US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[JosephStalin]

This was yesterday, in Allentown, Pennsylvania. Hope Clueless Joe enjoyed it.

 

[like_shutup_&_drive_scoob]

Second Capitol police officer Gunther Hashida killed himself. He was present at the response to Jan 6th as Emergency Response in the Capitol Spec Ops unit. Method of suicide is not disclosed, only that he was found in his residence, but considering that the last guy who committed suicide "shot himself in the head" while driving, you can guess.

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[LurkTrawl]

The easiest answer is to declare "victory" over COVID and move on from 2020.

They're not going to do that though, seeing as it gives them too much power over the people and the economy.

Certainly the Dems have to realize that ordering a second lockdown, federal or not, is essentially a political self-destruct button?

At this point, I doubt they care. They've shown open contempt for the concept of "caring about the little guy", and seemingly think we're already past the goal-line for a neo-feudal future - with them as the nobility.

He won't cuck out until he's an elected Manchurian Candidate, as a safety net for 2024/2028. If he was a real threat to the corporate establishment order they would barely be talking about him. The negative press push I'm sure, from under my tin foil, is reverse psychology.

No, you're spot on. It couldn't be more obvious that he's the pseudo-Trump they're going to run to try and flush the party of any "Trumpian" (as much as I hate the term, it's stupid sounding) influence and thought.

Ah, that specific thing. You then come close to it. It's not that DeSantis is being controlled, it's that the left really, REALLY doesn't want Trump.

Both can be true at once, they're not mutually exclusive.

Now, there is some hope that DeSantis will be more willing to 'play ball' as well. But he just... lacks the usual connections to be a puppet.

No, there is no hope of that. You can be as much of a statistician and cold-logic thinker about it as you want, but he's a party man through and through, and for both major parties in the U.S. that means he's beholden to the same powers that have the rest of them by both the wallet and the short-hairs. He's nothing but a Judas goat.

And if you know anything about politics in Florida, the only reason he's been such a good guy so far is that he's knife's-edge close to being ousted if he fucks up, whether it be more lockdowns, mask mandates, or God forbid jab passes.

Illegals cannot vote without citizenship,

Birthright citizenship. They fuck and breed like rabbits. This isn't complex. To say nothing of illegal voting practices which has been a running joke-but-not-really for decades.

 

[Gehenna]

Both can be true at once, they're not mutually exclusive.

No, there is no hope of that. You can be as much of a statistician and cold-logic thinker about it as you want, but he's a party man through and through, and for both major parties in the U.S. that means he's beholden to the same powers that have the rest of them by both the wallet and the short-hairs. He's nothing but a Judas goat.

And if you know anything about politics in Florida, the only reason he's been such a good guy so far is that he's knife's-edge close to being ousted if he fucks up, whether it be more lockdowns, mask mandates, or God forbid jab passes.

Birthright citizenship. They fuck and breed like rabbits. This isn't complex. To say nothing of illegal voting practices which has been a running joke-but-not-really for decades.

To DeSantis, I want to be clear I am not defending the man himself. Just this specific charge. There is a reason I want a Trump/DeSantis ticket since it provides a chance to properly vet the man. I don't have any good reason to be leery of him, but neither do I have a good reason to like him.


As to citizenship... yes. It's explicitly what that post was about. As in, -explicitly-. The Birthright citizenship applies to their children. That was the whole point, it's not complex.

 

[LurkTrawl]

To DeSantis, I want to be clear I am not defending the man himself. Just this specific charge. There is a reason I want a Trump/DeSantis ticket since it provides a chance to properly vet the man. I don't have any good reason to be leery of him, but neither do I have a good reason to like him.

DeSantis will prove to be a second Pence, and I think we all remember how Pence turned out in the end... don't we? "Et tu, Brute?"
Edit: Also, there won't be a chance for a Trump/DeSantis ticket, imo. I don't think they'll let Trump back into the party running for pres, or if they do they won't let him be the nominee come hell or high water. DeSantis is being prepped to be the answer to Trump, he's not going to be the guy who helps Trump further influence the GOP.

As to citizenship... yes. It's explicitly what that post was about. As in, -explicitly-. The Birthright citizenship applies to their children. That was the whole point, it's not complex.

It's important to point out also the voter fraud angle. It's not like they haven't done it before... like, recently, or anything.

 

[Radical Cadre]

It really is prophetic.

 

[Gehenna]

DeSantis will prove to be a second Pence, and I think we all remember how Pence turned out in the end... don't we?

It's important to point out also the voter fraud angle. It's not like they haven't done it before... like, recently, or anything.

Pence proved a competent vice-president underneath Trump, able to perform well above the duties normally assigned to the VP. He also proved to be either spineless or a Judas. Hence why I want him under Trump, the man will get a feel for him and know how to use him. If he is another Pence, he'll serve a purpose and find a lack of support from Trump. If he proves good, well, Then all is well.

And generally, it's not illegals voting, the audits have pretty well put that to bed. It's literally running the same ballot through multiple times or making them appear from thin fucking air. Honestly, kinda would prefer it if it was the illegals...

 

[LurkTrawl]

Pence proved a competent vice-president underneath Trump, able to perform well above the duties normally assigned to the VP.

Kind of tired of this line, both in conversation and in logic. I don't really give a fuck if he's "competent" when competency means "capacity to undermine". Remember who it was that was giving orders behind Trump's back on Jan 6th. Also I just can't see a Trump/DeSantis ticket when he's being pretty clearly geared up to be the party's pseudo-Trump. I seriously doubt they'll even let him run as a pres candidate this time around.

He also proved to be either spineless or a Judas. Hence why I want him under Trump, the man will get a feel for him and know how to use him. If he is another Pence, he'll serve a purpose and find a lack of support from Trump.

Yeah, because Trump really got a good feel for Pence, right? Lmao.

If he proves good, well, Then all is well.

And if he doesn't? Then we'll see a president further undermined by his own subordinates, again. Yeah, pass. Hard. Pass.

And generally, it's not illegals voting, the audits have pretty well put that to bed. It's literally running the same ballot through multiple times or making them appear from thin fucking air. Honestly, kinda would prefer it if it was the illegals...

Just saying it's not entirely unthinkable nor does it not occur. It does, to some extent. There's also the idea that they're put out in these towns to intentionally spread the coof, so that they can have case numbers for agit prop.

 

[MrJokerRager]

DeSantis will prove to be a second Pence, and I think we all remember how Pence turned out in the end... don't we? "Et tu, Brute?"
Edit: Also, there won't be a chance for a Trump/DeSantis ticket, imo. I don't think they'll let Trump back into the party running for pres, or if they do they won't let him be the nominee come hell or high water. DeSantis is being prepped to be the answer to Trump, he's not going to be the guy who helps Trump further influence the GOP.

It's important to point out also the voter fraud angle. It's not like they haven't done it before... like, recently, or anything.

Trump's popularity within the GOP is high enough to win over at least 40 plus states with over 90 percent of the vote in the next round of GOP primaries. Trump is not Bernie and there are no super delegates. Trump could win every state in the primaries at least 51 percent to become nominee. RNC fucked themselves after trying to cuck Ron Paul.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Trump's popularity within the GOP is high enough to win over at least 40 plus states with over 90 percent of the vote in the next round of GOP primaries. Trump is not Bernie and there are no super delegates. Trump could win every state in the primaries at least 51 percent to become nominee. RNC fucked themselves after trying to cuck Ron Paul.

...and? You think that'll keep them from trying, or even outright doing that, after they said "fuck the optics" and almost unilaterally condemned and blamed Trump for the unguided tour on Jan 6th?

Look, we tried the "he needs the establishment to fight the establishment!" logic last go-round, it didn't work. In fact I'd argue that kind of thinking is exactly the reason corruption is such a fucking problem nowadays. If he runs again - and I'm sure he will - regardless of if he wins the GOP nom or runs as an independent, he needs a VP who explicitly isn't part of the same machine he's saying he's fighting against. Not everybody is just going to see Trump/_____ as a ticket. People aren't as quick to forget what happened the last time he had an establishment VP as many would believe, elsewise Pence would've resurfaced from whatever hole he's hiding in by now.

 

[The Last Stand]

Trump's popularity within the GOP is high enough to win over at least 40 plus states with over 90 percent of the vote in the next round of GOP primaries. Trump is not Bernie and there are no super delegates. Trump could win every state in the primaries at least 51 percent to become nominee. RNC fucked themselves after trying to cuck Ron Paul.

I don't understand why the RNC would have Trump again after all that's happened. A Trump 2024 ticket would be the worst thing logistically. DeSantis running his own ticket would be a better run.

 

[ForTheHoard]

I don't understand why the RNC would have Trump again after all that's happened. A Trump 2024 ticket would be the worst thing logistically. DeSantis running his own ticket would be a better run.

The RNC doesn't have much of a say. They don't have the same emergency levers as the DNC where they can flat out ignore their voters. If there's an overwhelmingly popular republican in the primaries, the RNC can't really stop them. They were able to change a few rules around in 2012 to disqualify an otherwise qualified Ron Paul, but that can't be done with someone like Trump that is the people's face of the party.

 

[The Last Stand]

The RNC doesn't have much of a say. They don't have the same emergency levers as the DNC where they can flat out ignore their voters. If there's an overwhelmingly popular republican in the primaries, the RNC can't really stop them. They were able to change a few rules around in 2012 to disqualify an otherwise qualified Ron Paul, but that can't be done with someone like Trump that is the people's face of the party.

If they let Trump in and he wins, he'll definitely go DEFCON 1 (5?) on the RNC. He has a personal vendetta for the federal government. I'm sure he'll do whatever he thinks is necessary to exact some justice. Long term, the RNC would be better off with DeSantis and a competent VP to pump the brakes before it goes off the rails.

 

[Radical Cadre]

You know what the real bitch of all this is? Tracer Tong was right.

Not so drastic.

"You can't possibly go through with that! You'd kill everyone, including yourself!!" - Bob Page

 

[LurkTrawl]

The RNC doesn't have much of a say. They don't have the same emergency levers as the DNC where they can flat out ignore their voters. If there's an overwhelmingly popular republican in the primaries, the RNC can't really stop them. They were able to change a few rules around in 2012 to disqualify an otherwise qualified Ron Paul, but that can't be done with someone like Trump that is the people's face of the party.

They'll fuckin try, watch. I bet it'll be right after the results of the midterms, too.

I can't be the only one who remembers just how many scumfucks with R next to their name were out on their media talkshows saying "we need to accept the results of the election". They want him out, and they'll move mountains to do it.

If they let Trump in and he wins, he'll definitely go DEFCON 1 (5?) on the RNC. He has a personal vendetta for the federal government. I'm sure he'll do whatever he thinks is necessary to exact some justice. Long term, the RNC would be better off with DeSantis and a competent VP to pump the brakes before it goes off the rails.

I agree with this, with the caveat that the RNC as it is, corrupt and not serving it's constituents, would be better off long term. They'd be better off long term as a party if they just roll with the Trump wave.

 

[The Last Stand]

I can't be the only one who remembers just how many scumfucks with R next to their name were out on their media talkshows saying "we need to accept the results of the election". They want him out, and they'll move mountains to do it.

One name comes to mind. McConnell. He sleazes his way into good graces with the election results just to protect his spot.

This isn't necessarily about Trump himself, it's a power complex that the uniparty is willing to preserve by any means necessary. Having said that, Trump running office again would only spell disastrous results long term.

The people wanting Trump back in office want yes men around Trump. You cannot run a country with yes men. In a way, that's how we're in the situation with Biden. Vote Blue No Matter Who.

 

[LurkTrawl]

One name comes to mind. McConnell. He sleazes his way into good graces with the election results just to protect his spot.

This isn't necessarily about Trump himself, it's a power complex that the uniparty is willing to preserve by any means necessary. Having said that, Trump running office again would only spell disastrous results long term.

Yeah, he's really kinda fucked their whole "managed decline" plan into the dirt. Woke too many people up. Unless you mean something else by "disastrous results" which, is laughable if you mean to the country. Guy's lukewarm as far as that goes.

The people wanting Trump back in office want yes men around Trump. You cannot run a country with yes men. In a way, that's how we're in the situation with Biden. Vote Blue No Matter Who.

I wouldn't say people wanting Trump back in office want yes men, I for one, if he were to run again, just don't want another motherfucking establishment stooge hanging off his nuts at every hour of the day. Non-establishment doesn't equal yesman. Trump's a bombastic, sometimes stupid fuck, but he's not a mogul with a real-estate empire because he surrounded himself with yesmen his entire life. I'd trust the guy, were he to actually realize by now that the way he tried the first time around bit him in the ass, to pick people - fresh people - who haven't been tied to the rot on capitol hill.

 

[CrippleThreat]

I don't understand why the RNC would have Trump again after all that's happened. A Trump 2024 ticket would be the worst thing logistically. DeSantis running his own ticket would be a better run.

Three questions you have to ask yourself, and come to a conclusion?

1. Who is Ron DeSantis? It's like Obama; the nigga came out of nowhere. Aside from COVID handling and "Getting shit done! Boom!" meme magic (his Big Tech stuff was cool, but toothless).

2. Why would you want the best governor in the country to leave his stand, and trap himself in DC as POTUS should everything go to shit? The Federal Government is mess worse than Jeb Bush, and Ronny D has his state under control (for the most part, until Fried keeps fucking over).

3. Who's the next governor of Florida after DeSantis? Hopefully a Republican succeeds him and COVID is over by 2024. Charlie Crist will trounce Nikki Fried in the Dem primary, and go on to lose against DeSantis next year (God willing). But again this boils back into my second point. DeSantis stopped Broward County's voting corruption, signed "If you loot, you get the shoot" into state law, and opened up his state after going along with lockdowns, but the point remains. Keep that man in Florida.

I don't care if wine aunts and soccer moms tardrage at Drumpf. Gen Z GOPers just see winning Trump policies with nicer words (My generation is exceptional. Truly.). I don't even care about "the white base" folks saying the election wasn't rigged. 2020 Drumpf sucked, but how the hell do you lose a 900,000 vote lead in Pennsylvania, see it happen, sit there and say, "If he just courted the Whites who won him 2016..." But I digress.

Keep Ron in Florida. And don't get me started on who GOPers think his VP should be. LMFAO.

 

[The Last Stand]

Three questions you have to ask yourself, and come to a conclusion?

1. Who is Ron DeSantis? It's like Obama; the nigga came out of nowhere. Aside from COVID handling and "Getting shit done! Boom!" meme magic (his Big Tech stuff was cool, but toothless).

2. Why would you want the best governor in the country to leave his stand, and trap himself in DC as POTUS should everything go to shit? The Federal Government is mess worse than Jeb Bush, and Ronny D has his state under control (for the most part, until Fried keeps fucking over).

3. Who's the next governor of Florida after DeSantis? Hopefully a Republican succeeds him and COVID is over by 2024. Charlie Crist will trounce Nikki Fried in the Dem primary, and go on to lose against DeSantis next year (God willing). But again this boils back into my second point. DeSantis stopped Broward County's voting corruption, signed "If you loot, you get the shoot" into state law, and opened up his state after going along with lockdowns, but the point remains. Keep that man in Florida.

I don't care if wine aunts and soccer moms tardrage at Drumpf. Gen Z GOPers just see winning Trump policies with nicer words (My generation is exceptional. Truly.). I don't even care about "the white base" folks saying the election wasn't rigged. 2020 Drumpf sucked, but how the hell do you lose a 900,000 vote lead in Pennsylvania, see it happen, sit there and say, "If he just courted the Whites who won him 2016..." But I digress.

Keep Ron in Florida. And don't get me started on who GOPers think his VP should be. LMFAO.

You have any better ideas?

 

[MrJokerRager]

You have any better ideas?

I roll the dice on Trump running in 2024, DeSantis returns in 2028 and onwards. The GOP optimistically by then has managed to pass Voter ID laws to stop the Democrats pulling the same stuff in 2020. DeSantis running in 2024 is too early and he needs to fortify Florida hard into a red state for a while. Beyond Trump and DeSantis at the state level, there is no other competent GOP leader out there and if there was one in the mold of Teddy or Lincoln, I would give his or her a chance.