How does the Motherfucking Saga change your view on past Chris content? - Self help group of victims of Autism

Can you enjoy past Chris?

  • Yes, fuck Barb

    Votes: 380 27.5%
  • No, Incest is the line for me

    Votes: 111 8.0%
  • I am sad.

    Votes: 891 64.5%

  • Total voters
    1,382
It's like watching child pictures of serial killers. They look innocent, but you know they are doomed to become monsters. Same goes here - I will never stop laughing at Chris telling Matthew "you've just crossed the line, sir" or him getting owned by a man in a pickle suit, but in the back of my head I will have this thought "this guy isn't just some harmless retard".
 
everything before he went all tranny is funny now and will always be funny
This is how I feel. Everything prior to his house burning he was just a funny over sharing autist who was constantly doing something retarded. Everything after that was depressing, disgusting and no longer fun to follow.

I stopped paying attention after he uploaded that buffalo bill dance.
 
I wish someone less apathetic than me would create a timeline showing how and when Chris switched from older women being unacceptable to dismissing getting together with a cute-ish girl who was actually trying in favor of continuing with Barb. He used to be so adamant about finding a boyfriend-free girl 18-(current age), and he seemed to be okay with following the "dumb laws". Over the years obviously so many things changed, and in hindsight you can see this coming from those random comments about Barb, but reading classic era Chris stuff you feel like he would've vomited at the idea of banging an 80-year-old even if they weren't related.
 
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Chris has been coming in and out of my sphere of interest for the best part of ten years. I'd forget or lose interest for a few months to a year and then have a catch up of sorts.

I thought it would be his gradual reckless behaviour and belief in interdimensional nonsense that would get him locked up, going from stalking the manager, running him over to spraying the GameStop employee. I always thought he'd end up physically harming someone and get locked up, go cold turkey and recover or something.

There is absolutely no recovery from this for him, in any way, shape or form. He's snapped and will probably be institutionalised when it goes to court.
 
I feel the best quote to sum everything up is "hindsight is 20/20" looking back at Chris, classic and modern, the signs this could happen where indeed always there and are quite glaring now even though at the time it didn't seem likely, though looking back it could also be us trying to think it couldn't happen, it doesn't ruin my experience with going back and reading the cwcki and looking at old Chris content but it is also so new I think many of us are still somewhat in shock, I know I am, so time will be the biggest teller with this
 
I kinda hate everything after he went tranny, so current Chris is like a tv show i used to enjoy that overstayed and became infected with LGBTQ bullshit and now i hate it and just want it to be cancelled and die...
Went Woke, Go Broke.
 
I wish someone less apathetic with me would create a timeline showing how and when Chris switched from older women being unacceptable to dismissing getting together with a cute-ish girl who was actually trying in favor of continuing with Barb. He used to be so adamant about finding a boyfriend-free girl 18-(current age), and he seemed to be okay with following the "dumb laws". Over the years obviously so many things changed, and in hindsight you can see this coming from those random comments about Barb, but reading classic era Chris stuff you feel like he would've vomited at the idea of banging an 80-year-old even if they weren't related.
Well, I am not going to make one, but you can start with Bob's death. I will never stop giving him shit for not taking Chris's illness with all seriousness, but in the end he kept Chris in check. Not in a sense that he was watching his every step, but in a sense that Chris was afraid to fuck up real bad and make him angry. That's why Chris went tomboy only when Bob was one foot in the grave and couldn't do much beyond calling him a fag.
 
I thought that the problem was going to be in the other direction age wise. Not that this is an improvement, mind you.
 
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I can't stop thinking about extended family members and neighbors and how guilty they just feel. No details because I don't want to PL, but a pretty tragic event happened in my neighborhood growing up that was of a similar nature to this and it left me fucked up basically my entire young adulthood. It's all fun and games for distant observers, but it's too hard for me to stop thinking about how guilty neighbors and family members must feel over this. I spent a lot of my late teens and early 20s wondering what I could have done differently, or thinking about instances where I had a gut feeling something was wrong but chose not to act on it.

Right now I'm mostly just keeping up to hear the good news about whatever sentence he's going to get long term. None of this is fun anymore. I just want his family and his neighbors to be okay and for him to go to jail for a long long time.
 
I can't stop thinking about extended family members and neighbors and how guilty they just feel. No details because I don't want to PL, but a pretty tragic event happened in my neighborhood growing up that was of a similar nature to this and it left me fucked up basically my entire young adulthood. It's all fun and games for distant observers, but it's too hard for me to stop thinking about how guilty neighbors and family members must feel over this. I spent a lot of my late teens and early 20s wondering what I could have done differently, or thinking about instances where I had a gut feeling something was wrong but chose not to act on it.

Right now I'm mostly just keeping up to hear the good news about whatever sentence he's going to get long term. None of this is fun anymore. I just want his family and his neighbors to be okay and for him to go to jail for a long long time.
If his extended family knows about this, they're probably thinking something along the lines of "white trash will be white trash, thank God we cut contact years ago." I was legitimately surprised when I saw that Chris had been invited to stay with family after he got kicked out of 14BC, since Barb's family apparently refused to call, write, or visit because they thought she was a garbage person. The only exception was Aunt Corrina, and after she died there is no evidence of anyone else in Barb's family ever trying to contact the Chandler household. Same goes for Bob's side of the family. His kids cut themselves off to the point that Bob didn't know he was a grandfather until his granddaughter was nine years old, and what little contact Chris and Barb had with them appears to have ended after Bob's death.
 
Him fucking Barb was not something that I expected, but I'm hardly surprised. He's always been depressing to watch because he's a retard. I pity him and really hope that they just send Chris to a retard ranch where he can color and play with Legos until he dies.

I just hope that they can prove he genuinely thought he was helping Barb and that it wasn't some grimdark perverted shit. I can't bring myself to hate the guy. I don't want to hate the guy.
 
For those of you who voted Yes in the poll, what would it take for Chris to sour your memories?
Didn't vote, but I would if not for the 'fuck Barb' part, so I can answer this.

Honestly? I don't know. The thing is that the Chris-Chan from the videos is a 'character' to me; someone about as real as Santa Claus, even though both are derived from real figures [Christian Weston Chandler and St. Nicholas for this example]. Sonichu is a ridiculous comic book written by an autistic nerd who portrayed his life in a hilariously disturbed light for half a decade, before decaying into a far more abused and boring storyline about how our Gary Stu protagonist is actually a gay-ass horse and also has fake tits because of listening to YouTube videos. People took some of these ideas and made a stupid-ass series of animated videos about Sonichu being a gay abuser and Chris getting humiliated constantly, and so on.

Chris-Chan the 'character' is a joke. Christian Weston Chandler the person is a tragedy. But I don't think I've been able to feel bad for Chris in the last decade because he's a fucking dumbass who's always done the wrong thing whenever possible, who lacks the empathy to understand that hurting people is wrong, and while I wouldn't be a Bluespike and take enjoyment on the loss of his father or the burning of his house or even the increasing loss of sanity, what already is there didn't change to me at all.

I guess I just don't pity him right now and want to see everyone - himself, Barb, the Idea Guys and troons, Bella's dumbasses, etc. - get the karmic punishment they deserve. Barb obviously didn't deserve rape but being kept away from the son she loved and her hoard might as well be the equivalent. The ride's coming to an end, so might as well crash the train and let it all burn down and keep the memories.
 
For those of you who voted Yes in the poll, what would it take for Chris to sour your memories?

Something that would Psychologically have to relate to the past. I already have tried watching clips on youtube of Classic Chris content and it only seems weird now in regards to his parents showing up (The Christmas 2004 video is going to be hard to watch now). However Troon Chris is different than Classic Chris in my mind or even "Goddess Chris". I could probably still watch "Don't Call anyone!" and laugh.

For Chris to be completely soured it would have to be something extreme like kidnapping Megan to try bring Crystal into this world so the Dimension merge happens. Something that is so horrific that you can tie directly to those old memories and would lead up to now. Something that is completely out of his power to do.

I wish someone less apathetic than me would create a timeline showing how and when Chris switched from older women being unacceptable to dismissing getting together with a cute-ish girl who was actually trying in favor of continuing with Barb. He used to be so adamant about finding a boyfriend-free girl 18-(current age), and he seemed to be okay with following the "dumb laws". Over the years obviously so many things changed, and in hindsight you can see this coming from those random comments about Barb, but reading classic era Chris stuff you feel like he would've vomited at the idea of banging an 80-year-old even if they weren't related.

I can offer a decent explanation, Chris had to settle. Normally when you're younger, you have a romanticized and idealized version of the person or the type of person you want to be with. You have an idealized version of love. Originally Chris wanted a girlfriend because it was supposed to happen. Then when that didn't happen, the love quest began to complete this life quest. From there a timeline can be set as such:

- Failing to win Megan's heart.

This was the first time the cartoon version of reality failed. She was his best friend, had the same interests, spent a lot of time with him in their free time, and they worked on stuff together. In all storybooks she would be the natural choice but this failed in every possible way. So he then branched out to a non-fairy tale approach but still idealized form of it in impressing women with his talent and nothing else.

- Gal-Pal Sagas

Primarily Ivy and Kacey. With Blanca, Julie and Emily, Chris still believed in fairy tale shit but they weren't as natural as Megan and not much a shift in focus, more a transitionary period. Ivy and Kacey he attempted to win over with Sonichu and he believed it was succeeding. He told Clyde Cash after the Hooker Incident that it wasn't about sex but about love. Regardless of his actions, he believed he could get a girlfriend and maintain a relationship. His complete failure at improving himself slightly at their behest and pissing them off, realized he wasn't good at this. So he moved on to the next portion

- Slut Era

This starts with the first exile (or jackie I can't remember which started earlier). This is a period of time where Chris became obsessed with the concept of being a piece of meat as a means to entice women, with his overt sexual t-shirts, videos and attitudes. Granted he did it in a feminine way and put zero effort in actually looking attractive but he figured if he couldn't cut it as a good boyfriend, he could at least be a walking sex toy with "a LOT of hidden potential". This marks the beginning of the decline. He no longer looked at relationships like a human anymore, and aside from sexualizing himself, began to do things like freezing his own semen. This went on until around 2015. He began to be socialized more, rediscovered and reinvented himself, attend conventions and meet people with similar interests. This then transition into a bit of a reform in his thinking for a brief period.

- Loveless dating attempts

With his sex drive gone down due to age and HRT, losing his virginity and his socialization going up, it seemed like he might have been learning a bit. He then made the disastrous attempt at going after Doopie and then later "dating" Quinn. These were less lust or romantically driven though there were some elements of both in them, they weren't the main focus. Chris liked Doopie because he thought she was pretty, thought she drew porn because she was obsessed with it like him, and was part of a project he liked. So he thought he had a chance, but that failed and he flipped out. Then he thought "fuck it, I'll date Quinn, I know her well enough." and dated her but he didn't really care, he more so stroked his own ego for "predicting Lovely Weather" and not ending up single. He thought all the socializing meant that he should find success from going after women in his circles but it was all for naught. Then came.

- The Idea Guys

Nothing much to say here other than they convinced him to date his imaginary characters who could never say no and never reject him. Walling his heart from rejection. At this point I think he had given up on female affection as his grasp of reality started to collapse. I think he would have had a chance to maybe date a starfucker since he was gaining some popularity/notoriety at conventions and whatnot. COVID also fucked him over since that stuff started picking up in 2019 but by then he had long checked out. Nothing had meaning anymore, this world is fake and a better world in another Dimension existed where he was king with a harem. It has to be true right? Jacking it to your imaginary characters sufficed right?

- Big Dumb Ending

So here we are at the big dumb ending, of not only my post but Chris' love life. Driven by a nihilist view of this current reality lacking meaning, following what his heart says, consent being the only thing that could stop any lust that remains, a vulnerable old woman laid in his house. A vulnerable old woman in his care that can't say no. It longed stop being about love, it now was energy that needed to be released, not to fictional characters, plastic or silicon but to a person. His descent into depravity wasn't a choice made by desperation, ego, companionship or acceptance but of a cold almost insect like desire to breed. He was Ying and needed to deposit into a Yang that could consent as that was the laws of his mental universe now. I don't believe he even saw her as a person, just a lump of flesh that had a vagina.

My Conclusion and why I decided to write this autistic effort post is that this whole situation is fucked up and I've seen a lot of people trying to understand why, myself included. Some claiming the signs were "all there" or "he was always this way" but I think he became this way do to life. This ending wasn't set in stone and I don't blame the trolls because they offered him equal opportunities as torments. Had he changed himself to be Boyfriend Material, he might have had a shot. If he changed himself to be a himbo for women and focused entirely on his body and appearance, acted semi-masculine, some girl may have had him as a side piece. After having been re-socialized a bit, if he took a mature approach to dating, and grew up a bit, he couldhave avoided the idea guy shit, cleaned himself up and dated a fangirl, striped polo and all. He didn't though, he failed and retreated into the darkest recesses of his mind. All the people I mentioned above or situations were all tests that he failed to learn from.

I think when you look over Chris' attempt at a lovelife, you can see a change in mindset and how Love Quest turned to Fuck Quest which turned to just Fuck. It didn't have to end this way, this is the ending Chris chose.
 
Nah. They’re codependent and entirely inappropriate relationship was already emotionally incestuous, the fact that it moved to being physically incestuous was a monster of both their own creation.
 
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Something that would Psychologically have to relate to the past. I already have tried watching clips on youtube of Classic Chris content and it only seems weird now in regards to his parents showing up (The Christmas 2004 video is going to be hard to watch now). However Troon Chris is different than Classic Chris in my mind or even "Goddess Chris". I could probably still watch "Don't Call anyone!" and laugh.

For Chris to be completely soured it would have to be something extreme like kidnapping Megan to try bring Crystal into this world so the Dimension merge happens. Something that is so horrific that you can tie directly to those old memories and would lead up to now. Something that is completely out of his power to do.



I can offer a decent explanation, Chris had to settle. Normally when you're younger, you have a romanticized and idealized version of the person or the type of person you want to be with. You have an idealized version of love. Originally Chris wanted a girlfriend because it was supposed to happen. Then when that didn't happen, the love quest began to complete this life quest. From there a timeline can be set as such:

- Failing to win Megan's heart.

This was the first time the cartoon version of reality failed. She was his best friend, had the same interests, spent a lot of time with him in their free time, and they worked on stuff together. In all storybooks she would be the natural choice but this failed in every possible way. So he then branched out to a non-fairy tale approach but still idealized form of it in impressing women with his talent and nothing else.

- Gal-Pal Sagas

Primarily Ivy and Kacey. With Blanca, Julie and Emily, Chris still believed in fairy tale shit but they weren't as natural as Megan and not much a shift in focus, more a transitionary period. Ivy and Kacey he attempted to win over with Sonichu and he believed it was succeeding. He told Clyde Cash after the Hooker Incident that it wasn't about sex but about love. Regardless of his actions, he believed he could get a girlfriend and maintain a relationship. His complete failure at improving himself slightly at their behest and pissing them off, realized he wasn't good at this. So he moved on to the next portion

- Slut Era

This starts with the first exile (or jackie I can't remember which started earlier). This is a period of time where Chris became obsessed with the concept of being a piece of meat as a means to entice women, with his overt sexual t-shirts, videos and attitudes. Granted he did it in a feminine way and put zero effort in actually looking attractive but he figured if he couldn't cut it as a good boyfriend, he could at least be a walking sex toy with "a LOT of hidden potential". This marks the beginning of the decline. He no longer looked at relationships like a human anymore, and aside from sexualizing himself, began to do things like freezing his own semen. This went on until around 2015. He began to be socialized more, rediscovered and reinvented himself, attend conventions and meet people with similar interests. This then transition into a bit of a reform in his thinking for a brief period.

- Loveless dating attempts

With his sex drive gone down due to age and HRT, losing his virginity and his socialization going up, it seemed like he might have been learning a bit. He then made the disastrous attempt at going after Doopie and then later "dating" Quinn. These were less lust or romantically driven though there were some elements of both in them, they weren't the main focus. Chris liked Doopie because he thought she was pretty, thought she drew porn because she was obsessed with it like him, and was part of a project he liked. So he thought he had a chance, but that failed and he flipped out. Then he thought "fuck it, I'll date Quinn, I know her well enough." and dated her but he didn't really care, he more so stroked his own ego for "predicting Lovely Weather" and not ending up single. He thought all the socializing meant that he should find success from going after women in his circles but it was all for naught. Then came.

- The Idea Guys

Nothing much to say here other than they convinced him to date his imaginary characters who could never say no and never reject him. Walling his heart from rejection. At this point I think he had given up on female affection as his grasp of reality started to collapse. I think he would have had a chance to maybe date a starfucker since he was gaining some popularity/notoriety at conventions and whatnot. COVID also fucked him over since that stuff started picking up in 2019 but by then he had long checked out. Nothing had meaning anymore, this world is fake and a better world in another Dimension existed where he was king with a harem. It has to be true right? Jacking it to your imaginary characters sufficed right?

- Big Dumb Ending

So here we are at the big dumb ending, of not only my post but Chris' love life. Driven by a nihilist view of this current reality lacking meaning, following what his heart says, consent being the only thing that could stop any lust that remains, a vulnerable old woman laid in his house. A vulnerable old woman in his care that can't say no. It longed stop being about love, it now was energy that needed to be released, not to fictional characters, plastic or silicon but to a person. His descent into depravity wasn't a choice made by desperation, ego, companionship or acceptance but of a cold almost insect like desire to breed. He was Ying and needed to deposit into a Yang that could consent as that was the laws of his mental universe now. I don't believe he even saw her as a person, just a lump of flesh that had a vagina.

My Conclusion and why I decided to write this autistic effort post is that this whole situation is fucked up and I've seen a lot of people trying to understand why, myself included. Some claiming the signs were "all there" or "he was always this way" but I think he became this way do to life. This ending wasn't set in stone and I don't blame the trolls because they offered him equal opportunities as torments. Had he changed himself to be Boyfriend Material, he might have had a shot. If he changed himself to be a himbo for women and focused entirely on his body and appearance, acted semi-masculine, some girl may have had him as a side piece. After having been re-socialized a bit, if he took a mature approach to dating, and grew up a bit, he couldhave avoided the idea guy shit, cleaned himself up and dated a fangirl, striped polo and all. He didn't though, he failed and retreated into the darkest recesses of his mind. All the people I mentioned above or situations were all tests that he failed to learn from.

I think when you look over Chris' attempt at a lovelife, you can see a change in mindset and how Love Quest turned to Fuck Quest which turned to just Fuck. It didn't have to end this way, this is the ending Chris chose.
At most, what I think one can argue is that there was probably a point where he shouldn't have been trolled, and people should have left him alone for good, so he could develop actual friendships and socialization and everything else. Yes, there were attempts, but unfortunately none of them lasted long enough and Chris also had the tendency to discard the people who tried doing help in exchange for those who made him feel good.

I don't think Chris should have never been trolled - horrible though the thought is, the dumbass coasted through life too long and it's not like trolling created the Blarms saga, for instance; that was his autism - but it shouldn't have reached the point where a stupid bint cheered his fucking his own mom because she outdid Bluespike.
 
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