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So, obviously we're not going to get any TiFs competing with the men at the Olympics, but do we have any examples of a female actual Olympic athlete choosing to retire from female sports in order to be their true, authentic selves™️? They're still delusional, but I could at least respect that. Here are a couple of close cases, but they aren't quite what I'm looking for.
  • Schuyler Bailar could probably have been a female Olympian, but she threw that all away in high school so she wasn't ever actually an Olympian
  • Erick Schinegger as far as I know chose not to compete in the '68 Olympics when he found out he was male, but he wasn't trans he just had an intersex condition
 
BBC: Namibian athlete says 'You can't tell me now I am not a woman'
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I can't?

Beatrice Masilingi is (from what I understand) a natal woman but with elevated T levels. Oddly though, she has been barred from the 400m competition but not from the 200m sprint (source: AP). I find it strange that there are different rules for different competitions within the same Olympics, especially when many athletes compete in both 200m and 400m.

I do kind of feel for women that cannot help their bodies' T production but this is 'biological doping' of sorts. In 100 years from now, will there be any world records set by women that fall in the lower 95 percentile of testosterone levels?
 
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Oughtism said:
I do kind of feel for women that cannot help their bodies' T production but this is 'biological doping' of sorts. In 100 years from now, will there be any world records set by women that fall in the lower 95 percentile of testosterone levels?
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Lmao wait till you discover that the entire olympic testosterone measuring system uses a ratio between different forms of testosterone to establish whether someone is halal or not, and since these ratios inherently vary by a great deal between races, asians have a massive handicup and can pin test while still testing natural, and then you have most of the US and western athletes on legal doping due to medical exemption. Better to accept that the rules are made up and this shitshow is all but fair game, might as well throw some troons in there, doesn't really change much
 
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Oughtism said:
BBC: Namibian athlete says 'You can't tell me now I am not a woman'
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I can't?

Beatrice Masilingi is (from what I understand) a natal woman but with elevated T levels. Oddly though, she has been barred from the 400m competition but not from the 200m sprint (source: AP). I find it strange that there are different rules for different competitions within the same Olympics, especially when many athletes compete in both 200m and 400m.
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This is because the intersex competitors took all the medals in the 800m last time so they changed the rules for middle distance races where they thought the same thing might happen again.

I suppose when it happens in other races too they will also be changed.

www.reuters.com

FEATURE-False start for intersex athletes barred from Olympics

When the world's fastest women race for gold over 800m in Tokyo, all three medallists from the 2016 Olympics will be absent - barred as intersex athletes who refuse to alter their natural hormones to meet the rules of sport.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com
 
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So Francine Niyonsaba was disqualified from the heats of the women's 5000.

Very strange. Do you know how hard it is to get disqualified from this event? Word is she stepped over the curb and into the infield.

This type of call is dubious given the inherent jostling that occurs in races, and there appears to be a lack of clear visual evidence on film.

Small "conspiracy" brewing in the running community, where some claim the IOC were looking for an excuse to DQ Niyonsaba based on "her" intersex status, and thus scrutinized the race for the tiniest infraction.
 
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Oddly though, she has been barred from the 400m competition but not from the 200m sprint (source: AP). I find it strange that there are different rules for different competitions within the same Olympics, especially when many athletes compete in both 200m and 400m.
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This was a sly move by World Athletics. Banning without outright banning. To normies is looks just like restrictions. But there's a reason for it.

Make no mistake, the average male would be destroyed by elite women at any given distance. But that certain class of "mediocre men" -- whether they be intersex or full-blown troon -- who are determined to compete against women find greatest success in the 400-1500 meters. Why? It's just a matter of physiology and required training.

You'll notice that there are many high school boys who could easy win the women's Olympic 400 and/or 800 and/or 1500. Why? Training for these events is most "user-friendly" -- it demands a mix of aerobic and anaerobic exercise and relatively low miles per week. And "athletic" individuals, soccer players for instance, often find rapid success in such distances. Contrast that to the extreme ends of the spectrum. Short sprints require a specific physiological make-up, innate "fast-switch" muscle fibers, plus tons of speed work and weight training. Long distance running requires mega miles, preferably at elevation. Point being, any man who wants to weasel his way into women's sports probably isn't going to be outright "fast enough" for the short sprints, nor would he have the dedicated aerobic development needed for a 29:00 10k. But those middle distances, those that simply demand more general "athletic training" -- that's the sweet spot.

Caster Semenya is a humorous example here. She has recorded times of 49.62 for 400, 1:54.25 for 800, and 3:59.92 for 1500. None of these times are world records, but no women in history has ever displayed such range. You know where you do see such times in succession? In male high school seniors.
 
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You're an actual idiot if you put money on Hubbard. He's competing against chicks who have already beaten him by a large margin before (about 60-70 kg). Should've put your money on the Chinese woman who just got the world record this year
 
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Just a reminder, our favorite madlad Laurel Hubbard is entering the competition today - in about three hours time (19.50 Tokyo time)!

I'll see if anyone will be around in chat, hopefully one of the channels will air it live so a stream can be found.
 
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About to start!

Found these articles while I was looking for live streams:

www.stuff.co.nz

Victims of Laurel Hubbard crash appalled at sentence and suppression

"Totally unjust," says man hurt by Olympic weightlifting hopeful Laurel Hubbard's driving.
www.stuff.co.nz www.stuff.co.nz

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Livestreams

Weightlifting Women S 87kg Live Streaming Online | Olympic Streams

Olympic streams offer you free dedicated Weightlifting Women S 87kg live streaming page where live streaming video and links for Weightlifting Women S 87kg. You can watch the Weightlifting Women S 87kg match online he
www.olympicstreams.me www.olympicstreams.me

stream.nbcolympics.com

Weightlifting: Women's 87+kg: Group A

Watch the women's 87+kg Group A competition at Tokyo International Forum.
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WhatInTheActualFuck said:
So is this guy just some weirdo taking their Bruce Jenner LARPing all the way?

"Buckle up, Buckaroo!"
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There are more similarities.. Both have questionable driving skills (Gavin crippling someone in an incident in 2018).

Oh well better luck next time, break an arm in Paris 2024 Gavin!
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(photo from 2018, about six months before causing a pensioner to have major spinal surgery due to reckless driving)
 
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The Vicar said:
What an anticlimax. Hubbard failed all three attempts...

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A farmer wrote a commemorative poem:
Miracle- said:
Tranny tranny lifting weights
loads the bar with lotsa plates
lifts it up towards the sky
over women, very high

twas a man not long ago
changed it for olympic show
enter laurel, came to quarrel
picked a fight to show her morals

on the stage he stood out stark
pattern baldness twas his mark
as he waited, legs wide spread
dreams of gold within his head

all the women did their best
/ourguy/ soon was up to test
with a manly 'hup!' he strode
to the bar in lifting mode

picked it up, but there he faltered
like the gender he did alter
second try, he sure was shaky
got it up, his elbow achy

judges didn't seem to mind
almost like the lot was blind
out again, third times the charm!
but disagreed his manly arms...

here the fairy tale does end
of the man who did ascend
to a ladies locker room
the muscle laden, balding troon
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The Vicar said:
What an anticlimax. Hubbard failed all three attempts...

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LOL, what a feminine thing to do, completely and repeatedly overestimate the amount of weight you can lift. You might call this an anticlimax, but I think this is a fucking masterpiece, we were all debating between two options, a) he wins and looks like a man competing against women or b) he loses and thereby looks like a normal competitor in the category. He pulled a Kobayashi Maru and managed to lose and look like a man competing against women.
 
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Surfin Terf said:
He pulled a Kobayashi Maru
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This is nerdy but he cheated and lost. KM would be either that he cheated and won or that the situation was completely unwinnable for everyone (which this isn't as he opened the door for more troons so a win for them).

Unless you mean it some other way?
 
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