Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

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One of my old school friends decided to become a 'man'. Her husband divorced her, basically took everything but their cat and she is apparrently 'living her truth' but sad posts just about every day. They claim they've felt this way their 'entire life' which feels like a re-writing of history - she never once expressed being a man or feeling weird as a woman. What she did have? Was a lot of abuse in her life that clearly didn't get sorted out as an adult.

Recent selfies show she's growing facial hair and she just looks like a pre-teen boy or y'know, a girl with PCOS facial hair.

It's just sad to me. And pointless.
 
I just graduated from "a couple" to "an entire social group". How much to reveal without PL... ok, I have a gaming group I've hung around with for quite a few years. Mostly online shooters and that sort of thing, something to wind down at the weekend now and then. It's almost all male. Work has been intense recently, so between shitposting here and being actually productive, I've not had much time to spend gaming and consequently haven't spent much time interacting to them for quite a few weeks. Checked in today and suddenly half the active group are squeaking about how euphoric they are and going on about their spinny dresses and "escaping" their oppressive families. Played one session and it was every single tranny stereotype you can imagine. Faggoty lisps, squeaking "female" voices, constant complaining about being misgendered, never-ending whining about everything under the sun and all the while, they're ignoring the game we're supposed to be playing.

RIP gaming night I guess.
You could always try the Fighting Game Community. They have troons too, but they seem to be mostly contained to Anime fighters and retro shit.
 
The assumed nerd default is that you are pro-troon. If you actually speak up and say "my belief is that this is a social contagion masking a real problem" -- well, now you're the weird and obsessive person for bringing it up, and there's no way to tell if the person you're talking to is a True Believer or another person who was staying quiet out of self-preservation. If you disclosed to a handmaiden, say goodbye to GURPS on Thursday.
I've been slowly and surely introducing radfem concepts to my friend who's fiance trooned out. She's doing so much better, has a boyfriend (that introduced her to Chris Chan, ALR, and Chantal, so I highly suspect he's a farmer as well), lost a shit ton of weight, and is overall happier than before. When I started bringing up the topic with her I was very anxious that she'd react badly but it actually went kinda well, and she saw the insanity of it. Even though it was positive, I'm still scared of going too fast and crossing the line. It really feels like I'm attempting to deprogram her and it's terrifying because I think that one wrong step could get me cut off and cancelled.

He is such a lolcow that I can't believe he used to be somewhat normal and called himself enby a year ago. He fully trooned out less than a year ago. I found out he's entering the local kink community and is into needle and light blood play. Calls himself a emo goth trans catgirl lesbian and has the ears, choker, tattoos, bad makeup skills, everything. I gotta ask her if he has signs of being into shit like that because it's just so funny and horrifying that someone can rapidly change like that in less than a year.
I noticed that at some point i started wishing for some big scandal, one that the media wouldn't dare to lie about, something that would expose the troon cult to people who don't know shit and are essentially just useful idiots. Because i really don't think there is any other way this will stop. I'm pretty scared. Compared to some of you i really had it pretty good so far but if my corner of the room is going to go to shit the same
I hope that Laurel Hubbard smashes it at the Olympics because the cult will only fall down if it's exposed on the international stage. But even then I'm worried that it won't be enough.

WoLF confirmed that there is at least one woman in California prisons that became pregnant after being raped by a male transgender inmate. There could be more right now, and there will be more if nothing is done. And deep down I know that countless inmates will have to carry babies to term and that won't change the policies as they supplied the women with condoms and plan b pills in preparation for the accommodation of men in women's prisons.

We know that women and girls are getting exposed to penises in places the want privacy. We know that women no longer have single sex protections, especially when they need it the most - homeless, domestic violence, and rape shelters. We see the word woman being left behind for phrases like pregnant people but the word men isn't tampered with. We know that girls are losing out on sports scholarships to boys that claim they are girls to score easy wins. We know that children are swiftly put on puberty blockers, got their healthy organs removed, and then growing up to regret the decisions and are left with a dysfunctional body.

How many women, boys, and girls must be traumatized or have their bodies destroyed until we decide it's too much? I'm scared that the answer is an infinite amount as I worry that the only thing that can stop this is the fad falling out of fashion and society moving on to a different craze.

Sometimes I worry I'm catastrophizing the whole situation and falling to the slippery slope fallacy, but some slopes truly are slippery and I look around, see all of this, and think to myself that this is one of them.
 
my friend thinks he's nonbinary and wants to microdose estrogen. how the fuck do i convince him not to. it's not gonna give him the results he wants and i don't have the heart to tell him nonbinary isn't real
What the fuck does he expect 'microdosing' estrogen to do for him? Make him slightly a woman?
 
my friend thinks he's nonbinary and wants to microdose estrogen. how the fuck do i convince him not to. it's not gonna give him the results he wants and i don't have the heart to tell him nonbinary isn't real
does nonbinary really mean half trooning? thats pretty retarded, i thought nonbinary was like the new way of saying bisexual for heterosexual schoolgirls and didn't actually carry any stakes.

He'll probably fully troon out shortly enough,the initial lovebombing from random retards will give him a rush , then he will realize he is just a drag queen wanabee and will want to troon harder to get a new validation high, tell him having the impulse to troon but not doing it outright is a sign of his own better sense not wanting to fully commit and maybe try to go from there to figure out why he is edging himself to do something so impulsive. Does he have a history of crossdressing or being a repressed homosexual or something like that? is he going through depression? dealing with loss or rejection? a rough patch in his emotional life? there's usually something there when people's sense of identity becomes vulnerable
 
my friend thinks he's nonbinary and wants to microdose estrogen. how the fuck do i convince him not to. it's not gonna give him the results he wants and i don't have the heart to tell him nonbinary isn't real
Tell him he'll get cancer from those contaminated Made in China drugs he orders on the internet. Also, if he's worried about going bald, there are other methods that don't carry such great risks, like platelet-rich plasma injections and hair transplants.
 
my friend thinks he's nonbinary and wants to microdose estrogen. how the fuck do i convince him not to. it's not gonna give him the results he wants and i don't have the heart to tell him nonbinary isn't real
Just ghost him and move on, once he’s in the cult. He’s a lost cause.
Saves you a lot of grief if you just don’t care. He’s not your responsibility.
 
does nonbinary really mean half trooning? thats pretty retarded, i thought nonbinary was like the new way of saying bisexual for heterosexual schoolgirls and didn't actually carry any stakes.
Yes, especially for men who are budding AGPs. Nonbinary typically is the "testing the waters" stage. I've got a nonbinary housemate (I was desperate since at the time as it was possible that I would be paying rent for two places, don't judge) and someone slipped up and called him "she" and not only did he not correct the misgender faux pas, he said it was alright in a demure voice. Gross. He got back from visiting his troon bf the other day and he was wearing a bodycon dress. Ive placed my bets that he'll be all about that she/her by the end of the year. It definitely feels as if his troon bf is grooming him: every time he visits he comes back looking more like a female caricature than a mix of both feminine and masculine traits. They met online, started long distance dating less than a year ago, and they're planning on moving in next year.

For women on the other hand, nonbinary is the place that they go when they want to escape womanhood but don't want to be associated with men as it's men who made them want to flee womanhood and they don't want to be a gross, oppressive man. Sometimes you see the "testing the waters" version of nonbinary with women though.
 
'Nonbinary' is a fundamentally illogical and regressive concept because it implies that people who are not non-binary are all comfortable with every gender stereotype in existence. It is basically saying 'restrictive gender stereotypes are fine and good, they just don't apply to me, because I am special' rather than working to actually change anything.

They will probably just yell and cut you off if you say that though.
 
'Nonbinary' is a fundamentally illogical and regressive concept because it implies that people who are not non-binary are all comfortable with every gender stereotype in existence. It is basically saying 'restrictive gender stereotypes are fine and good, they just don't apply to me, because I am special' rather than working to actually change anything.

They will probably just yell and cut you off if you say that though.
The entire tranny cult assumes that gender roles are immutable. It has to, or it falls apart for lack of foundation; if gender roles are fluid, then a boy playing with girls toys is just an effeminate boy, not a five-minutes-from-suicide victim of social oppression who needs pills and surgical intervention to make his body fit the immutable feminine role.
 
Never thought it’d happen to me but someone I used to consider a friend has now trooned out to be a “woman”. It’s the typical modern troon grooming story and I saw it happening but I didn’t say anything out of fear of judgement. I know I’m not responsible for his choices but it sucks seeing so much potential wasted like that. I wanna grab him by the shirt and just say “WTF is wrong with you bro this isn’t you why are you doing this”. Should I confront him as a friend and just let him know how I feel?
 
Never thought it’d happen to me but someone I used to consider a friend has now trooned out to be a “woman”. It’s the typical modern troon grooming story and I saw it happening but I didn’t say anything out of fear of judgement. I know I’m not responsible for his choices but it sucks seeing so much potential wasted like that. I wanna grab him by the shirt and just say “WTF is wrong with you bro this isn’t you why are you doing this”. Should I confront him as a friend and just let him know how I feel?
Too late if he has started on HRT, he can never be the same friend you held dear by then.
 
Too late if he has started on HRT, he can never be the same friend you held dear by then.
Thing is he hasn’t. It’s LARP at this point but he’s really into it. I think if I said something now it’d just be an angry rant he’d just block me cuz he can’t handle the truth but maybe in a couple days I’ll figure out the right thing to say
 
Thing is he hasn’t. It’s LARP at this point but he’s really into it. I think if I said something now it’d just be an angry rant he’d just block me cuz he can’t handle the truth but maybe in a couple days I’ll figure out the right thing to say
You can say you're concerned and let him talk. Ask questions, there is a thread about the failure rates about neovaginas. Don't remember the name, but you can scare him with Yaniv's neovaginas falling off and eaten by his ratdog.
 
Not quite a lost a fan/friend to troonery but close enough.

Yesterday I was talking to my brother, one of my favorite people in the world. He lives in a place where the state gov is going full throttle on the anti troon bills. Brother and I have discussed gender shit on occasion so he knows my stance but it’s been a few years.

Anyway, he has a Jeanette Jennings for a pal, a woman who is trooning out her 8 year old son. And he supports it. He’s been emailing and calling reps and senators on her behalf because for some reason he buys the story that a four year old (the age this child was when he allegedly told his mom he was a girl) could “know” they were the wrong sex.

I didn’t say anything, because it’s just not worth the argument and we have other things to talk about and debate on a more positive end. But I can’t believe he fell for this shit. This is usually a very intelligent, thoughtful guy. I think it’s because he doesn’t have kids, and despite being an uncle several times over, he just doesn’t quite get the way kids think and express themselves at that age.

Four years old— and this woman trooned out her kid for hipster asspats. My dark thought is if this woman continues to medically transition her child, which is what she has planned, he’s going to see in real time a Jazz in the making. Sometimes you gotta let people peak trans themselves.
Dude, check out the Jazz Jennings thread on here. Jazz is now 19/20 and a bigger physical and psychological mess than ever. That's the future for most trans kids.
 
Dude, check out the Jazz Jennings thread on here. Jazz is now 19/20 and a bigger physical and psychological mess than ever. That's the future for most trans kids.
Yeah I post in that thread pretty regularly.

The trick is convincing my brother to read it or at least something more mainstream like Keira Bell.
 
Thing is he hasn’t. It’s LARP at this point but he’s really into it. I think if I said something now it’d just be an angry rant he’d just block me cuz he can’t handle the truth but maybe in a couple days I’ll figure out the right thing to say

You can say you're concerned and let him talk. Ask questions, there is a thread about the failure rates about neovaginas. Don't remember the name, but you can scare him with Yaniv's neovaginas falling off and eaten by his ratdog.
The thread is this one:
SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

An all you can eat buffet of body horrors.
 
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