BreadTube - The Unofficial ContraPoints Dickriders Club and the culture / drama surrounding the community.

[BootlegPopeye]

He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse.

The orthodox Marxist take (From Karl himself) of the French Revolution is that the killings ended too soon, hence 'Thermidor' being an epithet that survives among them to this day. Occasionally, I've seen Marxists try to argue that it isn't inherently bloodthristy, but it is difficult to make that argument when the movements own founder argued exactly the opposite.

 

[Tranimal Farm]

One thing Leftists will never address about this, is that if a sane, open-minded person is so easily convinced by right-wing rhetoric doesn't that mean there's something to it? The open expression of ideas should allow the most agreed-upon ideas to succeed. If those are all right-wing ideas, that means they're better and people prefer them.

It's essentially a tacit admission that Leftism is unpopular, and the only way they can get Leftist ideas to become popular is by tricking and propagandizing people.

I wouldn't go that far. I think a lot of people are easily manipulable and can be swayed to an argument so long as its presented to them in an attractive enough way, regardless of whether or not it's inconsistent, dangerous, or just makes no fucking sense. If that weren't the case Breadtubers would be out of a job. Their whole shtick is political commentary that's entirely style over substance and people who don't know any better eat that shit up.

However, I am fervently anti-blackpill and I think their desperate need to justify cancel culture when large swathes of the public, and even left leaning public figures are turning against it ( Marvel cast defending Chris Pratt for example) is a positive sign that they're on the defensive.

 

[Shaka Brah]

If that weren't the case Breadtubers would be out of a job. Their whole shtick is political commentary that's entirely style over substance and people who don't know any better eat that shit up.

They exist in an environment purely catered towards pushing their position though. Before right-wingers were delisted and banned from YouTube, Breadtube didn't and couldn't exist. All the most popular content was their polar opposite, and many of the same grifters who are now Breadtubers were making right wing content. In an open marketplace of ideas their ideas were almost non-starters.

 

[Lord Xenu]

This guy made a video about how cancel culture isn't real and mobs are actually a good thing, and the only people who don't like them are the conservative elites. He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse. (which is totally bullshit btw, the mob wasn't considered a valuable contributor to society in Rome) All of this, obviously has little to do with internet cancel culture but he was trying to make some statement about how mobs being unreasonable, unstable, and prone to violence is just a "cultural trope" (his exact words)

No reference to recent, relevant sociological or psychological studies about mob mentality, anonymity as part of a group, de-individuation, ect. Doesn't dare bring up examples of mob mentality or social pressure that would run counter to his argument, such as lynch mobs, pogroms (anti-semitic lynch mobs), or how Nazism was largely able to spread due to social pressure/social contagion. Which is ironic considering in another video he did on Nazis he uses an argument about how open minded people are susceptible to right wing radicalization, which were all familiar with at this point. "Muh youtoob et muh 4chanz are sucking young people down that Nazi rabbit hole." Well guess what dip shit you can't have it both ways. But suddenly as soon as the mob is a leftist one even when it turns ultra violent then they're completely rational and simply expressing the collective will of the people.

Doesn't mention any of the times other Breadtubers even have been stupidly cancelled, a la Contrapoints being called non-binary-phobic when talking about how in ultra woke spaces everyone makes a point of asking her pronouns, when (supposedly) in normal real life situations Contra goes out and people refer to them as a woman without needing to ask. Sorry Hontra I guess you deserved to be cancelled after all. To people like him the mob cannot be overruled cause it is an essential tool in the coming revolution.

So remember farmers, social contagion = REAL when it leads to Nazism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ect. But social contagion = MADE UP RIGHT WING BS when it leads to leftist violence, exploitation of the vulnerable, online cancelling, leftist in group witch hunting, and trans grooming.

And, of course, most of the sources he cited positively were either written by Marxists, or mentioned Marx in some way.

This whole attitude is pervasive in Leftist academics. A big influence on the leftist politics today is derived from Marcuse's "Repressive Tolerence":

movements from the left must be extended tolerance, even when they are violent, while movements from the right must not be tolerated, including suppressing them by violence.

(Italics are my own) https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/publications/1960s/1965-repressive-tolerance-fulltext.html

 

[Tranimal Farm]

They exist in an environment purely catered towards pushing their position though. Before right-wingers were delisted and banned from YouTube, Breadtube didn't and couldn't exist. All the most popular content was their polar opposite, and many of the same grifters who are now Breadtubers were making right wing content. In an open marketplace of ideas their ideas were almost non-starters.

Fair but I wouldn't go so far as to call it right wing content, moreso just old school liberal content that is only considered right wing now due to its opposition to the left, which it used to be a part of. Remember these are people who think someone like fucking Sargon is far right. But I do absolutely agree that the system is largely catered towards them.

The problem with wanting a return to the "open marketplace of ideas" is that's not at all how they want to engage. Its the praxis problem. Praxis is essentially the Marxist term for evangelism. In Christianity, evangelicals would say it's not enough to just be a Christian yourself and live your life in accordance with Christian teachings, and not concerning yourself with anyone else, as most Christians would, instead you have to spread the faith wherever and whenever you can, and infect as much of society as you can with it. Praxis is the exact same but for Marxism. They can't be expected to deal with the marketplace of ideas because that means just talking about the ideas, which is bad praxis. Unless you spread Marxism wherever, and whenever you can, in as much of society and its institutions you can, then your "faith" isn't genuine. You're not a true Marxist unless you spread it. You don't even have to consistently live socialist principles yourself, all that matters is that you spread them. Voosh has been caught out in this by saying that it's okay for socialists to engage in brutal, exploitative capitalism to obtain resources and power because once the revolution comes, they'll be more useful than someone who tried to be a good socialist in their own life, but who obtained very little that would be of use to a revolutionary. It's all about the ends justifying the means to these people. So while the spirit of battling things out in the marketplace of ideas is certainly a desirable and noble one, the Marxists just completely bypass it for the sake of praxis. It's like expecting a jihad i to validate their beliefs in the marketplace of ideas, they won't bother, they'll just pipe bomb you and convert others to their ideology instead.

 

[DirtyHegel]

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as an Anarchist myself, any "Anarchist" that licks the boot of the CIA is nothing more than a Statist bitch larping ( which tbf is most of the "Anarchist" Left. Also any "Anarchist" Leftists watching, Proudhon supported Private Property and had no problem with Interest and Loans, he wasnt an Ancom and was in the middle between Center and Right on the Economic Scale, actually read him instead of larping when you "Fight the power" by burning down a mom and pop shop ).

This guy made a video about how cancel culture isn't real and mobs are actually a good thing, and the only people who don't like them are the conservative elites. He tries to cite Rome and the French Revolution, both nations that ended up as populist military dictatorships, and the later which executed tens of thousands of people, many of them revolutionaries who dared question the new leftist french government, as positive examples of how mobs are a valuable part of public discourse. (which is totally bullshit btw, the mob wasn't considered a valuable contributor to society in Rome) All of this, obviously has little to do with internet cancel culture but he was trying to make some statement about how mobs being unreasonable, unstable, and prone to violence is just a "cultural trope" (his exact words)

No reference to recent, relevant sociological or psychological studies about mob mentality, anonymity as part of a group, de-individuation, ect. Doesn't dare bring up examples of mob mentality or social pressure that would run counter to his argument, such as lynch mobs, pogroms (anti-semitic lynch mobs), or how Nazism was largely able to spread due to social pressure/social contagion. Which is ironic considering in another video he did on Nazis he uses an argument about how open minded people are susceptible to right wing radicalization, which were all familiar with at this point. "Muh youtoob et muh 4chanz are sucking young people down that Nazi rabbit hole." Well guess what dip shit you can't have it both ways. But suddenly as soon as the mob is a leftist one even when it turns ultra violent then they're completely rational and simply expressing the collective will of the people.

Doesn't mention any of the times other Breadtubers even have been stupidly cancelled, a la Contrapoints being called non-binary-phobic when talking about how in ultra woke spaces everyone makes a point of asking her pronouns, when (supposedly) in normal real life situations Contra goes out and people refer to them as a woman without needing to ask. Sorry Hontra I guess you deserved to be cancelled after all. To people like him the mob cannot be overruled cause it is an essential tool in the coming revolution.

So remember farmers, social contagion = REAL when it leads to Nazism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ect. But social contagion = MADE UP RIGHT WING BS when it leads to leftist violence, exploitation of the vulnerable, online cancelling, leftist in group witch hunting, and trans grooming.

And, of course, most of the sources he cited positively were either written by Marxists, or mentioned Marx in some way.

When Authoritarianism doesnt come from Democracy and Mob Rule cause Big Bushy Beard Man said so. He also claims to be an Anarchist as well, but real Anarchists dont recognize any Involuntary Authority, whether mob or state as legitimate. Hes a fucking larper and mob mentalist, Ted was right, the reason he praises Mobs is due to Leftists being weak and unable to see themselves as strong individually. He views himself as weak and only sympathizes with minority rights as he sees them as weak. Seriously, read the Industrial Revolution and its Consequences, Ted was fucking Based and deconstructed Leftism better than any Right Winger to date. They all fit that checklist, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZUlwB4DRwQ&t=294s heres a summary if you are curious.

 

[Tranimal Farm]

as an Anarchist myself, any "Anarchist" that licks the boot of the CIA is nothing more than a Statist bitch larping ( which tbf is most of the "Anarchist" Left. Also any "Anarchist" Leftists watching, Proudhon supported Private Property and had no problem with Interest and Loans, he wasnt an Ancom and was in the middle between Center and Right on the Economic Scale, actually read him instead of larping when you "Fight the power" by burning down a mom and pop shop ).



When Authoritarianism doesnt come from Democracy and Mob Rule cause Big Bushy Beard Man said so. He also claims to be an Anarchist as well, but real Anarchists dont recognize any Involuntary Authority, whether mob or state as legitimate. Hes a fucking larper and mob mentalist, Ted was right, the reason he praises Mobs is due to Leftists being weak and unable to see themselves as strong individually. He views himself as weak and only sympathizes with minority rights as he sees them as weak. Seriously, read the Industrial Revolution and its Consequences, Ted was fucking Based and deconstructed Leftism better than any Right Winger to date. They all fit that checklist, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZUlwB4DRwQ&t=294s heres a summary if you are curious.

Leftist's are pure Nietzschean resentement given physical form

 

[DirtyHegel]

Leftist's are pure Nietzschean resentement given physical form

yeah, granted I would argue Authoritarians/Statists in general have an Inferiority complex. Right Wing Authoritarians believe that Authority from Tradition is legitimate, Monarchism is traditional ergo it is Legitimate. Age doesnt make something good, Traditions Merits should be judged rather than simply conforming to Tradition. I am a Southern Nationalist Anarcho-Capitalist myself, but I can criticize the South while still being proud of it, the CSA was bad as it exploited fellow Southerners and the KKK was bad as well for attacking Southerners as well. But I still am proud of the South and my Heritage, I still believe the South should be independent from the Imperialist US, who only was against the South due to wanting to exploit it and nothing more. Conservatives however cant criticize Tradition I notice and have to simp for it at every turn instead of critically thinking about it,

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

One thing Leftists will never address about this, is that if a sane, open-minded person is so easily convinced by right-wing rhetoric doesn't that mean there's something to it? The open expression of ideas should allow the most agreed-upon ideas to succeed. If those are all right-wing ideas, that means they're better and people prefer them.

It's essentially a tacit admission that Leftism is unpopular, and the only way they can get Leftist ideas to become popular is by tricking and propagandizing people.

The people are too stupid to know what’s best for them. That’s why some jack off trust fund son who is now an unelected bureaucrat in Brussels is the one calling the shots

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

Lol, he deleted his twitter account.

Oh well. Lance next I guess.

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

yeah, granted I would argue Authoritarians/Statists in general have an Inferiority complex. Right Wing Authoritarians believe that Authority from Tradition is legitimate, Monarchism is traditional ergo it is Legitimate. Age doesnt make something good, Traditions Merits should be judged rather than simply conforming to Tradition. I am a Southern Nationalist Anarcho-Capitalist myself, but I can criticize the South while still being proud of it, the CSA was bad as it exploited fellow Southerners and the KKK was bad as well for attacking Southerners as well. But I still am proud of the South and my Heritage, I still believe the South should be independent from the Imperialist US, who only was against the South due to wanting to exploit it and nothing more. Conservatives however cant criticize Tradition I notice and have to simp for it at every turn instead of critically thinking about it,

The age of the tradition gives said tradition weight due to its ability to survive and keep the society/ethnicity alive. That's part of the justification.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

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Lol, he deleted his twitter account.

Oh well. Lance next I guess.

Reminds of the end of Gangs of New York. No one will remember him. His past, present and future has always been "Who's ForcedAdversity."

 

[COMMI3 MARK]

 

[Guntkvd]

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Lol, he deleted his twitter account.

Oh well. Lance next I guess.

>responds to 3-year-old video that was so bad even sjws went after comedy central for not doing hit piece properly
>acts like an internet tough guy and calls a fucking war vet a coward lmao
>of all the people you could easily call a grifter like a quarterpounder, umbrella guy, yellow flash, nobs he goes after someone who actually produces comic books including fucking Expendables
>just straight-up lies
8/10 made me respond.
On an unrelated note, Lance is a legitimate cretin and an oxygen thief.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Now we got some nice comments from him,
First, who benefits from the left eating themselves? Well of course the Right Wing Festering Neckbeards here at KiwiFarms
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Look at him cuddled up in his little blanket, defending SDL because of 'same team' politics, as if hypocrites are somehow wronged by being called out for their abject hypocrisy.

Now what is this so called KiwiFarms?

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Of course all users are Nazis
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Who cares what a jobless moron thinks. He's still a child, it's just he swapped living off his parents for living off patreon. Thats why everything in this supposed adult's life is like a high schooler. His room is a mess, he buys stupid shit, he has an expensive gaming pc set up and a flashy vape pen. Ooh wow. Now for your next trick, afford your apartment.

Btw, public info available through google is now private information found through doxing when posted to Twitter.
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I thought it was virtuous to expose hypocrisy. Why do so many people with the supposedly moral political positions get mad about that?

A final bonus on Xanderhal wanting to buy a gun, mentioning he's broke, and his girlfriend saying no.
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The age of soy boy smug cuck hipster irony is indeed over. What a child. Still in the fetal position under his blankie.

 

[Scarmaiden]

Xandpig's got one one joke:


Someone needs to enlighten Piggy on how being porn addled coombrain isn't a substitute for personality

 

[Kendall Motor Oil]

Someone needs to enlighten Piggy on how being porn addled coombrain isn't a substitute for personality

https://easypeasymethod.org/

Alex, I know you read this thread. It's not too late, brother.

 

[Lobster Cult High Priest]

Well I’m glad that we don’t have an annoying Coomer like Alex on the dissident right. We already have our hands full dealing with Catboy Groypers, Ethan Ralph, Tardski and Caillou, Gator, and JF the potato farmer.

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Well I’m glad that we don’t have an annoying Coomer like Alex on the dissident right. We already have our hands full dealing with Catboy Groypers, Ethan Ralph, Tardski and Caillou, Gator, and JF the potato farmer.

Nick the “Ironically” gay Groyper and his boyfriend the “Ironically” lolicon bisexual catboy

 

[Shaka Brah]

Well I’m glad that we don’t have an annoying Coomer like Alex on the dissident right. We already have our hands full dealing with Catboy Groypers, Ethan Ralph, Tardski and Caillou, Gator, and JF the potato farmer.

All the RW coomers turned into "based trannies" or anime pfps, so at the very least they're widely ridiculed and excluded.