Chris: So, yeah, she's got really [unintelligible] g-spot, because, apparently, I don't believe her, I don't believe that Mr. C, any of her past boyfriends and ex-husbands, they haven't really reached and hit her g-spot, really, with their dicks.
Bella: Right. Right.
Chris: They haven't, they -- they prefer to focus on themselves, really, as opposed to focusing on her, which that's my focus.
Bella: Right? Ditto, yeah. True. For, like, I think that men should make sure to have a lot of fun -- make sure to have a, you know, push your [bleep] and have a lot of fun with her, right? Because --
Chris: Obviously.
Bella: Yeah, because now you're doing this for your mom, yet make sure -- I'll be there, I'll be there, watching you guys making sure nobody is -- [coughs] Sorry, my throat. [coughs] Nobody is trying to hurt you, do anything, take photos of you two.
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Bella: Dance would be awesome. You could take turns. I'd like to dance with her too, and then you guys could take like the slow dance or whatever, and --
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Chris: -- And all the other [signs for?] [unintelligible] the convention [paying?] for the convention as well.
Bella: Yeah. Buy how are you feeling, Christine? How are you feeling? Because I know there's lots of societal pressure on you about like this thing with Barbara. There's lots of societal pressure and a lot of people you know consciously who ju--, who would judge, you know, there's a lot of eyes on you. It must be very stressful.
Chris: Yeah, it is.
Bella: Yeah, I can imagine. I'm so sorry about all that stuff. Yeah.
Chris: Well, still, but [still?] we'll still have Magi-Chan and Cryzel to dance with.
Bella: You always have them.
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Bella: Okay.
Chris: The incest fanfics that come true and shit.
Bella: I didn't know there was such a thing. I didn't know there was incest fanfics. Were there, about you and Barbara? I can't believe it. I didn't even think that, I knew that you guys had a good relationship, but I always thought, 'cause I'm not huge on Christory, and you know, whatever, I just thought that the whole Sonichu franchise was very interesting, and that's how I got into you when I was younger, right? But I had, I [didn't have any?] idea that Barbara, that Barbara and you had that sort of relationship, I never got any of those vibes. But, how did you approach her?
Chris: I approached her with care and caution. And, it was a time for us, so I just gave her comfort and talked with her, and we just [unintelligible] out slow and steady, and I, and I encouraged her positively, let her make the first move. She wanted to do it, and she--
Bella: Oh, she did, really? She made the first move?
Chris: Yeah.
Bella: Oh! Oh, really! Wow! Barbara, hehheheh! How, how did she do it, if you don't mind me asking? What was the first move?
Chris: Ugh. I don't remember exac-- That was her first move, but my approach was, I forgot exactly what terminology and approach I used, but I approached with care and caution.
Bella: That's good.
Chris: And I was, and I was most, and I was direct and upfront with her for the most part.
Bella: That's good. And how did she respond when you, when you approached her? What'd she say?
Chris: I don't remember exactly what she said, but it was kind of, it was, I think she was partially confused at one point, but, but then she came around, obviously, [unintelligible] with the more approaching that I was doing with her along the way.
Bella: Right. So she, so she got into it. How was -- did you -- how was the first kiss? You kissed her, how did that feel? Having known this woman for your whole life. How did that feel?
Chris: Oh yeah, I mean, it was simple, lip, lip-lock, lip-to-lip kiss contact, but, you know, it was actually good and it felt right.
Bella: When did you start having feelings for Barbara?
Chris: Well, obviously for a... Well, for a long time. I mean, I remember even mentioning some time ago in one of the video that I even had dreams where I had, dreams where I had sex with her obviously, so.
Bella: Really? Yeah.
Chris: But, yeah, that's right. The Oedipus complex.
Bella: Oh, Oedipus, that's right, yeah. Yeah, that's right. How, how, if you don't mind me asking, I know this is probably personal, you don't need to answer, but how is the sex?
Chris: I'd say it was satisfactory. It took a while, it took a few tries.
Bella: It took a few tries? Yeah. She is, she is older.
Chris: And plus also she's very understanding about the whole thing as well. I was direct with her, still direct and honest with her. And I made sure that I obviously, I am never gonna propose marriage to her at all, because we're already daughter and mom.
Bella: Yeah, mother and daughter. You know, they say there's no, there's no stronger bond than a mother and her daughter.
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Chris: We've been doing it every third night, and the first night came on June 27.
Bella: Oh, you have a routine! Ooh!
Chris: Yeah.
Bella: Well, I guess you have a stable, you have a stable relationship, because you know it's not going to end, like, if anything happened, you'd still be, you would still be, you know, you would still be mother and daughter. You're, it's not going to be like explosive breakup, right?
Chris: Yeah.
Bella: That's, at least that's comforting. Yeah.
Chris: Yeah.
Bella: So you said something -- [cross-talk] June. June? [cross-talk] Right.
Chris: [It's been nice?] to figure, to figure out what made, what felt right, and what didn't feel right, and...
Bella: Does your mother enjoy it?
Chris: Yeah. Yeah, she's having a good time [with?] our relationship.
Bella: She is? She's having a good time?
Chris: Yeah, well, we'll figure it out.
Bella: That's good to hear. Do you guys act more like mother and daughter, or do you guys act more like, you know, lovers? When, like, say you come home from, you know, the supermarket, and you see Barbara, would you say, "Hey, sweetheart!" or do you say, "Hi mom"?
Chris: Yeahh. I'm, I'm, I haven't called her "mom" in quite some time now.
Bella: Oh really?
Chris: So, yeah. I'm more, I'm more often calling her "love" at this point.
Bella: But you recently started dating Fiona, isn't that, that's true, right? You're in an open relationship?
Chris: Yeah. It's, it's, [stuttering] between Barbara and I, it is an open relationship, and I made that very clear with her.
Bella: Right. Is Barbara dating anybody else?
Chris: She is not, no.
Bella: No? But she's fine with you dating other people, right?
Chris: Yeah. She's okay.
Bella: Do you guys go on any dates or anything romantic like that?
Chris: Well, not anything extravagant, but we do as often as possible eat at the dinner table together.
Bella: Yeah.
Chris: We haven't been able to that much lately because [unintelligible] have to switch to a soup diet because after getting a crown on a tooth--
Bella: Oh, did you?
Chris: Yeah.
Bella: Right.
Chris: She's still trying to remember her inner child and--
Bella. Right. That's true, yeah.
Chris: But I'm encouraging her towards a [possible?], toward the positives, and be like a homemaker type.
Bella: Yeah, yeah. Knowing you, Christine, I think that because you, I know, I understand that she's mature, you know, and she's mature and she's wise, she's wise in her ways of, you know, she has experience and she loves you, and you two have a great relationship, but wouldn't you want somebody who's younger? Right? To keep up more with your energy? Yeah. A lot of time with your mom, like whatever you have left with her, that makes sense, because, you know, you don't know how long she has left, so you just want to, you just don't want her to be lonely or anything, right?
Chris: Yeah, obviously, but I still would want somebody who is younger than, who is younger or close to my age obviously. I dunno, maybe...
Bella: You don't want anyone who's younger?
Chris: Not too many others, at this point at this time, but obviously, [unintelligible] [informations on attracting my?] [unintelligible] we proceed towards it more slowly.
Bella: Sorry, I turned the volume, for me, I have a really bad ear because I just, I got sick, like it [cured?] my voice, its hard to hear anything at all, but I can hear you now, go ahead?
Chris: Right, so anyway, the events of everything, and I was feeling like I really needed a sexual release, and not too many, not too many individuals this side of the iron curtain were coming up to the plate right there, so, and then the everything was coming into good alignment and it was, the signs were all very [unintelligible] and Emmanuelle, you know, God just said it was okay, and [unintelligible] started to guide me towards it.
Bella: God said this was okay? Yeah, then you don't have anything to worry about, if God himself said, "This is fine."
Chris: Yeah, yeah. And, so, yeah, I just thought to myself, okay, so I'll take a dive for it, so--
Bella: But how did this happen? How did this come about?
Chris: [stress sigh] Well, from which just mainly I was very very horny and I need a true and honest relationship to come about, so obviously this was one of the best ways to do it, despite it being the [unintelligible]. I don't want to believe in labels at all, but obviously--
