US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[MrJokerRager]

Trump is mad at McConnell for possibly cucking to the Democrats in Congress over the infrastructure deal.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

well just give up and die then lmfao

Nah fuck that, Find somewhere that will weather the coming collapse well, get away from the cities..and laugh as the Coasts become dystopian dumps.

 

[gaystoner]

Is there a thread about the prison/carceral system in the United States? I'd definitely be interested in contributing to it if that were the case. There is a lot to discuss, and, I'd argue, a lot that needs to be discussed.



Oh, almost certainly. The thing is, when it comes to International norms, it doesn't really matter for any of the permanent members of the UN security council. Not only won't anybody hold them to account, the way it's structured means they can't.

Disagree..Russia has already given us the finger in regards to their pipeline with Germany...In effect Germany is giving us the finger probably in part due to the Obama admin spying on merkel.

China is pretending to be besties with the Taliban while sweeping up more mineral rights. in general the USA looks weak AF thanks to this administration from an objective standpoint and all this admin knows how to do to gain prominence is 'apologize' and 'drum up a war' which will officially ostracize America from the rest of the world.

 

[Compositesludge]

Disagree..Russia has already given us the finger in regards to their pipeline with Germany...In effect Germany is giving us the finger probably in part due to the Obama admin spying on merkel.

Pipelines/business dealings aren't really intrinsic to International norms. Think of them as exceptional pieces of International relations. International relations are when you talk to neighbors/shun neighbors, International norms are how you're not supposed to shoot any of them!

 

[gaystoner]

Pipelines/business dealings aren't really intrinsic to International norms. Think of them as exceptional pieces of International relations. International relations are when you talk to neighbors/shun neighbors, International norms are how you're not supposed to shoot any of them!

we went to war in syria to stop russia from obtaining a pipeline...now we rubberstamp them selling to Europe. lol. 'pipeslines arent intrinsic to inernational norms' lol.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Trump is mad at McConnell for possibly cucking to the Democrats in Congress over the infrastructure deal.

Is Trump just oblivious that the majority of Republicans/Conservatives in office went full RINO one he was out of office?

He keeps acting like the Republican is still a legit party that would actually do some shit when in reality they have been heel-turning on a daily basis and have become no different from the Dems.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Is Trump just oblivious that the majority of Republicans/Conservatives in office went full RINO one he was out of office?

He keeps acting like the Republican is still a legit party that would actually do some shit when in reality they have been heel-turning on a daily basis and have become no different from the Dems.

He seemed oblivious while in office but since he left, with all those articles coming out about how the administration was run, he had a lot of subversives acting against him.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Is Trump just oblivious that the majority of Republicans/Conservatives in office went full RINO one he was out of office?

You mean During Bush's second term right?

 

[Compositesludge]

we went to war in syria to stop russia from obtaining a pipeline...now we rubberstamp them selling to Europe. lol. 'pipeslines arent intrinsic to inernational norms' lol.

They're not! You're conflating International relations with International norms. International relations are just dealings between states. Our changing perspective on Russia's pipelines and what we're willing to commit to stopping them from creating them is a part of International relations. We're both states within an innately anarchical International system, with different desires and goals for the future, so how we achieve those for ourselves and prevent others from achieving them is part of the bundle.

International norms are the means by which we try to reduce the anarchy of the International system by codifying practices as acceptable or unacceptable. There's a good article introducing them from Wright State University here, I've quoted some of the more salient parts below:

Among the different types of norms in the literature, there are regulative norms that refer to those that constrain behavior, a popular account for foreign policy analysis. Some norms are prohibitive, saying what not to do, while others are prescriptive or permissive, saying what can be or should be done (Finnemore, 1996). Constitutive norms go beyond mere constraint to change or “create new actors, interests, or categories of action” (Finnemore & Sikkink, 1998; Searle, 1995). There are norms tied to particular identity groups, and others that exist more generally. Norms are bundled in broader international regimes and institutions, and some “metanorms” provide “foundational” and constitutional architecture to more specific rules and laws (Reus-Smit, 1997).

One argument for norm conformity and acceptance is the implied punishment that comes with noncompliance. Some definitions of norms stress the aspect of social sanction for normatively proscribed behaviors. A “behavioral definition” of norms, according to Axelrod (1986, p. 1097), “exists to the extent that individuals usually act in a certain way and are often punished when seen not to be acting this way.” But a focus on “behavioral regularities” risks tautology and ignores that possibility that “not all patterned behavior is rule-bound or rooted in shared expectations about others’ behaviors” (Helmke & Levitsky, 2004, p. 727). To be a norm, Helmke and Levitsky (2004, p. 272) argue that a behavioral regularity must “respond to an established rule or guideline, the violation of which generates some kind of external sanction.” The definitions provided by Axelrod, Helmke, and Levitsky assume punishment of norm violators, which may not be theoretically or empirically warranted. A second section of this article takes up the foreign policy of norm enforcement or punishment of norm violations.

Among the most common definition of norms in the international relations literature is “collective expectations for the proper behavior of actors with a given identity” (Katzenstein, 1996, p. 5). With this definition, we face the problem of figuring out who has the “given identity” and how shared the collective expectations are for which appropriate behaviors.

I hope that helps. It's a very fascinating and diverse field to learn about!

 

[Cynically Insane]

Nah fuck that, Find somewhere that will weather the coming collapse well, get away from the cities..and laugh as the Coasts become dystopian dumps.

Except to take Montana as an example, 71% of real estate sold is going to out of staters, most of those from the west coast. Locals are being priced out of the market. They wrecked their respective states and are now fleeing to the interior to wreck those states too. This shit will metastasize to the rest of the country if we don't start treating the cancer now.

Edited cuz I smooth brain forgot word.

 

[Honka Honka Burning Love]

Except to take Montana as an example, 71% of real sold is going to out of staters, most of those from the west coast. Locals are being priced out of the market. They wrecked their respective states and are now fleeing to the interior to wreck those states too. This shit will metastasize to the rest of the country if we don't start treating the cancer now.

Well, I mostly meant in terms of an area that won't instantly set itself on fire when the next economic bump comes along.

Think less "Mad Max" and more "The 2008 Ressession on roids" when I speak of a coming collapse. Given our level of Technology and ease of food I don't think Society will go full on gone, just a little rough for a while. We really are kind of going into Unprecedented areas, but there is certainly some sort of massive shit show coming, we live in what is effectively two Americas with two different ideals and something has to be fixed or give.

And I don't think the Administrative Complex is actively interested in Fixing things.

 

[CrippleThreat]

Is Trump just oblivious that the majority of Republicans/Conservatives in office went full RINO one he was out of office?

He keeps acting like the Republican is still a legit party that would actually do some shit when in reality they have been heel-turning on a daily basis and have become no different from the Dems.

Just his blind (and naïve) trust that they would just do the right thing. But no, they're gunning for sanctions on ice cream companies (Looking at you too, DeSantis! Getting shit done, huh?) and chicken sandwich restaurants for Israel and to own a demented meat puppet, all to score points with Ben Shapiro types.

Also rings in this fact: Why are Gosar, Gohmert, Greene, and Gaetz (lol "G" conspiracy) the only Repubs + a slim few, who are actually doing something. Why do you have these feckless elite who think they're so tough to call out the Uyghur prisoners in China, or the Cubans, but act like they're the eyewitnesses of their own cuckening when faced with their own supporters being political prisoners? China and the US are nearly identical at this point, but no one is sounding the alarm.

They feign the Trump toughness, but their barks are whimpers and they're so corrupt and weak-willed (how many arms of various interests are tugging on them to betray the country on a daily basis), they lack the sincere optimism of Blumpf and sense of hope he exudes.

Even Russia's up there; at least with Putinstan, the women are gorgeous, buxom and not FAT.

And @gaystoner, you think this is Red Wave™ worthy, even without the fraud?

 

[The Last Stand]

Tbh the conventions don't really apply to America unless they want them to. Who's going to complain, we're the money guys.

Nobody wants to hold America accountable for anything. We went from a xenophobic culture to a righteous one. Actually, I think both still applies just differently than before.

 

[gaystoner]

Just his blind (and naïve) trust that they would just do the right thing. But no, they're gunning for sanctions on ice cream companies (Looking at you too, DeSantis! Getting shit done, huh?) and chicken sandwich restaurants for Israel and to own a demented meat puppet, all to score points with Ben Shapiro types.

Also rings in this fact: Why are Gosar, Gohmert, Greene, and Gaetz (lol "G" conspiracy) the only Repubs + a slim few, who are actually doing something. Why do you have these feckless elite who think they're so tough to call out the Uyghur prisoners in China, or the Cubans, but act like they're the eyewitnesses of their own cuckening when faced with their own supporters being political prisoners? China and the US are nearly identical at this point, but no one is sounding the alarm.

They feign the Trump toughness, but their barks are whimpers and they're so corrupt and weak-willed (how many arms of various interests are tugging on them to betray the country on a daily basis), they lack the sincere optimism of Blumpf and sense of hope he exudes.

Even Russia's up there; at least with Putinstan, the women are gorgeous, buxom and not FAT.

And @gaystoner, you think this is Red Wave™ worthy, even without the fraud?

red wave will happen because of the CDC/Fauci. The prison stuff is only starting but will soon be used publicly in international talks and then people will go 'Oooooh'. The economy continuing to fail is another issue people are panicking about and all Democrats talk about is 'Jan 6th'. Beating a deadhorse is terrible optics.

 

[MrJokerRager]

Just his blind (and naïve) trust that they would just do the right thing. But no, they're gunning for sanctions on ice cream companies (Looking at you too, DeSantis! Getting shit done, huh?) and chicken sandwich restaurants for Israel and to own a demented meat puppet, all to score points with Ben Shapiro types.

Also rings in this fact: Why are Gosar, Gohmert, Greene, and Gaetz (lol "G" conspiracy) the only Repubs + a slim few, who are actually doing something. Why do you have these feckless elite who think they're so tough to call out the Uyghur prisoners in China, or the Cubans, but act like they're the eyewitnesses of their own cuckening when faced with their own supporters being political prisoners? China and the US are nearly identical at this point, but no one is sounding the alarm.

They feign the Trump toughness, but their barks are whimpers and they're so corrupt and weak-willed (how many arms of various interests are tugging on them to betray the country on a daily basis), they lack the sincere optimism of Blumpf and sense of hope he exudes.

Even Russia's up there; at least with Putinstan, the women are gorgeous, buxom and not FAT.

And @gaystoner, you think this is Red Wave™ worthy, even without the fraud?

They are probably liberals themselves who just want the pozz at a slower pace.

Plus many of them are out if touch and then there is the NIMBYism.

As long as the border doesn't affect them, they do not care.

 

[mandatorylurk]

I think even with attempts to protect fraud in certain states there will be at least a 30 seat swap in '22 and the senate will get 2 seats back (Mark Kelly and Warnock will go, possibly Maggie Hassan too in NH). That's just right now as I see it on buyer's remorse and shit economy.

 

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

we live in what is effectively two Americas with two different ideals and something has to be fixed or give.

Civil war 2, electric boogaloo.

I think even with attempts to protect fraud in certain states there will be at least a 30 seat swap in '22 and the senate will get 2 seats back (Mark Kelly and Warnock will go, possibly Maggie Hassan too in NH). That's just right now as I see it on buyer's remorse and shit economy.

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That's a great slogan, I think it'll be perfect.

 

[HandsomeDan]

I think even with attempts to protect fraud in certain states there will be at least a 30 seat swap in '22 and the senate will get 2 seats back (Mark Kelly and Warnock will go, possibly Maggie Hassan too in NH). That's just right now as I see it on buyer's remorse and shit economy.

Why does warnock not have 6 years, was that only a partial term up for election?

 

[SBG]

Disagree..Russia has already given us the finger in regards to their pipeline with Germany...In effect Germany is giving us the finger probably in part due to the Obama admin spying on merkel.

Germany just wants gas. There was never a chance of Germany giving it up. Most US sanctions and attempts to interfere with foreign countries' trade fails miserably as they're all looking out for their own countries first and foremost. The only real loss is in the US not recognizing these other countries are doing this and stopping treating them as allies that need to be placated by the US rather than the other way around.

 

[gaystoner]

Italy showing defiance against the 'Green Pass' aka Totalitarianism.

Its from patriots.win (formerly donald.win) so it could be an edit but these tech companies probably just blanket say 'this account posts misinformation' and tag any links they post

Lockdowns incoming