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Ginger Piglet said:
I have a case where I have four clients and they are being sued by some other person. Getting anywhere with them is an uphill struggle. They spend ages arguing with each other and countermanding their instructions to me, and taking everything the opposition says in every way personally, and they think that any form of co-operation to try to narrow issues or otherwise keep costs down is somehow surrendering or compromising our position.

I recently after Herculean efforts got the settlement of that case over the line.

It was still probably easier than representing CWC would be. I mean, does Chris even register that this is real on any level?
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I think there may - may - be a developing issue around Chris’ capacity to instruct his lawyer.

This happened to me once in a civil case. The parents were absolutely entitled to have their views made known in proceedings, but the pair of them had some legitimately delusional beliefs and despite all my efforts - and those of a colleague I roped in - it was just not possible to get them to understand the nature of the proceedings, and the consequences of the instructions they were hell bent on giving me.

They behaved like the actual sub-70 IQ retards they were in court. The dad turned up in a “WHOS YOUR DADDY” t shirt every time - unwashed between appearances - and a pound shop Superman cape with FATHERS 4 JUSTICE scrawled on it on one occasion. The mother continually insisted that the child had not suffered catastrophic brain damage during her unassisted birth because she was being told what to do by a literal angel midwife. They repeatedly told anyone who would listen that they were actively attempting to conceive a further child throughout the proceedings for the contested freeing for adoption and that they would “keep having babies until we get to keep one”.

Getting out of representing them was a fucking procedural nightmare involving guardians ad litem and all sorts. But you cannot in good faith continue to take instructions from people who literally do not, cannot, understand the ramifications of what they are telling you to do, and you cannot just start instructing yourself. I have no idea whatsoever what the VA law of criminal procedure is relating to a client who is competent to stand trial but not competent to assist in their own defence.

But like you, I am starting to form the impression that Chris is not fully grasping the depth of the (potential) shit he is in here.
 
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Fareal said:
I think there may - may - be a developing issue around Chris’ capacity to instruct his lawyer.

This happened to me once in a civil case. The parents were absolutely entitled to have their views made known in proceedings, but the pair of them had some legitimately delusional beliefs and despite all my efforts - and those of a colleague I roped in - it was just not possible to get them to understand the nature of the proceedings, and the consequences of the instructions they were hell bent on giving me.

They behaved like the actual sub-70 IQ retards they were in court. The dad turned up in a “WHOS YOUR DADDY” t shirt every time - unwashed between appearances - and a pound shop Superman cape with FATHERS 4 JUSTICE scrawled on it on one occasion. The mother continually insisted that the child had not suffered catastrophic brain damage during her unassisted birth because she was being told what to do by a literal angel midwife. They repeatedly told anyone who would listen that they were actively attempting to conceive a further child throughout the proceedings for the contested freeing for adoption and that they would “keep having babies until we get to keep one”.

Getting out of representing them was a fucking procedural nightmare involving guardians ad litem and all sorts. But you cannot in good faith continue to take instructions from people who literally do not, cannot, understand the ramifications of what they are telling you to do, and you cannot just start instructing yourself. I have no idea whatsoever what the VA law of criminal procedure is relating to a client who is competent to stand trial but not competent to assist in their own defence.

But like you, I am starting to form the impression that Chris is not fully grasping the depth of the (potential) shit he is in here.
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He never will. And I hate to say it, but this could be his mother has been molesting him since he was a child. This is a possibility.
 
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Killowaaa said:
I feel for the DA's office and the state of Virginia as a whole, the last thing anyone involved wants is this shit to hit the main main stream imagine chris being broadcast Nationwide on a Fox news segment or some shit... but if this does blow up the normies are in for a treat
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Tucker: "Tonight we will be talking about a court case happening in Virginia, involving famed transgender activist Christine Westin Chandler, better known by the online moniker of "Chris-Chan..."

Fuck why can I picture it so clearly?
 
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And I don't think Chris has anyone left to help him with bail or bond or whatever. His uncle and aunt withdrew their invitation for him to stay at their house once they found out once he'd done, Cole isn't going to dirty his hands, Null won't create a fundraiser for him.... I can't think of a single person on Earth who'd offer to help him, even to put money for the canteen on his account, except maybe a wild trans rights group. He's well & truly burnt his bridges.
 
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Being ruled incompetent to stand trial isn't a get out of jail free card. Incompetent to stand trial is a determination that the defendant is incapable of understanding the charges against them.

The default response to an incompetency ruling is to attempt to cure the defendant, either through counseling, medication, or some combination of the two. The defendant then stands trial once a determination has been made that they are now competent.

Chris is a high functioning autistic male. He knows that incest is considered wrong. I believe he is competent to stand trial, regardless if he thinks a dimensional merge will cause him to be freed from his oppressors.
 
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Does this sound familiar?
Fareal said:
I think there may - may - be a developing issue around Chris’ capacity to instruct his lawyer.

This happened to me once in a civil case. The parents were absolutely entitled to have their views made known in proceedings, but the pair of them had some legitimately delusional beliefs and despite all my efforts - and those of a colleague I roped in - it was just not possible to get them to understand the nature of the proceedings, and the consequences of the instructions they were hell bent on giving me.

They behaved like the actual sub-70 IQ retards they were in court. The dad turned up in a “WHOS YOUR DADDY” t shirt every time - unwashed between appearances - and a pound shop Superman cape with FATHERS 4 JUSTICE scrawled on it on one occasion. The mother continually insisted that the child had not suffered catastrophic brain damage during her unassisted birth because she was being told what to do by a literal angel midwife. They repeatedly told anyone who would listen that they were actively attempting to conceive a further child throughout the proceedings for the contested freeing for adoption and that they would “keep having babies until we get to keep one”.

Getting out of representing them was a fucking procedural nightmare involving guardians ad litem and all sorts. But you cannot in good faith continue to take instructions from people who literally do not, cannot, understand the ramifications of what they are telling you to do, and you cannot just start instructing yourself. I have no idea whatsoever what the VA law of criminal procedure is relating to a client who is competent to stand trial but not competent to assist in their own defence.

But like you, I am starting to form the impression that Chris is not fully grasping the depth of the (potential) shit he is in here.
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this is why I’m pretty sure that he is going to spend the rest of his life in a mental institution despite people thinking he is actually a normal person pretending to be retarded, it’s very clear that the only solution is going to be his commitment.
 
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