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Layperson, actually. I’m a mechanic. IRL, I work on great big diesel locomotive engines adapted for the marine application, and all their attendant equipment like pumps, hydraulics, bearings, etc.

I did spend a long, long time on my COVID digging, and here’s what I’ve found out.

COVID-19 triggers the rapid calcification of infected cells while also suppressing the body’s own antioxidant activity. If a biology major familiar with redox activity in the body heard that, they’d understand the implications immediately. Reactive oxygen species start taking over, producing oxidized lipids that create a vicious cycle of inflammation. This is something you find in autoimmune diseases like Lupus. In extreme, acute cases, the word for this process in the medical literature is literally sepsis.


What do COVID patients consistently have? They’ve got low nitric oxide, autoantibodies against their own lipids, and ferroptosis signatures in their tissues. All of these are signs of extreme oxidative stress. What substances are repeatedly fingered as possible treatments for COVID-19? Vitamin D, NAC, Selenium, Turmeric and the like. All of those are powerful antioxidants. Vitamin D pumps calcium out of cells, NAC raises and sustains glutathione levels which work alongside selenium to act as substrates for antioxidant enzymes, and curcumin in turmeric is a powerful Nrf2 activator and promoted antioxidant enzyme activity in the body.

To understand what end-stage COVID-19 is all about, you have to know about OSEs. Oxidation-specific epitopes.



The danger signals given off by dying cells, known as DAMPs, actually feed into more inflammation and oxidative stress. The reason why this was so familiar to me is because you see this in mechanical engineering, too. It’s literally a feedback loop. Feedback happens in mechanical systems all the time. People have crashed small aircraft because of PIO, pilot-induced oscillations. That’s where your body and your hand accelerate due to the movements of the aircraft, and you involuntarily move the stick, creating more oscillations that move your hands even more, et cetera. Feedback in hydraulic systems creates chatter and all kinds of problems. Runaway molecular feedback systems in human and animal bodies can create severe inflammation that damages tissues.

By the way, metal objects and magnets are indeed bizarrely sticking to vaccinated people’s shoulders, and now, even their faces:




Keys and magnets are sticking to people’s sinuses in their cheeks and foreheads. Why? Because they put fucking graphene in all this shit without telling us.




Why do you think they told people not to wear masks at the start? They had to get rid of the stocks of graphene-free masks and replace them with tainted ones.

Don’t wear the goddamn masks or take the vaccine. I have no fucking idea why they would want to put graphene in people’s bodies, but it can’t be anything good. Animal studies show that graphene is a potent anxiolytic. In other words, it inactivates their fear response. I can imagine nothing more useful for the powers-that-be than to turn all the world’s populists and nationalists demonstrating in the streets with homemade signs into satiated little zombies that fear absolutely nothing about unregulated immigration and their declining living conditions.


This is literally the plot of Brave New World. Getting people accustomed to tyranny by altering their biochemistry so they don’t feel anxiety, anger, distrust, or fear is 100% Huxleyan dystopia.
I appreciate that you always source your claims out, most of us can't be fucked but it gives a bit more weight to what your saying. I'm not a science guy, so some of the things you say sound plausible, however, I think that a lot of it is too tin-foil hat for even my tastes, and I like to think of myself as a pretty open minded guy when it comes to this sort of thing. To pull something like this off there would really have to be a cabal of powerful people all dedicating every resource they have towards the singular goal of enslaving every person in the world.

I could probably believe that there are some corpo fucks trying to cash in on this disaster and world governments are covering each other's ass over a global overreaction that basically destroyed the world economy. That seems more in line with human nature to me, but tainting masks and vaccines with graphene to chemically alter everyone's behavior? That's kinda going too far into fictional territory, the amount of coordination to pull that off makes the stealing 2020 election look like child's play.

But hey, if that ends up being what's actually happening, then shit man I'll probably get into religion again cause clearly Satan himself is running the show and only Christ can save us from this insanity.
 
How can both of these be true? In the US nearly 100% of hospitalizations are unvaxxed, but in countries with high vaccination rates the opposite is shown.

In Israel almost all hospitalizations are of the vaccinated. Also seeing similar rates of hospitalization in the UK and other countries that are highly vaccinated.

But here in the US I found an endless number of news stories with a quick search for "unvaccinated being hospitalized". this one in particular stood out because of the claims that 100% of patients are unvaccinated. Maybe it's because smaller town, or just more brazen lying?

100 percent of COVID-19 hospitalizations at Monument Health have been people who are unvaccinated.

Another local story with similar claims out of South Carolina, this one says that it's hard to find a single patient in the ICU that's been fully vaccinated.
 
Belgium - in a old people's home, 20 elderly and about 6 members of personnel have been infected with a quite unknown variant: a Colombian variant.
It is believed that the virus came in via a visitor or personnel. Inportant to note, 7 of the 20 have already died. The virus broke out on a ward for demented patients (they wander around often and infect their neighbours). The whole home is in quarantine. All of them were vaccinated.
The cracks are showing... the vaccine is obviously not strong enough against other variants and are basically useless.
What are they gonna do now. Meemaw and pops are still dying even if vaccinated. New vaccines on the way? Are we gonna need a billion booster shots to make this work? Who's gonna keep paying for all these (almost mandatory) vaccines...

Next time in wu-flu News.
The vaccine effect is too narrow, spike protein only. The spike is the most mutable part of the virus, no immunity is provided against the nucleocapsid, which occurs with exposure to wild virus. Coronaviruses have evolved spike to infect mammalian cells, this part of the virus adapts rapidly compared to the nucleocapsid which does not change at all. Because of this long lasting T-cell immunity can ONLY develop through natural infection and cannot be achieved through vaccination with spike antibodies.

The drug companies know this, they have been researching coronavirus vaccines for decades and have always hit this dead end. But with the Covid outbreak and the potential to earn hundreds of billions something had to be cooked up that would a) look convincing at least in the short run and b) wouldn't kill too many people.

A vaccine that produces antibodies against part of the spike was ideal. It was tech that was ready to go, the vaccines were developed literally days after the first genomic sequencing of Covid. It was also guaranteed to look good in early trials, an impatient world wouldn't wait years for a vaccine, they wanted it NOW, which was great for the pharma researchers. They could show neutralizing spike antibodies, and could claim some efficacy via symptom alleviation in the vaccinated (which is true). By excluding the asymptomatic from their reporting, which they did, they could even claim their '95%' efficacy in reducing transmission which was and remains a lie.

Will more deadly strains develop when challenged by the vaccines? Don't know but there's no sign of it so far. Delta is markedly less virulent than other variants. Most likely the vaccines are the equivalent of 19th century snake oil, not good for you, might even poison you, definitely won't do shit to cure you, but they'll make their salesman money and we all love capitalism so who's complaining?
 
How can both of these be true? In the US nearly 100% of hospitalizations are unvaxxed, but in countries with high vaccination rates the opposite is shown.

In Israel almost all hospitalizations are of the vaccinated. Also seeing similar rates of hospitalization in the UK and other countries that are highly vaccinated.

But here in the US I found an endless number of news stories with a quick search for "unvaccinated being hospitalized". this one in particular stood out because of the claims that 100% of patients are unvaccinated. Maybe it's because smaller town, or just more brazen lying?



Another local story with similar claims out of South Carolina, this one says that it's hard to find a single patient in the ICU that's been fully vaccinated.
They're both bullshit manipulation tactics. In "low" vaccination rate countries or areas it is intended to get the goys to take their medicine and in high vaccination rate countries or areas it is intended to get the goys to take more medicine.
 
I appreciate that you always source your claims out, most of us can't be fucked but it gives a bit more weight to what your saying. I'm not a science guy, so some of the things you say sound plausible, however, I think that a lot of it is too tin-foil hat for even my tastes, and I like to think of myself as a pretty open minded guy when it comes to this sort of thing. To pull something like this off there would really have to be a cabal of powerful people all dedicating every resource they have towards the singular goal of enslaving every person in the world.

I could probably believe that there are some corpo fucks trying to cash in on this disaster and world governments are covering each other's ass over a global overreaction that basically destroyed the world economy. That seems more in line with human nature to me, but tainting masks and vaccines with graphene to chemically alter everyone's behavior? That's kinda going too far into fictional territory, the amount of coordination to pull that off makes the stealing 2020 election look like child's play.

But hey, if that ends up being what's actually happening, then shit man I'll probably get into religion again cause clearly Satan himself is running the show and only Christ can save us from this insanity.
The people responsible for this have literally unlimited money. As in, they have embezzled or forged more money than the GDP of all the world’s countries combined.



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Layperson, actually. I’m a mechanic. IRL, I work on great big diesel locomotive engines adapted for the marine application, and all their attendant equipment like pumps, hydraulics, bearings, etc.

I did spend a long, long time on my COVID digging, and here’s what I’ve found out.

COVID-19 triggers the rapid calcification of infected cells while also suppressing the body’s own antioxidant activity. If a biology major familiar with redox activity in the body heard that, they’d understand the implications immediately. Reactive oxygen species start taking over, producing oxidized lipids that create a vicious cycle of inflammation. This is something you find in autoimmune diseases like Lupus. In extreme, acute cases, the word for this process in the medical literature is literally sepsis.


What do COVID patients consistently have? They’ve got low nitric oxide, autoantibodies against their own lipids, and ferroptosis signatures in their tissues. All of these are signs of extreme oxidative stress. What substances are repeatedly fingered as possible treatments for COVID-19? Vitamin D, NAC, Selenium, Turmeric and the like. All of those are powerful antioxidants. Vitamin D pumps calcium out of cells, NAC raises and sustains glutathione levels which work alongside selenium to act as substrates for antioxidant enzymes, and curcumin in turmeric is a powerful Nrf2 activator and promoted antioxidant enzyme activity in the body.

To understand what end-stage COVID-19 is all about, you have to know about OSEs. Oxidation-specific epitopes.



The danger signals given off by dying cells, known as DAMPs, actually feed into more inflammation and oxidative stress. The reason why this was so familiar to me is because you see this in mechanical engineering, too. It’s literally a feedback loop. Feedback happens in mechanical systems all the time. People have crashed small aircraft because of PIO, pilot-induced oscillations. That’s where your body and your hand accelerate due to the movements of the aircraft, and you involuntarily move the stick, creating more oscillations that move your hands even more, et cetera. Feedback in hydraulic systems creates chatter and all kinds of problems. Runaway molecular feedback systems in human and animal bodies can create severe inflammation that damages tissues.

By the way, metal objects and magnets are indeed bizarrely sticking to vaccinated people’s shoulders, and now, even their faces:




Keys and magnets are sticking to people’s sinuses in their cheeks and foreheads. Why? Because they put fucking graphene in all this shit without telling us.




Why do you think they told people not to wear masks at the start? They had to get rid of the stocks of graphene-free masks and replace them with tainted ones.

Don’t wear the goddamn masks or take the vaccine. I have no fucking idea why they would want to put graphene in people’s bodies, but it can’t be anything good. Animal studies show that graphene is a potent anxiolytic. In other words, it inactivates their fear response. I can imagine nothing more useful for the powers-that-be than to turn all the world’s populists and nationalists demonstrating in the streets with homemade signs into satiated little zombies that fear absolutely nothing about unregulated immigration and their declining living conditions.


This is literally the plot of Brave New World. Getting people accustomed to tyranny by altering their biochemistry so they don’t feel anxiety, anger, distrust, or fear is 100% Huxleyan dystopia.
Think your on to something with the graphene, I couldn't get any relevant info without limiting the search engine to results before 2019. Graphene is very magnetic, and I couldn't hand wave the game show footage because they were demonstrating it with multiple people at many different angles.
 
I agree with both @Drain Todger and @Roybertitos. The base information about inflammation and oxidative stress is good but I don't know about the rest. Everything regarding motivation, who is behind what decisions, etc is just speculation. I try to stick to just the facts of COVID at the moment. We won't know the reality of what actually went on in governments worldwide for a while, possibly not until we are all long dead.
 
The vaccine effect is too narrow, spike protein only. The spike is the most mutable part of the virus, no immunity is provided against the nucleocapsid, which occurs with exposure to wild virus. Coronaviruses have evolved spike to infect mammalian cells, this part of the virus adapts rapidly compared to the nucleocapsid which does not change at all. Because of this long lasting T-cell immunity can ONLY develop through natural infection and cannot be achieved through vaccination with spike antibodies.

The drug companies know this, they have been researching coronavirus vaccines for decades and have always hit this dead end. But with the Covid outbreak and the potential to earn hundreds of billions something had to be cooked up that would a) look convincing at least in the short run and b) wouldn't kill too many people.

A vaccine that produces antibodies against part of the spike was ideal. It was tech that was ready to go, the vaccines were developed literally days after the first genomic sequencing of Covid. It was also guaranteed to look good in early trials, an impatient world wouldn't wait years for a vaccine, they wanted it NOW, which was great for the pharma researchers. They could show neutralizing spike antibodies, and could claim some efficacy via symptom alleviation in the vaccinated (which is true). By excluding the asymptomatic from their reporting, which they did, they could even claim their '95%' efficacy in reducing transmission which was and remains a lie.

Will more deadly strains develop when challenged by the vaccines? Don't know but there's no sign of it so far. Delta is markedly less virulent than other variants. Most likely the vaccines are the equivalent of 19th century snake oil, not good for you, might even poison you, definitely won't do shit to cure you, but they'll make their salesman money and we all love capitalism so who's complaining?
That’s only true if the vaccines aren’t causing ADE, which they very well may be, which means the vaccinated would end up with a much higher viral load than the unvaccinated. This happened a few years ago with Dengvaxia in the Philippines. It’s not a new phenomenon for vaccines to fail and cause sensitization and vaccine-enhanced illness.



The excitement and enthusiasm for a COVID-19 vaccine by the end of 2020 is both palpable and understandable. We all hope for a rapid end to the pandemic and an effective vaccine would be a surefire solution. But there are risks that come with a fast-tracked vaccine delivered end of this year, not the least of which are the risks related to the safety of the vaccine itself.

Telescoping testing timelines and approvals may expose all of us to unnecessary dangers related to the vaccine. While preclinical trials to evaluate the potential safety and efficacy of vaccine candidates are likely to include tens of thousands of patients, it is still unclear whether that number will be large enough and a trial will last long enough to evaluate safety for a drug that would be administered to so many. The US alone plans to vaccinate hundreds of millions of people with the first successful candidate. One serious adverse event per thousand of a vaccine given to 100 million people means harm to 100,000 otherwise healthy people.

Aside from questions of safety that attend any vaccine, there are good reasons to be especially cautious for COVID-19. Some vaccines worsen the consequences of infection rather than protect, a phenomenon called antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). ADE has been observed in previous attempts to develop coronavirus vaccines. To add to the concern, antibodies typical of ADE are present in the blood of some COVID-19 patients. Such concerns are real. As recently as 2016, Dengavxia, intended to protect children from the dengue virus, increased hospitalizations for children who received the vaccine.
 
Will more deadly strains develop when challenged by the vaccines? Don't know but there's no sign of it so far. Delta is markedly less virulent than other variants. Most likely the vaccines are the equivalent of 19th century snake oil, not good for you, might even poison you, definitely won't do shit to cure you, but they'll make their salesman money and we all love capitalism so who's complaining?
Delta is the Indian variant that was first detected in December 2020, long before the majority were vaccinated anywhere. It was born out of cramped slums where people drink from the same river they dispose of corpses in, in that kind of environment it didn't need to be any more severe to spread.
 
The one thing they could suggest that would give everyone -- even the deplorable unvaccinated, mask refusers -- a better shot at surviving covid is the one thing they never mention: diet and exercise. Stop eating processed crap, consume a normal amount of healthy foods, and get more exercise. Those changes are guaranteed to help boost your chances at survival.

Staying indoors, sedentary on the couch binging on food and Netflix is the exact thing you don't want to be doing in a pandemic. Especially one that has been proven to be more deadly for obese people.

Even if it didn't, it would still be a healthier way to deal with covid than just boredom eating and mindless Amazon consumerism.
 
They're trying to run two different conflicting scams at once. On one hand, 100% of hospitalizations are the unvaxxed to pressure you no good science-denying Trump supporters to get your shots. On the other hand, 74% of the hospitalized in Massachusetts are vaxxed because COVID is still super super dangerous and it's not over and you need to put your masks back on and isolate every time a new variant appears.

This is why a lot of people don't give a fuck anymore.

The one thing they could suggest that would give everyone -- even the deplorable unvaccinated, mask refusers -- a better shot at surviving covid is the one thing they never mention: diet and exercise. Stop eating processed crap, consume a normal amount of healthy foods, and get more exercise. Those changes are guaranteed to help boost your chances at survival.

Staying indoors, sedentary on the couch binging on food and Netflix is the exact thing you don't want to be doing in a pandemic. Especially one that has been proven to be more deadly for obese people.

Even if it didn't, it would still be a healthier way to deal with covid than just boredom eating and mindless Amazon consumerism.
This would conflict with their intentions of consuming more and giving Pfizer money.

Notice how ANY preventitive measure is instantly declared a hoax because "it's not a cure."
 
TBF, veterinary drugs can be less pure than those designed for human consumption. Different safety standards. I'd recommend veterinary ivermectin for IM injections instead of a paste, purity standarts for injection solutions are generally higher.
IM solution has nothing except ivermectin, water, antioxidant and some preservatives in it. And it's liquid, so it's easy to measure required amount with syringe. You just drink it instead of injecting.
Also for topical keep in mind if the animal has a thicker hide.
 
I was just told that my grandmother has had a stroke and is in the hospital. I can't visit because apparently due to Covid restrictions only two people can visit for the duration of her stay in the hospital. Not two at a time, the same two total people, for the entire time she's there. And according to my mother there's no treatment at this stage and they're basically just keeping her comfortable until the inevitable. So grandma's on her literal deathbed and I can't see her one last time because of this bullshit.
 
They're trying to run two different conflicting scams at once.

Create as much cognitive dissonance in the populace as you can, AKA, gaslighting. Who gives a fuck if you just make it up as you go along and move the goalposts at every corner turn. Rinse, repeat, profit.


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Even old based badass Duterto is getting in on the act and following his orders -


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California to mandate COVID-19 vaccines for health workers​

California will require all of its roughly 2.2 million health care and long term care workers to be fully vaccinated against the coronavirus by Sept. 30



Ooh, look, the exact same date as for us in the UK with vaxx passports becoming compulsory in nightclubs and at other 'events'.


United Airlines will require all 67,000 U.S. employees to get vaccinated — or risk termination​

United’s requirement is one of the strictest vaccine mandates from a U.S. company.



One of the strictest, for now. Where they lead, others will follow.

Rinse, repeat, profit.
 
That’s only true if the vaccines aren’t causing ADE, which they very well may be, which means the vaccinated would end up with a much higher viral load than the unvaccinated. This happened a few years ago with Dengvaxia in the Philippines. It’s not a new phenomenon for vaccines to fail and cause sensitization and vaccine-enhanced illness.



One or two weeks ago the CDC said that there are rare cases where vaccinated people have a very high viral load of the Delta variant.
 
Im taking a break from Covid stuff but today i had to check the SAGE data to see if the trend was still going how i thought it was.

This is bad. This is further confirming Antibody dependent enhancement happening for the Astrazeneca vaccine..I have been saying watch this data for 60 days now it could be ADE..i think we can confirm that is ADE at this point as the unvaccinated numbers are almost completely unaffected after 3 updates.

Jabbers will need boosters to keep this number down. The unvaccinated need not worry...Every person who took this vaccine is going to need more and more effective booster shots. Do everything you can to avoid the vaccine as your life actually depends on it. I suspect the Government knows this and is trying to rope 100% of the population into scam to cover for the mistake

Unvaxxed 151000 cases and 253 deaths. So that is what? .0014%? That is LOWER than Influenza (Issues of Long covid aside)

2xvaxxed 47000 cases and 402 deaths.


With so much of the population Jabbed and this data going all the way back to January before anyone got jabbed you have to wonder if almost ALL of the hospitalizations currently are vaccinated.





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And of course the source of this data, please spread this far and wide please as its irrefutable and an official government source and let the truth get out. You are saving lives by letting people know that vaccination is a dead end at best...at worst its some sort of government effort to control people or cash in through back channels.


I'm tired bros...I really am but this is no longer about me so i must keep going....because we are headed toward some weird medical totalitarian state. And they are coming for Children soon.
 
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402/47008 = 0.00855
253/151054= 0.00167
0.00855 / 0.00167 = 5.12


That is the increased risk from jabbing

Not saying these results will hold true for Pfizer and what not but UK has a pretty big problem on its hands as Delta wont be the last version of Coof
 
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Fuck, thought bongistan was cucked, but fucking Oz is just downright sinister.

Check out this cunt's rhetoric - (timestamped at 4:38)

'YOU'VE BEEN WARNED' | 1000 cops & troops to enforce NSW COVID restrictions at Sydney protest​




The whole demeanour of these cunts is beyond authoritarian. It's downright fascist. Or communist. Insert your 'ism or schism here. Text book definition of bullying. Just relentless. It's voluntary ok, so you better do it, and if you don't then it won't be voluntary any more. Circular twisted logic. A case in point -

NSW premier won’t speculate on lockdown’s end but says vaccination is key to ‘freedoms’​

Gladys Berejiklian rejects suggestions schools will not return to face-to-face learning by end of the year as state records 207 new coronavirus cases




The New South Wales premier, Gladys Berejiklian, has refused to speculate on whether the state will emerge from lockdown by the end of August and has instead switched her rhetoric to achieving sufficient vaccination rates to loosen restrictions.

refused to speculate...


Coz, like, there was just a fucking long list of journalists pressing her, forcing her to speculate, but you know, she like, refused! Strewth all mighty! Christ on a cracker. And fuck me dead!

These people have no shame.

...rhetoric to achieving sufficient vaccination rates to loosen restrictions.

So get vaxxed or get locked down. Simple choice. Not that we are coercing you or anything. Oh no, we would never do that. Ever.

Anyway, looks like those protests still went ahead.










So it looks like a directive has gone out. End of September. More lockdowns. Return to mandatory masking. Vaxx passports required for certain venues and events, to be slowly/quickly rolled out everywhere after that.

This time next year, they will be knocking on peoples' doors and dragging them out on to the street to violate their personal sovereignty in public. And it will be all their fault for not getting vaxxed. Uh uh. And those holding you down will think it's funny.

If you tolerate this, then your children will be next...
 
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