Chris-Chan incest leak / Chris has been removed from 14 Branchland Court

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Again, I really don't think you realize how much WORSE being in an institution is. It's like jail only you get abused a lot more and have a lot less control over your life.
This 100%. These mental hospitals for criminals aren't walks in the park. They're probably less funded than actual prisons, and once you're "crazy", it's a huge amount of red tape, social workers, state doctors, etc... needed to label the person "not crazy".
 
No, it isn't. Because you are basing your conclusions off his written word which has clear contradictions all over and not just in behavior. This is not a good basis for conclusion.
No, it's his words and actions. Look, Chris being a liar had nothing to do with his capacity to understand his actions. Why you're even bringing it up is just strange. Chris isn't criminally insane, and he is presumed to be sane until proven otherwise.

Further, your argument that he lies for social acceptance - and as seen recently for self-preservation - does not indicate an inability to understand what he's doing, quite the opposite. The fact he hides his bad behaviour shows he either knows it's wrong, or that its not socially or legally acceptable.
Is sticking his dick in her really a way of caring for her?
Ask Virginia, apparently leaving a vulnerable old woman with a sex pervert like Chris was a good idea! Some social workers need their shit pushed in for thinking that was a good idea. Shit, Chris nearly killed them both years ago, what the fuck were they thinking allowing this trash fire to keep burning.
 
I admit I'm pretty ignorant about CWC in general
It shows.

Chris has never been around a woman without sexually assaulting them. He has been banned from at least one con for sexually assaulting women. Chris is a sexual predator, and a known one at that.

He has admitted to his mother saying no. He has admitted his mother displayed states of confusion.

At this point going ‘I don’t think Chris would rape someone’ is just ignorance, he has always jumped at the chance to sexually assault people and there is nothing to imply he would not sexually assault a disabled eighty year old woman.
 
No, it's his words and actions. Look, Chris being a liar had nothing to do with his capacity to understand his actions. Why you're even bringing it up is just strange. Chris isn't criminally insane, and he is presumed to be sane until proven otherwise.

Your argument was based on things Chris said to people online. You mentioned him posting his views on incest as part of this. This makes him lying and attempting to control how people see him very relevant. My point throughout is we don't know if he is insane or not.
 
Seems unlikely that it's all 100% bullshit. Seems pretty inescapable now that he's engaged in various sexual acts with his own elderly and "mush-brained" mother. What remains a big question, for me, is who started it.

Others have suggested that maybe he wasn't the one to initiate this thing with his mom. As far as I know, the "mom started it" theory still remains a strong possibility. I haven't studied Chris like I've studied some of the other cows, but based on what others have said it seems his mom has had serious issues with maintaining boundaries for a very long time now. As a person goes senile, due to dementia/Alzheimer's or whatever, it's fairly typical that they'll experience mood swings. Mood swings are a pretty common indicator that things are starting to go wrong in the brain. She might stop wearing her clothes one day, might even start hitting on Chris if she's temporarily forgotten who he is. I'm not trying to say that it's her own fault if she was raped, only suggesting that perhaps the fault isn't 100% Chris-chan's.

Look at the way he talks about it. It's like he has no idea he's done anything wrong. Sure, you can blame the autism for that, but I wonder... I don't think even his autism can cash a check that big.

I can't believe his mom put them in major debt and it now seems inevitable they're going to lose that house. His mom is a selfish, wretched excuse for a human being. What really stuck out to me in those text conversations was that she's apparently told him that she's never, ever masturbated in her entire life. That sounds like such a big, fat lie to me. How does someone with dementia have the wherewithal to lie about something so immaterial? Also, why the fuck is she telling her son that he's doing a great job hitting her g-spot while his dead dad wasn't able to?

IMO, it doesn't add up that this was all his own doing, I believe that (just like what happens with Chris and trolls) his mom somehow guided or encouraged (groomed) him towards this bizarre behavior. I mean, he even knew that it was supposed to stay a secret, right? "Strictly Confidential, just between you and I" but there was NOT A SINGLE HINT of any shame or embarrassment on his part while relating these disgusting events. I think it's because someone told him not to tell anyone. Perhaps the real abuser wanted it to stay secret because they knew how the world would react?

I'm not someone who likes Chris. I don't dislike him either, I'm just saying I have no reason to try and throw doubt on his guilt, no reason to try and protect him, I genuinely sense something amiss here beyond the "autistic son rapes elderly mother" tagline. I firmly believe that as more details come out we'll learn that she had more of a hand in this than most people realize.

It wouldn't surprise me a bit if she ended up throwing him under the bus to save herself. She's already done that once already by racking up all that debt. The poor doofus felt their souls "merging" or whatever the fuck, he'd absolutely lie for her if she asked him to.

I know that @Null is probably feeling pretty disappointed with Chris atm. If things are exactly as simple as they look then yes, Chris is a big disappointment. I don't think it's as simple as it looks though. I think maybe Chris didn't consider the $750 stealing because he was going to pay it back and in his autistic brain that wouldn't be stealing. Chris seems to have a good heart, like a child he might be selfish but my impression is that he really wants to be one of the good guys, not a bad guy. I can tell that Chris is probably a much better person than his mother is.
ITT: Retards STILL making excuses for Chris and alluding to his 'pure heart' underneath the layers of immoral behavior and literal rape.
 
No, it isn't. Because you are basing your conclusions off his written word which has clear contradictions all over and not just in behavior. This is not a good basis for conclusion.

You dont know what he believed at the time of the act and that is what determines if he meets the standard for insanity and that is why until a doctor makes the call this is just mental masturbation.
There are two insanity issues here, not psychologically, but legally.

The first is whether he was insane (or with diminished capacity) at the time of the act(s). There are probably good arguments for both but that's up to the shrinks. Legal insanity might get him off criminal charges, but it could also put him in a loony bin (or the famous group home) indefinitely. Diminished capacity could reduce the charges and get him anything from mostly off and under some kind of supervision to just a lower sentence.

The other issue is whether he's insane right now to the point he isn't fit to stand trial. Just as with the other issue, the medical part of that is up to the shrinks, but legally, the result would be he'd be institutionalized and treated until sane enough to stand trial, if that ever happens.

This is assuming he's going to be charged with something. It's hard to imagine that not happening.
Linehan is a bog eyed, Quasimodo-looking faggot.
Yes, he is a writer. They usually look like that.
 
I admit I'm pretty ignorant about CWC in general, I know only the basics. There are several things that just don't add up for me about this current situation. I'm not trying to say he's innocent, I don't know that. I'm not even trying to blame Barb for the situation, despite my growing suspicions that this was mostly her own doing. All I'm suggesting is that this isn't as simple as it looks. I could even be wrong about that, it may be exactly as simple as it looks.

If you go back and read what he was saying about his "anonymous-over-50-gf" it aligns more with what I'm suggesting about CWC being slowly guided into this versus him raping his disabled mom.

I think he may well have been encouraged to rape his mother, some of the stuff the "interviewer" says on the recording points that way.

We know in the past he's been coerced to do things like post a video with a sex doll, or shove the sonichu medallion up his ass, usually with promises of sex or threats of trolling. But he knew it was wrong and did it anyway, possibly because he thought raping his mother would mean he could get his hands on a boyfriend free girl - but that's irrelevant.

Whether he raped his mother because he wanted to, or he raped his mother because he wanted something else - he did it because he wanted to. And frankly I don't think Chris would have needed that much encouragement given prior history. And once he did rape her the first time, he chose to carry on doing it and decided to stop calling her "Mom" and start calling her "Barbie-Chan" and deciding she was his girlfriend.
 
You might not have listened to the unedited version.
I did.

They talk about a young girl who's planning on going to college.
Chris told Null that Fiona is in her 50s.

Bella says that Fiona is always saying nice things about Chris and that she never says a mean thing about him.
Chris could'he told her "Fiona says I'm TRUE and HONEST" and Bella just recalled that.
 
Your argument was based on things Chris said to people online. You mentioned him posting his views on incest as part of this. This makes him lying and attempting to control how people see him very relevant. My point throughout is we don't know if he is insane or not.
If you lie to people for social acceptance and self-preservation you show some capacity to understand social ques and how people perceive you. Sorry, if anything this undermines your point.

Right, but again it's not just his words taken at face value. If he's lying about being against incest, he has at least understood that it is not socially acceptable. That shows capacity to understand.

So no, it's just not relevant, or at least not how you think it is. It actually shows calculation, not insanity.

Lastly, it's not whether he's insane it's whether he has the capacity to understand whether what he has done is wrong.

He's presumed sane, everyone is. It's incumbent on people to make the case he isn't.
 
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Honestly I hope they do try the insanity defense just to finally put an end this hella gay debate about whether Chris could qualify for an insanity plea that's been going in circles for over a decade.
 
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