she did up till was innocent- she had at least 3-4 controversies of this calibre up till now she designed to rise her profile and in the end she's still a nobody, just a nobody who cost a lot of people a lot of nerves. I wouldn't be surprised if she was esentially blacklisted from.many comics places. She's British equivalent to Alex deCampi.
 
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I'm splitting hairs, but Clownfish were never part of CG proper, more that vague 'CG adjacent' space. I.e. they don't lick the frog sufficiently for some tastes.

Shadowbinders is their own pre-CG property, ready to print and go, much like Cyberfrog Warts and All. And surely we've all been obsessively scrutinizing CG for long enough to know the deal with those female characters of Marvel. Come on, now. It's not just 'female YA-level character finds herself thrust into a strange world' with them, as tired as that trope might be.

The art is alright. You'd think someone who makes much of his past drawing Scrooge McDuck for The Mouse would draw better hands, but I've seen worse in crowdfunded comics, let alone elevated webcomics. At least they're not D&D stick figures.

@The Bovinian Derivative and @NSA are right about them. They're fandom menace grifters, but less cowish than most cattle in that herd, they have an actual product to sell and they have some previous experience or knowledge in getting it done. Bringing them up as the newest punching bag is a nothingburger. Wait until they're a year late with fulfilment, or send out books that fall apart before they even get into backers hands, before reeing about them.
Disagreeing is all good.

I didn't think they were part of CG proper. I just think what little I saw of the book looks lame on multiple levels and it reminded me of the strange penchant in CG to come up with YA lit type heroines for their stories.

I don't even have a problem with people writing these kinds of characters. I just find it funny that all the people who were pissed Wolverine was turned into a mopey high school chick with a child sidekick are the same people shelling out $25+ for a talking animals/PowerRangers mash up.

EDIT: On an unrelated note I looked at Micah's Englewood 2 campaign and he's a third of the way to his goal with 8 days to make up the difference. Only 90 backers.

Could this be the end of Curly's comics creator dreams?

If so, it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.
 
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