Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

This makes a lot of sense since in the Capital Punishment stream around 42:45 someone asked Olly where he would like to go on holiday after lockdown and he says something like "I do miss America... there's two readings of that sentence, one which is sadly not true".
So why was he quoting his oh dear old friend on January but suddenly doesn't miss him anymore on March?
Isn't this just a joke about how he's not 'doing Miss America'?
Meh, I personally don't buy it. The person makes so many wild claims that don't really sit right in my brain. Claiming to have "secret info" is the best way to get attention whenever people are theorizing about online figures.
Agree - I thought it was PT himself for the first couple of posts but the age-regressing Yu-Gi-Oh stuff is too much. They're either a troll that's a bit more subtle than most or a genuine crazy person. Or it is Olly and he's finally cracked lol.
 
Agree - I thought it was PT himself for the first couple of posts but the age-regressing Yu-Gi-Oh stuff is too much. They're either a troll that's a bit more subtle than most or a genuine crazy person. Or it is Olly and he's finally cracked lol.
If it's Olly he's lying to try to convince /tttt/ to stop harassing him, framing the rape "theory" as a TERF psyop to get the troons to stop giving it attention and also playing up his poor mental health because most troons on /tttt/ can sympathize. However, I don't think it's him mostly because it's so laughable. The only thing that really made me think it could be him was the "walking dildo" comment because it's believable that Nyk would say something like that.
 

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I was going back and forth on posting this for a bit, but in light of Olly's rant about how this thread is akin to true crime forums full of autistic amateur detectives trying to piece together what little information they have in order to solve a murder, I figured I might as well. I mean, hey, at least theorizing about "secret juicy drama" will get "better engagement" (because that's apparently something KF users care about, not just Olly projecting).
Now allow me to continue our riveting theorizing on whether Creator A and Creator B are no longer friends because Creator B is just such an overwhelmingly autogynephilic freak, or if Creator B got butt-hurt over Creator A telling them that their gender identity isn't valid- again because they're an autogynephilic freak.
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I don't trust anything from /tttt/, but it isn't often that you see someone on there defending Olly (unless they're obvious trolls dropping the word 'libelous' every single post). This individual claims to be someone close to Olly that is concerned about his (and Nyk's) mental health. What they say both actually seems plausible and seems like it could've been written by Olly in an attempt to defend himself. Again it's from /tttt/ so it's hard to draw any conclusions, but I found it interesting.
Here's the thread link.
The user types like Olly, and he’s got no problem wading in with burners so it’s possible. The long game seems to be muddying the water enough to save face for his fans. The /tttt/ theory is the part picking up steam so it makes sense that’s what gets damage control. The comical yu-gi-oh part sells the whole post as obviously bait distraction regardless of authorship anyway

Olly being in the mental state of a toddler due to /tttt/ related trauma would explain his last video being such dogshit though
 
Was that trip “early in their relationship?”
Yeah that was when they first met up, Olly flew out to L.A. for Vidcon 2018. Here is the @Nykysnottrans (please come back Nykys we miss you!) timeline of their relationship. They did a livestream together on June 17th of 2018, a week before the Vidcon/Disneyland trip. According to extranny456, their relationship was from late 2018-late 2019. Extranny456 seemed certain of this and claimed it had been "confirmed" earlier in this thread, despite the timeline being mostly speculation. Again pointing to extranny456 being Olly imo.
 
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Olly: NOOOO don't speculate about what happened between me and Natalie!!!
Also Olly: Yeah so I can't go back to Disneyland because I went there with Natalie once and we fucked for the first time right after.
(archive, archive)
Oh good god. I really didn’t want thdoofus to be “chad”

human dildo lol

Also — what was with the request by CP for fans to stop “shipping” the two of them because it makes them uncomfy? When they actually were in fact dating…. More lying to “fans”

so manipulative
 
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Olly appears to be living in extremely online tranny world yet again with this one, I can find only one example of what could tenuously be called a political refugee from the UK, and that was someone in New Zealand who somehow was granted asylum because people were mean to him about being trans, I may have missed something, but I cannot find any other cases. He's more bothered by trans issues in the UK than people who were living under genuinely oppressive regimes and the like.
 
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Olly appears to be living in extremely online tranny world yet again with this one, I can find only one example of what could tenuously be called a political refugee from the UK, and that was someone in New Zealand who somehow was granted asylum because people were mean to him about being trans, I may have missed something, but I cannot find any other cases. He's more bothered by trans issues in the UK than people who were living under genuinely oppressive regimes and the like.
I assumed he meant the UK is creating them by meddling in the Middle East or other third world countries.

But yeah he still has the retard tumblr politics of a 12 year old boy.
 
imagine picking this question to answer. it’s so desperate man, get over it. pining about a relationship that couldn’t have been more than a few months in total (i’m not interested in the autistic timelines, it washes over me..well, under me)

Edit - weird question in the first place, tbh...again looks like, to a very suspicious person, a self asked one. Leaving aside that unprovable stuff tho - I assume whoever asked it would want his philosophical/political take on it - which in fairness, there is mountains of material to work with. But no, just a usual, how can i take this (potentially vast) topic and point it directly back at myself.? Literally every question has been answered like that so far.
Someone here who can be bothered / has tumblr should send one in and experiment to see what the most extraneous thing he can turn into an ode to himself is.
 
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This might be Olly's "girl"friend??? Olly mentioned in a previous livestream that he would maybe want to move to Seattle if he had to move to the U.S. Not going to draw any conclusions though since I can't account for "unknowns" and "coincidences", and this could just be a friend.
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Some tweets that kinda hint to a relationship below. Keep in mind that Olly has complained about how his girlfriend can't fly out to see him because of COVID restrictions.
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Olly: NOOOO don't speculate about what happened between me and Natalie!!!
Also Olly: Yeah so I can't go back to Disneyland because I went there with Natalie once and we fucked for the first time right after.
(archive, archive)

"Tee hee oh yeah I went to Disneyland and *insert vague GF drama tinged with regret*"
"Oh but no names or other details so it can be mysterious"

Pro tip, if you are discussing visits to a place overseas that you've likely been to once, remember that you were there with 4 other YouTube/internet personalities who have thus tweeted fuckloads of pictures and memories that can and will be used by naughty kiwi farmers against you.
 
Claire Michelle is a post OP trans woman who vlogged about her GRS on the tubes. She seems totally mentally unstable in many of her videos tbh. But she looks like a model. She has that heroin-chic of the 90s. Isn't it hilarious btw how PT complains about the speculation on their personal life while spoon feeding us vague yet juicy details?
 
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I transcribed and reuploaded Tube's Legendary Speech at Trans Pride:
SISTERS, and my non binary comrades. I am honored to speak to you on what is in fact my very first pride. The organizers got to me by assuming that I can tell you anything you don't already know - many of you are a lot wiser and more experienced than me. You have to excuse me, if I speak plainly, and to the purpose, I'm not an activist, or a great leader, or a great speaker, I'm just an actress. but Truth is, that I'm scared to speak up on something like this, cause I don't know whether I'm gonna have an acting career tomorrow, if I tell the truth about what it's like to be Trans in this country. But The truth is and you don't need me to tell you, it's pretty HARD. And that's not cause of "toxic debates", it's not because of social media, and it sure as FUCK isn't about CANCEL CULTURE. It's BECAUSE LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY we are not allowed to control our own lives. There is a WORD for how that makes me feel, the word is humiliated. When my doctor REFUSES to treat me, and makes me use a segregated health care system, I am humiliated. When I am forced to beg and scrape for permission to get married from the government's gender recognition panel, I AM HUMILIATED. When I, am thrown to the concrete by an officer of the metropolitan police for daring to protest the Government that inflict these indignities, and that officer was wearing a RAINBOW PRIDE BADGE. I. AM. HUMILIATED. It is the feeling that control over your life has been taken away from you, you do not need me to tell you, we are not the only people in this country who feel that way. But, But, there is something else isn't there? There is something else that has brought all of us here today, despite the difficulties that cis people inflict on us, I don't think that being Trans is a burden. I don't think that being Trans is a curse. I think . . . it's a gift. There is POWERRRR IN THIS!!!!!! TO TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE, TO REACH DOWN INTO YOUR OWN CELLS AND TAKE POSSESSION OF THEM - TO NAME YOUR-SELF! TO TAKE YOUR DESTINY BY THE SCRUFF OF THE NECK AND SAY "NO GOD DAMNIT, INTO THE LIST THIS IS MY LIFE AND I WILL BE THE MISTRESS OF IT" I REMEMBER THAT DAY - *MIC CUTS OUT* I REMEMBER - wewillnotbesilenced... even by me! I remember the first day when I realized who and what I am, I remember that FEELING LIKE THE CLOUDS HAD PARTED AND THE HAND OF GOD HAD COME DOWN, A FEELING THAT MANY OF YOU NO DOUBT HAVE SHARED, SINCE THAT DAY, I HAVE FELT E LEC TRICITY IN MY BLOOD. AND I HAVE FELT A, A PA-SSION, A PASSION THAT OUT BURNS THE SUN! IT IS THE DESIRE TO LIVE, IT IS THE DESIRE TO TAKE CONTROL, I LOOK AT THESE FACES NOW, AND I DON'T SEE HUMILIATED VICTIMS, or timid creatures, I SEE LIONS, I SEE TIGERS, I SEE THE REAL KINGS AND QUEENS OF THIS COUNTRY I see the hope in a hopeless country, I see the harbingers of a new world, that struggles to be born and is proud to come out. The women and equalities ministry, "Liz truss" "She says she wants Trans people to live with dignity" "FUCK THAT BITCH, FUCK THAT BITCH, FUCK THAT BITCH- audience" I've got dignity coming out of my ass. I don't want pity, I don't want condescension or charity, I don't even want visibility and representation. I want control over my own GODDAMN LIFE. THAT IS AN AMBITION WORTH PROUD OF! THAT - IS WHY WE SAY....TRANS POWER! TRANS POWER! TRANS POWER!

MC: MAKE SOME NOISE FOR ABIGAIL THORN EVERYBODY!
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The Virgin "The Beauty Myth by Naomi Wolf" vs. The Chad "Beauty and Misogyny by Sheila Jeffreys" (strongly recommend)
Ugh why did he cite Simone de Beauvoir's The Second Sex with a French title? It's so pretentious, and he didn't bother citing Foucault as Surveiller Et Punir or Kant as Kritik der reinen Vernunft.
 
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