NOVA
• Never expected Peanut to mediate her political disputes; isn't angry at Peanut for not getting between her and NEGZ' dispute
• She's not cozying up to Haydur Nation, she's simply never had an issue with anyone who she's interacted with. She disagrees with some things DCMG has done, voiced that to DCMG and left it at that.
• She's met with people "from that side of the fence" but that's just how it goes. But she's not riding their shit! She's not in their chat rooms!
• Now, she doesn't make Anti or Haydur commentary.
SHANNON
• She wrote NOTES, y'all. Much of this refers to Peanut's response livestream to the Nova-Shannon live
• First misconception promulgated by Peanut: that she and Shannon were great friends and Peanut was shocked, disappointed and hurt to learn Shannon called her a hypocrite. They DMed about drama but Shannon didn't view her as a close friend and wasn't even aware that she was a subscriber until Peanut contacted her. She only knows who Peanut is bc after Chuck's mugshot was released, Peanut DMed her to ask her to go live, apologized for calling her a racist (which Shannon didn't even know she'd done).
• She agreed to go live with Peanut and Peanut privated the live because Shannon talked shit about Yabba and DC, who Peanut was still friends with. Peanut claimed it was privated because she was smoking a joint and didn't want to get demonetized. Shannon rejects that as an obvious lie since no one can see you smoking weed when you're not on-screen. Peanut was "too pussy" to let any criticism of Yabba and DCMG on her platform while she was still in with them.
• Second misconception? That Charlie stole Peanut's content. Peanut only called Shannon racist to kiss up to HN and waited until the herd turned on Charlie before jumping the fence. She thinks it's laughable to say that Charlie stole Peanut's content and, either way, that was a petty reason to turn on Charlie and Haydur Nation.
• After she hooked Peanut up with Negz, she never heard from Peanut again.
• NOVA interjects: people ask why Nova didn't defend Peanut last time Shannon was on her live. Nova says she wasn't around when Shannon and Peanut were first engaging with one another. All she knows is when she started listening toPeanut, Peanut admitted that she'd bought into the narrative that Shannon was a racist so what Shannon was saying about their first interactions sounded plausible for her. Nova doesn't think it's her place to "correct someone's story."
• SHANNON: Being invited to go live with Peanut was a red flag. She later humiliated Peanut's audience members for calling her a racist because their apologies were false and if they believed she was racist back then then they must still believe it now. (These videos still seem to be privated on Shannon's channel). Peanut's audience members only apologized because they were "following the herd."
• On the question of how no one would know Nova but for Peanut and Nova owes Peanut her subscriber base: Shannon says it's also true no one would know Peanut but for Charlie Gold, ALR, NEGZ, etc.
• NOVA interjects again: She appreciates shoutouts but that doesn't make her beholden to agree with everything the person who shouts her out says. Nova kept her mouth shut and is only taking up the Peanut issue now that it's been raised again.
• SHANNON crosstalk: Charlie Gold practically gave Hussy two channels and now the Antis welcome him. So why is Hussy the only one allowed to "flip the script"? After Peanut's response to the Nova-Shannon live, Peanut DMed Nova but didn't go to Shannon to talk about it. Peanut acts like she wants to be ALR and FB's saviors, but she's just as nasty to HN as she was to ALR and FB and that's hypocritical. Shannon's not stupid! Peanut called her "toxic"!
NOTE: Peanut calling her "toxic" comes up over and over and over again. Shannon is boiling about it. She makes it her screenname on the stream:
NOVA
• Never said that Shannon was racist so she isn't sure why Peanut claims she was the one who persuaded her that Shannon wasn't racist. She never suggested she thought Shannon was racist on Peanut's livestream, she simply said she didn't know Shannon so she couldn't comment about whether or not she was racist.
• Her silence has allowed people to spin narratives.
SHANNON
• SHANNON interrupts to chimp out: Peanut could be here right now, but she's too pussy! Shannon didn't even remember Peanut subscribing to her; she remembers all her 2016 subscribers and their kids' names! Once she hooked Peanut up with Ron she never heard from her again and she doesn't owe her shit! The people who have talked about them on other platforms won't talk shit to her face. Everyone on both sides are all fucking sheep! That's all they are! Peanut can't take criticism! She brainwashes her followers! Called her toxic! Peanut tries to convince people why they're wrong and she's right; Shannon would never do that! Apparently Nova personally innovated the phrase "Keep the same energy" and everyone in this corner of the internet who uses that is a sheep!
• She got so many subscribers on her new channel overnight because Kiwi Farms leaked it. The Farms still watches her but there's nothing for Farmers to say because they've already said what there is to say: she's fat, a slob and a bum.
• She goes back to her notes but devolves into another chimpout: She called me toxic! So many people she's seen in other people's comments sections have said so too! As soon as she called Peanut out, people who knew her longer than they knew Peanut called her toxic too! How is simply saying Peanut's a hypocrite "toxic"!? That's "corny shit!"
• NOVA: "If you're going to use my personality when it suits you, then don't demonize me when it doesn't."
• SHANNON: You [Peanut] called me a racist for years! You can't handle me calling you a hypocrite?
BOTH
• They address the idea that the Shannon-Nova livestream the precipitated the fallout between them and NEGZ and Peanut was a conspiracy. There are two conspiracies:
- NEGZ said that Nova set Shannon up to agree with Gunt without knowing how odious the things Gunt said about him were. NOVA responds: We don't have that kind of friendship (SHANNON: "We're REAL friends!") and no one can tell Shannon what to think.
- Peanut said Nova was manipulated by Shannon to say things that make her look bad. Ostensibly, Shannon was jealous of Nova's success and wanted to undercut her and/or sow dissent. The response is a bit meandering.
• SHANNON: She'd seen a Gunt video for the first time the day before she went live with Nova and that's all she knew about her. She isn't on Twitter so doesn't know about that shit. She now thinks that Gunt is a vile, deplorable disgusting piece of shit. But she didn't know her back then. Shannon has always said Yabba was a POS for the things she said about Ron's kids; Peanut on the other hand did defend Yabba. If Shannon had known what Gunt had said about Ron's dead child, she'd never have even watched the first video. Nova's chat brought it up during that stream and asked her opinion. Nova didn't manipulate her into agreeing with FFG.
• On the matter of Peanut's claim that Shannon was jealous of the "mad love" Nova was getting and was setting her up to fail: NOVA says she didn't know the lore behind FFG! Nova knew she said fucked up shit, but she can agree with one thing you say without agreeing with everything you say.
• SHANNON: she set up Nova and Ron with each other because she knew they could agree to disagree but that's not what happened.
• NOVA: They disagreed about stuff but it wasn't stuff she was crazy about. She has reputation for being objective and nuanced and when that needed to be extended to her it wasn't.
SHANNON
• She innocently wanted to hang out with her subscribers and didn't know who FFG was or what happened with Nova and Ron on Twitter. Nova didn't know Shannon thought Peanut was being a hypocrite. She never would have put Nova in the spot to be uncomfortable about that because they were all kind of cordial with each other back then. Peanut is taking it out on Nova and is too much of a pussy to show up and talk to them on this livestream. They won't man or woman up and talk to their faces, they'll only host lives on their platforms where they can profit off of their responses.
• Peanut said as soon as things got tough for her on YT, Shannon couldn't take it and ran. Shannon has been on YT forever; she left the Shaquanna Jefferson channel because she didn't want the responsibility of it. She's a lazy bitch and when you make money off your channel you feel an obligation to provide content; when she didn't want to live up to that obligation anymore she axed the channel. She made the new channel a couple of days later and, when KF linked it, she started making content again after her channel subs blew up. She deactivated her comments because Farmers were saying sexual things about her father and nephew and she didn't want to deal with that.
• SHANNON's usual obsession with being the first innovator to participate in this bullshit rears its head: "I was the first! The only one to have the balls to call them out!" Peanut! Ron! I know you're listening. You have something to say, say it. I walked away from my biological father 11 years ago; if I don't own him shit, I don't owe you shit. (Meanwhile, earlier, Shannon excoriated the few people who gave the stream thumbs down for not getting in chat and speaking their mind. Maybe those thumbs down weren't Peanut and NEGZ and viewers don't owe YOU shit either, Shannon — ever think of that?)
• She has no problem with NEGZ and doesn't know why he talks shit about her. She still says he's a good man, not a racist. Trolling with racial issues is gross but that's his shtick as a troll. She tells Nova every day "I still fuck with Ron" because she appreciate anyone who's going to "come on here" and be such a pig and own it.
BOTH
• NOVA: The only issue she has with Peanut is how things are being misrepresented. She doesn't care if Peanut is hypocritical. We're all biased to some degree.
• SHANNON: I'm a hypocrite but I own it! How dare Peanut call her toxic after Shannon forgave her calling her a racist? (Oh, IDK: maybe Peanut doesn't owe you shit just because you forgave her? KeEp ThAt SaMe EnErGy)
• NOVA: "I have never called NEGZ a racist."
• SHANNON: If the chat called you racist, that's her chat!
• NOVA: Realizes that the internet is forever, so is very slow on calling someone a racist. She feels this way about Chantal as well. She's not going to be the person to disparage someone that way.
• SHANNON: The chat wouldn't let it go! NEGZ has a problem with the chat, not Nova and me! Shannon's never called NEGZ a racist nor would she platform someone who disrespected his son.
• NOVA: Her whole thing was reviewing people's reactions. If FFG did reactions, she was going to review them. It was a performance evaluation. Nova says she'll consider making the live public again if she can clip it down, but it's not worth it because people are going to believe what they believe.
• SHANNON: If NEGZ had sniped more than the beginning he would have seen what they really said.
• SHANNON: Fedora won't come on to clear her name because she's clout chasing. (Objectively, this is the worst read on Fedora, a true believer, that I've heard). If there was a mistake because of her dementia then she just shouldn't talk about things she doesn't remember well.
• NOVA: If I'm coming to you and saying this is wrong, have a conversation and don't just call me an SJW. Don't say it was only two minutes in your stream; you lied about something you didn't know about. You ran with this stupid ass narrative that's going around. I never had an issue with Fedora.
• SHANNON: They have an issue with me and they're taking it out on you.
• NOVA: People say "You always knew about NEGZ' politics" --- well, everyone always knew about mine too! Why am I suddenly an SJW libtard?
• SHANNON: "We're real women, they're obviously never going to be on our level."
That chat prompts this:
• SHANNON: They tokenize Nova: they needed a brown one in their community and a black one in their community! It's a proven fact that people tokenize people all the time! All the people surrounding them are all white people who think the same way, they needed that one person to be different and then they treated Nova like she was disposable. You're more than your politics, I don't chose friends based on politics!
• NOVA: Anyone who speaks to me on a regular basis, how often do I bring up politics?
• SHANNON: You don't! You retweet something and everyone jumps down your throats about it! Shannon goes on to say she wants to be schooled and the Antis pretend they do but they don't!
• NOVA: it's just a way to delegitimize the very real issues that I brought up.
• SHANNON: When you have a group of white people who agree about one thing they have to seek out the person to make it seem more diverse. That's the way it works. Shane was right about them tokenizing the Sparks on Demand girl
• NOVA: Tokenizing gets a bad rap but the reality is that pointing out someone is getting tokenized is a comment on the community not the person being tokenized.
