Otherkin / Fictionkin / Therians - Weirdos LARPing as animals, mythological creatures, and fictional characters

[Elim Garak]

Even by otherkin standards, this person is nuts. All their posts are like this, plus the fact that he/she kins the Dark Knight Joker, makes him/her a personal lolcow of mine. All of their kins are super edgy.

 

[Elim Garak]

I found this nugget of gold on tumblr. I know it’s most probably a troll, but it’s just to funny to pass up.

 

[Toolbox]

I found this nugget of gold on tumblr. I know it’s most probably a troll, but it’s just to funny to pass up.

This is somehow more faggoty than the tile fetishist if true.

 

[Dr. Octogonapus]

Hello fellow Kiwis, I have certainly found... Something.
There's a new underground kin community called "Endels". What sets Endels separate from standard otherkin? Well Endels believe their kintypes is routed in delusions. What I don't understand, however, is if you acknowledge something is a delusion... Is it still a delusion? I mean we say these people are delusional, but are they still delusional if they use "delusions" as one of their scout badges of autism?

Here is a carrd explaining Endels. - (Archive 7/9/21)
Here is the Endel tumblr blog. - (Archive 7/9/21)

Also I want to hear what fellow kiwis think of this statement:

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This has to just be a munchie thing, right? That's all I can think of.

 

[Elim Garak]

Yep, it’s a munchie thing. Combine that with the otherkin stuff, and it is obvious that this girl really wants to be “not like the other girls.”

 

[deermeat]

Hello fellow Kiwis, I have certainly found... Something.
There's a new underground kin community called "Endels". What sets Endels separate from standard otherkin? Well Endels believe their kintypes is routed in delusions. What I don't understand, however, is if you acknowledge something is a delusion... Is it still a delusion? I mean we say these people are delusional, but are they still delusional if they use "delusions" as one of their scout badges of autism?

Here is a carrd explaining Endels. - (Archive 7/9/21)
Here is the Endel tumblr blog. - (Archive 7/9/21)

Also I want to hear what fellow kiwis think of this statement:

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This has to just be a munchie thing, right? That's all I can think of.

This reminds me of the whole "delusional attachment" thing where people start claiming they had "delusional attachments" toward people/fictional characters and how you should "never reality check them" aka tell them it's a delusion because that's abliest. Aka, a bunch of people yet again glamorizing mental illness and spreading misinformation about it that can literally get people killed. But who cares, amirite? Who cares if that mentally ill person who thinks they are a Youtuber kills themselves or the Youtuber in question due to their delusions.
Yeah fuck these people. Hope they all die lol. Desperate saps who think what gender and self dx mental problem they have = a personality.

People who are delusional don't know they have a delusional only if/later they recover from said delusional- meaning until after they stop having one. And they hate bringing up their past delusions considering how shameful and embarrassing it feels. That is to say, if they ever recover from it at all. A lot die. From their own hands or even by attacking others.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Hm. Well, I know a bit on the subject, though.
It seems they consider themselves different than psychological kin, who view their identities as linked to their mental states. (A lot of kin seem to also fall under the spectrum, which could connect to said identity in a sensory type way)

However, they don't straight call it a delusion, like these do. Something about calling it that is... odd, and offputting. I think something becomes a delusion if it starts negatively interfering in one's daily life.




Do not question where I get my information. Fuck you

 

[Solid Snek]

I found this nugget of gold on tumblr. I know it’s most probably a troll, but it’s just to funny to pass up.

I'm actually not sure that's a troll. I've never heard of someone kinning clothing, but there's definitely a small but active fetish community of people who want to turn into clothing. That first paragraph, especially, reads like a classic Clothing TF story on DeviantArt.

It might be a troll - it's too well-written, and uses too many flowery, fancyass words to have been written by somebody with a raging erection. But I wouldn't be surprised if it's real, either. There's a ton of weirdos on DA and Tumblr who get off on the idea of being clothes; would be fairly simple to take that one step further, and actually convince themselves they ARE clothes.

 

[Itterasshai]

I have found an interesting example of somebody who appears mentally stable and intelligent but very invested in the otherkin and plural woo (Twitter, Tumblr, site).

Spoiler: Long FAQs.

 

[Elim Garak]

Random otherkin stuff found on tumblr

That never happened

 

[Butt Pluck]

Otherkins are among the most annoying fucks in any fandom. They're often control freaks, too. Especially fictionkins who'll get really anal about their favorite character, pretending like they have exclusive rights because "I was that in muh past life! So I know more about this character than any other fan or the creator!"
What I find almost worse is the current culture around them that these retarded mouth breathers need to be supported or at the very least be left alone instead of telling them they are retarded, delusional fucks and bullying them back into the hugboxes and obscurity they crawled out from. All the degenerative make-believe trans shit falls into that, too.
No, you are not sharing a soul with Anakin from Star Wars. No, you are not a wolf on the inside. No, you are not the opposite gender of what you were born with. Get real.

 

[Elim Garak]

If you are that mad about this stuff, you should check out the Social Justice and extremes art thread. This shit is super tame compared to most of the stuff that comes out of fandoms.

 

[Charles P. Scene]

Here's #kin call shit. It's a tag for otherkin and fictives to find members of the same media as them, the same canon/timeline as theirs, and others of the same kin-type.

I'm concerned about this being a method of finding children to groom/adults to roleplay with, but that might be a stretch.

 

[Calamity]

Here's #kin call shit. It's a tag for otherkin and fictives to find members of the same media as them, the same canon/timeline as theirs, and others of the same kin-type.
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I'm concerned about this being a method of finding children to groom/adults to roleplay with, but that might be a stretch.

Honestly, the last one is totally not much of a stretch in the grooming case. At least not intentionally. It reeks of "I'm an autistic minor who expresses myself through identifying with a character in media who is young and hangs out with an old dude, want to be my old dude?" In which case, I can see a lot of things going bad there.

Twitter and Tumblr minors have a great history of being way too uncomfortably open with their sexuality and desires. Take that mnsfwtwt tag that is trending right now as an example. As long as it's other minors (or people who 'say' they are), then they seem to have no issues being unapologetically coombrained.

A lot of the other ones just sound like your usual delusions, which is funny because of that Dio one saying "I know it's just a delusional attachment". Oddly self aware, yet still taking it serious enough to feel uncomfortable with doubles.

Since I want to contribute and not just ramble, I should have posted this here instead of Furry general.

Spoiler: guy is anxious about new 'lycanthropy' movie, messages movie creator

 

[Gravy Seal]

Here's #kin call shit. It's a tag for otherkin and fictives to find members of the same media as them, the same canon/timeline as theirs, and others of the same kin-type.

Something about how you phrased this and your familiarity with the terminology blows your cover as one of these autistic fucks.

 

[Charles P. Scene]

Something about how you phrased this and your familiarity with the terminology blows your cover as one of these autistic fucks.

Knowing the terminology is how you get better finds in communities that have their own autistic languages. But maybe I am fucking autistic for picking up any terminology from otherkin/system threads.

 

[Shitted Scaredless]

Something about how you phrased this and your familiarity with the terminology blows your cover as one of these autistic fucks.

You say that like everyone on this site isn't something we make threads on.

 

[Kung Pow Cream]

Hello fellow Kiwis, I have certainly found... Something.
There's a new underground kin community called "Endels". What sets Endels separate from standard otherkin? Well Endels believe their kintypes is routed in delusions. What I don't understand, however, is if you acknowledge something is a delusion... Is it still a delusion? I mean we say these people are delusional, but are they still delusional if they use "delusions" as one of their scout badges of autism?

Here is a carrd explaining Endels. - (Archive 7/9/21)
Here is the Endel tumblr blog. - (Archive 7/9/21)

Also I want to hear what fellow kiwis think of this statement:

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This has to just be a munchie thing, right? That's all I can think of.

I came to this thread because I had just discovered endels and was curious if this had popped up in the farms. As for what counts as a delusion, it's actually more complicated than you think. Your brain can be broken in a way that you can understand that your thought processes are incorrect but your brain will still continue to think those thoughts. For example, someone with depression can understand that their self defeating thoughts are harming their life but their brain may still continue to produce those thoughts because those thoughts are a result of a chemical imbalance in the brain.

I like to use this example when talking about delusions: let's say you have a neighbor you barely talk to. You've only talked to them a few times and they're socially distant and avoidant. However, even though they're socially inept, you see people come to their house but you never see those people return. And when it's trash day in the neighborhood, sometimes you see a strange liquid seeping out of their trashbags. A fleeting thought that may come into your mind is "Is my neighbor a serial killer?". The issue comes down to whether you think the information you have observed is important enough to act out upon and the weight of the importance is where delusion comes from.

In a situation similar to someone who is an endel, the observer simply says "I have a large suspicion that my neighbor is a serial killer but I'm not going to call the cops because I understand that the thought is silly. I am simply going to live my life with these beliefs in my head." These people are probably functioning in society but are still have these delusions running in the back of their head. Functioning psychotics who experience delusions have this as their daily life.

As to say what this is exactly, this is people simply being more honest than regular otherkin and recognizing that part of their brain is broken at the least or people accidentally indulging in their delusions too much at the most. Just because they recognize a delusion as a a delusion doesn't mean they understand not to indulge such thoughts and thus that can cause some issues.

 

[Dr. Octogonapus]

I came to this thread because I had just discovered endels and was curious if this had popped up in the farms. As for what counts as a delusion, it's actually more complicated than you think. Your brain can be broken in a way that you can understand that your thought processes are incorrect but your brain will still continue to think those thoughts. For example, someone with depression can understand that their self defeating thoughts are harming their life but their brain may still continue to produce those thoughts because those thoughts are a result of a chemical imbalance in the brain.

I like to use this example when talking about delusions: let's say you have a neighbor you barely talk to. You've only talked to them a few times and they're socially distant and avoidant. However, even though they're socially inept, you see people come to their house but you never see those people return. And when it's trash day in the neighborhood, sometimes you see a strange liquid seeping out of their trashbags. A fleeting thought that may come into your mind is "Is my neighbor a serial killer?". The issue comes down to whether you think the information you have observed is important enough to act out upon and the weight of the importance is where delusion comes from.

In a situation similar to someone who is an endel, the observer simply says "I have a large suspicion that my neighbor is a serial killer but I'm not going to call the cops because I understand that the thought is silly. I am simply going to live my life with these beliefs in my head." These people are probably functioning in society but are still have these delusions running in the back of their head. Functioning psychotics who experience delusions have this as their daily life.

As to say what this is exactly, this is people simply being more honest than regular otherkin and recognizing that part of their brain is broken at the least or people accidentally indulging in their delusions too much at the most. Just because they recognize a delusion as a a delusion doesn't mean they understand not to indulge such thoughts and thus that can cause some issues.

I'm still on the fence about this. I understand what you're saying, but I still believe that would fall under the guise of rumination or an obsessive thought. Here is a paper from the Industrial Psychiatry Journal that backs up my claim. Of course this is a bit dated so maybe the definition has changed. But my understanding is that delusion = A thought that no matter how contradictory to reality, is believed fully vs. something such as a ruminating thought or an obessesive or intrusive thought = A thought that is brought up frequently and causes anxiety. In OCD, patients can recognize their thoughts are irrational, but because of the anxiety they cause, they still have to follow them.

Your example, thinking the neighbor is a serial killer because of a leaking trash bag, could go both ways. On one hand, the person could believe that whole heartedly and have no doubt the neighbor is a serial killer, that would be a delusion. If the person thinks the neighbor is a serial killer, but is on the fence about it (Understand that the thought is silly, as you put it), I'd say that this would fall under an anxious or maybe even intrusive thought. It causes the person anxiety, maybe even severe, but if they know that it's probably irrational, then I wouldn't consider it paranoia.

But still, I'm not an expert by any means. Just some guy with an interest in psychiatry. Feel free to tell me what you think. I'd love to hear it, because this is stuff I've always just spit-balled on and never got to really discuss.

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[Kung Pow Cream]

I'm still on the fence about this. I understand what you're saying, but I still believe that would fall under the guise of rumination or an obsessive thought. Here is a paper from the Industrial Psychiatry Journal that backs up my claim. Of course this is a bit dated so maybe the definition has changed. But my understanding is that delusion = A thought that no matter how contradictory to reality, is believed fully vs. something such as a ruminating thought or an obessesive or intrusive thought = A thought that is brought up frequently and causes anxiety. In OCD, patients can recognize their thoughts are irrational, but because of the anxiety they cause, they still have to follow them.

Your example, thinking the neighbor is a serial killer because of a leaking trash bag, could go both ways. On one hand, the person could believe that whole heartedly and have no doubt the neighbor is a serial killer, that would be a delusion. If the person thinks the neighbor is a serial killer, but is on the fence about it (Understand that the thought is silly, as you put it), I'd say that this would fall under an anxious or maybe even intrusive thought. It causes the person anxiety, maybe even severe, but if they know that it's probably irrational, then I wouldn't consider it paranoia.

But still, I'm not an expert by any means. Just some guy with an interest in psychiatry. Feel free to tell me what you think. I'd love to hear it, because this is stuff I've always just spit-balled on and never got to really discuss.

Edit: A word.

The issue that I am seeing in your thought processes is that you say delusion is a thought is believed and an obsessive or intrusive thought is something that is brought up that gives you anxiety. However, you need to understand that delusions are thoughts that are, like you said, believed by the person. Due to it being believed, the thought will rise to the surface during their daily life and will often be brought to their mind. And it's not because it is an intrusive thought but rather that they have often deemed unimportant observations to have meaning behind it. It's also important to remember that delusions don't have to give the person distress. A big example on this is delusions of grandeur or if we go back to endels, a person who simply believes they aren't human. It doesn't have to cause paranoia or bad reactions. They simply are unable to fully connect with reality.

Psychotic people with the help of outside influences such as therapists and loved ones and the usage of medication have the ability to recognize that certain thoughts are delusions but will still have these thoughts because, like I said, it's a chemical imbalance in the brain.

To go back to the neighbor analogy, the functioning psychotic is supposed to say ""I have a strong belief that this is true. However, I understand that the thought is highly unlikely and, therefore, most likely irrational. I am simply going to live my life with these beliefs in my head and not acting out on these beliefs." They will try to go on with their daily life.

Again, it's very similar to other mental illnesses in the sense that you can recognize thoughts are not good for your overall wellness but you will continue to have them. For example, someone with social anxiety will often have to process and try to ignore anxious thoughts about social situations. People with depression often have to deal with depressive thoughts but will still try to function as well.